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Post by sportsman on Jun 16, 2024 19:50:19 GMT
Left hand side is non existent. Foden not the same out there than in the middle, and Gordon would cause more problems but taking foden off would cause a stir in the media as we’re supposed to be building a team around him
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 16, 2024 19:51:09 GMT
Commentators waxing lyrical but one or two of these players need to seriously buck up. Alexander Arnold and Foden in particular the main culprits. Certainly needed half time to regroup. Bellingham has been fantastic and Guehi has done well.
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Post by questionable on Jun 16, 2024 19:51:19 GMT
[b Really, thought it was pretty pointless football other than the goal ofc.
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Post by hotterpotter on Jun 16, 2024 19:51:34 GMT
I'd hoped for more than three shots but I'll take winning 1-0 at half time.
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Jun 16, 2024 19:51:36 GMT
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Post by Han Solo on Jun 16, 2024 19:51:36 GMT
TAA is not a centre midfielder ffs. Keeps giving the ball away. Rice has been excellent though.
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Jun 16, 2024 19:51:39 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 16, 2024 19:51:39 GMT
Definite signs that Southgate has possibly worked out the Bellingham/Foden conundrum, having said that, Trent isn't offering a lot.
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Jun 16, 2024 19:52:15 GMT
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Post by GrahamHyde on Jun 16, 2024 19:52:15 GMT
[b Really, thought it was pretty pointless football other than the goal ofc. Largely controlled it, not given too much away and gone in at 1-0.
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Jun 16, 2024 19:52:25 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jun 16, 2024 19:52:25 GMT
Some players struggled to settle first half which can happen first game of the Tournament. Hopefully a better more settled second half and we create more because we haven't created that much
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 16, 2024 19:52:48 GMT
Kane’s lack of involvement is concerning so far
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Post by sportsman on Jun 16, 2024 19:53:20 GMT
Can somebody clear up if it’s Bellingham or bellernam? Every pundit has got me confused!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 16, 2024 19:53:39 GMT
Kane’s lack of involvement is concerning so far We really haven’t created much
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Jun 16, 2024 19:53:51 GMT
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Post by headsgoup on Jun 16, 2024 19:53:51 GMT
We should be going into this tournament expecting to win. Every big team has weaknesses this time around; it's a case of who has the most attacking talent. That's us, and by some distance too. We're favourites for a reason. That is a ridiculous statement, no country can go into a tournament expecting to win. Expecting to do well yes but so much can go wrong expecting to win puts too much pressure on the players and sets us up for a fall. It really isn't. I'll tell you what breeds nerves: the bizarre fetishization of failure that result in the BBC's coverage starting with a montage of everything that has gone wrong for 50 years. For some reason, we like to tell people not to get above their station. We've just spent 45 minutes stroking the ball around like 2010 Spain, drawing comparisons to some of the greatest ever to play the game in this thread. These players - with about 70 more goals between them than any other squad at the tournament - absolutely should be going there expecting to win it. What's the point otherwise? And what's the alternative? Beckham's red card, Southgate's penalty and Ronaldo winking? Why not change the tune?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jun 16, 2024 19:53:53 GMT
Eze for Trent works for me at this point.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 16, 2024 19:54:05 GMT
Commentators waxing lyrical but one or two of these players need to seriously buck up. Alexander Arnold and Foden in particular the main culprits. Certainly needed half time to regroup. Bellingham has been fantastic and Guehi has done well. It’s almost like they’re not playing where they should be.
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Jun 16, 2024 19:54:31 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jun 16, 2024 19:54:31 GMT
I would like to see Shaw instead of Trippier, it just feels like he is holding us back a little down the left
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Jun 16, 2024 19:54:49 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 16, 2024 19:54:49 GMT
Kane’s lack of involvement is concerning so far We really haven’t created much I agree mate but he’s hardly touched the ball so far
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Post by sportsman on Jun 16, 2024 19:54:49 GMT
Kane’s lack of involvement is concerning so far He normally drops deeper to get involved. Obviously been told to not drop deep but stay up high so skilful players have more space on the ball
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Jun 16, 2024 19:55:01 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 16, 2024 19:55:01 GMT
Commentators waxing lyrical but one or two of these players need to seriously buck up. Alexander Arnold and Foden in particular the main culprits. Certainly needed half time to regroup. Bellingham has been fantastic and Guehi has done well. It’s almost like they’re not playing where they should be. That’s not an excuse for lazy passing
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Post by bigvern on Jun 16, 2024 19:55:13 GMT
Can somebody clear up if it’s Bellingham or bellernam? Every pundit has got me confused! I think its bellynum
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jun 16, 2024 19:55:29 GMT
Kane’s lack of involvement is concerning so far He normally drops deeper to get involved. Obviously been told to not drop deep but stay up high so skilful players have more space on the ball Yes the way he’s been playing at Bayern apparently
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Jun 16, 2024 19:58:05 GMT
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Post by whatsashig on Jun 16, 2024 19:58:05 GMT
Kane’s lack of involvement is concerning so far It is there CBs physicality is ontop. It’s not the problem there is still signs of playing safe, recycling the ball all the way back when there are opportunity to just turn and face goal, just go for the jugular and impose our selves more, yeah first 20 was tight but at times there’s moments where you just see there’s an opportunity to turn but we go back to cb or goalie. Not brave enough at moment for me.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 16, 2024 19:58:30 GMT
It’s almost like they’re not playing where they should be. That’s not an excuse for lazy passing It is for TAA. He’s playing in an area where he will have less time than he’s used to. Your passing will suffer.
