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Post by Veritas on Jun 25, 2024 21:10:29 GMT
Apparently it goes to disciplinary record in the group then qualification ranking. Cheers. Any idea on my first question? One of the 3rd place teams we won't know who until after all the group games
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jun 25, 2024 21:10:39 GMT
Just done a quick check. We're the joint lowest scoring group winners in the Euros ever.
Along with....England, 2021.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:10:44 GMT
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Post by yellowsnowman on Jun 25, 2024 21:10:44 GMT
Just another poor performance. Looked better when we introduced palmer, gordon and mainoo.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:11:01 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jun 25, 2024 21:11:01 GMT
I'm feeling way more positive after that second half. How do we fit palmer into the team though? I think Saka been one of our better plays in all 3 games You are easily pleased
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Jun 25, 2024 21:11:32 GMT
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Post by peterpan1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:11:32 GMT
We as Stoke fans should know more than anyone how difficult it is to break down a well drilled defensive line. That's what the twat is paid 5mill a year for.....to have answers to fucking questions like this !
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:11:57 GMT
Unless Southgate lets the handbrake off we’re sadly going nowhere but back to blighty
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Jun 25, 2024 21:12:07 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 21:12:07 GMT
Have the bitter Irish lads gone to bed now it hasn't gone to plan?
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jun 25, 2024 21:12:46 GMT
For me Foden ruined that game for England.
He clearly doesn't like playing on the left and doesn't offer any width
He needs to play in the middle or not at all.
2 proper wingers on at all times please.
It's a hard watch with England and I don't think we are growing into the tournament at all. We are too easy to play against with our slow pace
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Post by kustokie on Jun 25, 2024 21:12:48 GMT
We as Stoke fans should know more than anyone how difficult it is to break down a well drilled defensive line. That's what the twat is paid 5mill a year for.....to have answers to fucking questions like this ! He doesn’t look capable of motivating the players.
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jun 25, 2024 21:12:56 GMT
Why that looks terrible, and you've not even included Palmer or Gordon. He should make at least 4 changes, but he won't. I hope it's more than just bringing Gallagher in. I'd be tempted to rest Bellingham, stick Foden at 10 and put Gordon or Palmer on the left. I'd play Watkins instead of Kane too, or even Toney to see what he can do. Still laughing Gary ?... still thinking it was a great idea to put another 90 minutes into the jaded legs of that lot ? Yes I am still laughing at your proposed side. He should have mixed it up with some of the tried and tested plus the likes of Palmer, Gordon etc. It wasn’t good but there’s no way he was ever making 11 changes as that wouldn’t tell us anything anyway, he would never pick it again.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:13:00 GMT
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Post by danceswithclams on Jun 25, 2024 21:13:00 GMT
We could have played all night and not scored. Completely bereft of any ideas as to how to break teams down. Buck stops with the manager. Any half decent coach would have won at least one major tournament with this lot by now. Not sure about the last line Sean fucking Dyche would have won the Euro final against Italy.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:13:39 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Jun 25, 2024 21:13:39 GMT
We as Stoke fans should know more than anyone how difficult it is to break down a well drilled defensive line. That's what the twat is paid 5mill a year for.....to have answers to fucking questions like this ! Wenger, Hall of fame premier league manger, didn't have too many answers down here back in the day.
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Post by redstriper on Jun 25, 2024 21:13:59 GMT
That was gash and for that 90mins alone, Southgate should be castrated ! pretty difficult to castrate someone who clearly has no bollocks to start with!
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Post by Veritas on Jun 25, 2024 21:14:47 GMT
Another dreadful performance
However we are through to the knockout and this is where the tournament really starts. Loads of times we have seen sides struggle in the groups but then do really well in the knock out. Italy in World Cup 82 and England in both 86 and 90 immediately come to mind.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:15:05 GMT
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Post by peterpan1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:15:05 GMT
That was gash and for that 90mins alone, Southgate should be castrated ! pretty difficult to castrate someone who clearly has no bollocks to start with! Excellent point !