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Jun 16, 2024 19:58:39 GMT
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Post by spirered on Jun 16, 2024 19:58:39 GMT
I'm not too disappointed by TAA, a couple of loose passes, but all the good work is happening on the right
More disappointed with Trippier, Foden and Kane so far..
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Jun 16, 2024 20:00:23 GMT
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Post by Veritas on Jun 16, 2024 20:00:23 GMT
That is a ridiculous statement, no country can go into a tournament expecting to win. Expecting to do well yes but so much can go wrong expecting to win puts too much pressure on the players and sets us up for a fall. It really isn't. I'll tell you what breeds nerves: the bizarre fetishization of failure that result in the BBC's coverage starting with a montage of everything that has gone wrong for 50 years. For some reason, we like to tell people not to get above their station. We've just spent 45 minutes stroking the ball around like 2010 Spain, drawing comparisons to some of the greatest ever to play the game in this thread. These players - with about 70 more goals between them than any other squad at the tournament - absolutely should be going there expecting to win it. What's the point otherwise? And what's the alternative? Beckham's red card, Southgate's penalty and Ronaldo winking? Change the tune, man. So what montage should they show just a re-run of the 66 final!!
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jun 16, 2024 20:01:29 GMT
That’s not an excuse for lazy passing It is for TAA. He’s playing in an area where he will have less time than he’s used to. Your passing will suffer. The misplaced passes have come under zero pressure. Anyway, think I’d give it 20 and look at surering up the midfield and getting some pace on the left
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Jun 16, 2024 20:04:02 GMT
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Post by sportsman on Jun 16, 2024 20:04:02 GMT
Keep it how it is, let them try chase the ball with foden, Bellingham etc then let Gordon run at the last 20 when their defence is leggy
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Jun 16, 2024 20:04:13 GMT
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Post by questionable on Jun 16, 2024 20:04:13 GMT
It is for TAA. He’s playing in an area where he will have less time than he’s used to. Your passing will suffer. The misplaced passes have come under zero pressure. Anyway, think I’d give it 20 and look at surering up the midfield and getting some pace on the left Far to many players just sitting in the CM doing nothing
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Jun 16, 2024 20:04:44 GMT
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Post by thisisouryear on Jun 16, 2024 20:04:44 GMT
That’s not an excuse for lazy passing It is for TAA. He’s playing in an area where he will have less time than he’s used to. Your passing will suffer. When he miss controlled the ball on the left hand side of the box and lost possession it wasn't a great ball and he had knowhere to go. He's been a little sloppy at other times but hopefully he grows into the position, he is very capable he just needs to settle he just seemed a bit nervous that half
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Post by whatsashig on Jun 16, 2024 20:04:51 GMT
It really isn't. I'll tell you what breeds nerves: the bizarre fetishization of failure that result in the BBC's coverage starting with a montage of everything that has gone wrong for 50 years. For some reason, we like to tell people not to get above their station. We've just spent 45 minutes stroking the ball around like 2010 Spain, drawing comparisons to some of the greatest ever to play the game in this thread. These players - with about 70 more goals between them than any other squad at the tournament - absolutely should be going there expecting to win it. What's the point otherwise? And what's the alternative? Beckham's red card, Southgate's penalty and Ronaldo winking? Change the tune, man. So what montage should they show just a re-run of the 66 final!! German barges going down the Rhine. With Southgate as captain
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Jun 16, 2024 20:05:23 GMT
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Post by headsgoup on Jun 16, 2024 20:05:23 GMT
It really isn't. I'll tell you what breeds nerves: the bizarre fetishization of failure that result in the BBC's coverage starting with a montage of everything that has gone wrong for 50 years. For some reason, we like to tell people not to get above their station. We've just spent 45 minutes stroking the ball around like 2010 Spain, drawing comparisons to some of the greatest ever to play the game in this thread. These players - with about 70 more goals between them than any other squad at the tournament - absolutely should be going there expecting to win it. What's the point otherwise? And what's the alternative? Beckham's red card, Southgate's penalty and Ronaldo winking? Change the tune, man. So what montage should they show just a re-run of the 66 final!! Well, I'm lucky enough to able to watch German, Dutch and Belgian television here. I'll tell you what they do: talk about the game at hand and let the past be the past. The most you'll see is Ruud Gullit lifting the trophy in the credits. Other than that, it's just the here and now. And so it should be. We can't go back in time and make Diego Someone less of a mard arse, but we can place the weight of the past on young shoulders.
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