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 25, 2024 21:15:18 GMT
Surely there is no debate now he has to play Mainoo !!!!!! He played well but he shouldn’t start. Rice Bellingham Foden Just fucking do it
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Post by collo68 on Jun 25, 2024 21:15:36 GMT
Unless Southgate lets the handbrake off we’re sadly going nowhere but back to blighty Handbrake, more like 4 wheels clamped. He’s clueless. all the subs made a difference so he has to play Palmer, Mainoo next game as a minimum
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Jun 25, 2024 21:16:13 GMT
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Post by premieraj on Jun 25, 2024 21:16:13 GMT
Surely there is no debate now he has to play Mainoo !!!!!! He played well but he shouldn’t start. Rice Bellingham Foden Just fucking do it But he won’t will he!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2024 21:16:48 GMT
For me Foden ruined that game for England. He clearly doesn't like playing on the left and doesn't offer any width He needs to play in the middle or not at all. 2 proper wingers on at all times please. It's a hard watch with England and I don't think we are growing into the tournament at all. We are too easy to play against with our slow pace He basically did, Bellingham played on the left more than Foden did.
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Post by stokeson on Jun 25, 2024 21:16:59 GMT
Well its knockout's now so one way or another it will be the last we see of Southgate (unless you are a United fan....)
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Post by Deleted on Jun 25, 2024 21:17:32 GMT
Southgate thinks we were much improved.
He's gone full Nathan. Never go full Nathan.
Full on finger chewing and chest beating imminent...
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Jun 25, 2024 21:17:40 GMT
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Post by adri2008 on Jun 25, 2024 21:17:40 GMT
I'm feeling way more positive after that second half. How do we fit palmer into the team though? I think Saka been one of our better plays in all 3 games You are easily pleased Hardly. Thats something to build on though. Plenty of winning teams have looked like absolute shit early on which is to be expected really as they need to get on the same wavelength.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2024 21:17:47 GMT
Well its knockout's now so one way or another it will be the last we see of Southgate (unless you are a United fan....) Southend United?
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Jun 25, 2024 21:18:01 GMT
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Post by peterpan1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:18:01 GMT
Another dreadful performance However we are through to the knockout and thus is where the tournament really starts. Loads of times we have seen sides struggle in the groups but then do really well in the knock out. Italy in World Cup 82 and England in both 86 and 90 immediately come to mind. Both of which we didn't win incidentally!
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 25, 2024 21:18:17 GMT
As an unbiased "outsider" (US) Looked to me like more of a well-drilled defense that England ran up against. But that's just my impression.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2024 21:19:12 GMT
As an unbiased "outsider" (US) Looked to me like more of a well-drilled defense that England ran up against. But that's just my impression. Good teams find a way.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:19:16 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jun 25, 2024 21:19:16 GMT
Another dreadful performance However we are through to the knockout and thus is where the tournament really starts. Loads of times we have seen sides struggle in the groups but then do really well in the knock out. Italy in World Cup 82 and England in both 86 and 90 immediately come to mind. Both of which we didn't win incidentally! Italy did in 82 but the point was to show a significant change between group and knockout performance.
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Jun 25, 2024 21:20:26 GMT
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Post by peterpan1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:20:26 GMT
That's what the twat is paid 5mill a year for.....to have answers to fucking questions like this ! Wenger, Hall of fame premier league manger, didn't have too many answers down here back in the day. Won a lot more than this serial loser we have managing England !
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 25, 2024 21:20:28 GMT
As an unbiased "outsider" (US) Looked to me like more of a well-drilled defense that England ran up against. But that's just my impression. Good teams find a way. Oh I get that side of it too. You'd think with all the offensive firepower... but alas. Do think that Slovenia played as well as they could.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 25, 2024 21:20:31 GMT
“A lot of things I was really pleased with” Christ Almighty there’s no hope
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