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Mar 24, 2024 11:14:16 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2024 11:14:16 GMT
Guehi, Shaw, Alexander Arnold Neatly half a team I must have missed when they were regulars 🤷♂️ Guehi has been starting over Maguire (quite rightly) Shaw is clearly the first choice left back and has been since before the last Euros TAA OK, maybe the other midfield spot in between Rice and Bellingham is the most fluid selection in the first 11 |
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Mar 24, 2024 11:14:49 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 24, 2024 11:14:49 GMT
Kane, Saka and shaw the only noticeable absentees from his likely starting 11 weren’t they? Guehi, Shaw, Alexander Arnold Neatly half a team Grealish another |
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Mar 24, 2024 11:18:30 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 24, 2024 11:18:30 GMT
I must have missed when they were regulars 🤷♂️ Guehi has been starting over Maguire (quite rightly) Shaw is clearly the first choice left back and has been since before the last Euros TAA OK, maybe the other midfield spot in between Rice and Bellingham is the most fluid selection in the first 11 I said SHAW, Kane and Saka were only noticeable absentees originally. Guehi has started whilst stones has been injured not in place of Macguire hasn’t he? |
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Mar 24, 2024 11:19:07 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 24, 2024 11:19:07 GMT
Guehi, Shaw, Alexander Arnold Neatly half a team Grealish another Grealish rarely starts. Mr positive doesn’t trust him 🤷♂️ |
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Post by werrington on Mar 24, 2024 11:22:09 GMT
Grealish rarely starts. Mr positive doesn’t trust him 🤷♂️ The squad was decimated Dave I’m not a Southgate fan either and I’d love to see Klopp or Guardiola leading this squad but to say the life has been sucked out of watching them is just utterly bizarre That was the Roy Hodgson era |
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Post by crazyhoss on Mar 24, 2024 11:29:47 GMT
Trying not to get too down about the result but we don't get to play Brazil very often, never mind beat them, so it would have been nice to put on a performance. It largely just reinforced what we already know:
If we don't play with pace and intensity we look very average. Walking football is not our forte.
It's not just Kane's goals we miss, it's his all round contribution to build up play. Without him we are toothless
We still can't find a reliable centre-half to play alongside Stones
We have a left back problem
The Foden conundrum continues
The only thing I did learn (I don't watch Chelsea very often) is how wank Gallagher is. No touch, skill or vision...just another long distance runner. In fact if he adds some shouting and pointing to his game he can be the new "Hendo" which probably means he'll get 100 caps.
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Mar 24, 2024 11:45:36 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2024 11:45:36 GMT
Grealish rarely starts. Mr positive doesn’t trust him 🤷♂️ Grealish has been the regular first choice since the last Euros He's played Saka or Foden on the right with Grealish starting most games on the left If you don't watch England fine but don't make arguments based on inaccuracies Unless you were referring to Grealish club manager(?) in which case you are correct, he rarely starts |
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Mar 24, 2024 11:48:05 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2024 11:48:05 GMT
Guehi has been starting over Maguire (quite rightly) Shaw is clearly the first choice left back and has been since before the last Euros TAA OK, maybe the other midfield spot in between Rice and Bellingham is the most fluid selection in the first 11 I said SHAW, Kane and Saka were only noticeable absentees originally. Guehi has started whilst stones has been injured not in place of Macguire hasn’t he? No Guehi and Stones had been starting before Stones injury Since the World Cup Maguire has moved down to 3rd in the pecking order Guehi current injury lay off is a concern not saying Guehi is a top international but he's a better option than Maguire |
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Post by cdf on Mar 24, 2024 12:08:15 GMT
Conor Gallagher is not international standard is he?
In possession and thought process, he's too slow.
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Mar 24, 2024 12:11:39 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 24, 2024 12:11:39 GMT
Conor Gallagher is not international standard is he? In possession and thought process, he's too slow. He's a strong runner, can see why he's wanted in the Premier League Shouldn’t be in the squad Ward Prowse, Mainoo and TAA should all be ahead of him I'd have Henderson ahead of him, at least he brings leadership even if he's too slow now |
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Mar 24, 2024 12:16:13 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 24, 2024 12:16:13 GMT
Conor Gallagher is not international standard is he? In possession and thought process, he's too slow. He's one of those players who is consistently inconsistent if that makes sense. He can look like a world class player for 10 mins and then in the same game do some total donkey moves. Overall a decent Premier league player but unlikely to ever be considered top level. In my opinion... |
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Mar 24, 2024 12:23:51 GMT
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Post by GrahamHyde on Mar 24, 2024 12:23:51 GMT
Henderson is a better option than Gallagher even now.
Mainoo needed to start though, we've seen enough of the others to know they're not good enough at the highest level.
Chilwell was awful, Shaw or Trippier both better options there though I think they're both injured?
Konsa was steady enough but the fact he's in at RB when we took about 10 to the last World Cup is bewildering.
Gordon looked busy first half but faded in the second and created nothing of any note.
Honestly so poor across the board yesterday from our back-up players and just highlights why most of them are at the teams that they are.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 24, 2024 12:26:04 GMT
Grealish rarely starts. Mr positive doesn’t trust him 🤷♂️ Grealish has been the regular first choice since the last Euros He's played Saka or Foden on the right with Grealish starting most games on the left If you don't watch England fine but don't make arguments based on inaccuracies Unless you were referring to Grealish club manager(?) in which case you are correct, he rarely starts Pickford Walker, Macguire, stones, trippier/any fit left back Rice, Henderson, Bellingham Saka, Kane, Foden Has been his preferred starting 11 for an eternity. If Grealish starts for Southgate, Foden misses out is the norm. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 12:32:55 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team.
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Mar 24, 2024 12:36:03 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 24, 2024 12:36:03 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. Southgate has his own set of criteria so I would expect Grealish to be in the squad. However, Palmer has been outstanding this season and must be close to being one of the first players you’d look to off the bench. |
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Mar 24, 2024 12:38:56 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 12:38:56 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. Southgate has his own set of criteria so I would expect Grealish to be in the squad. However, Palmer has been outstanding this season and must be close to being one of the first players you’d look to off the bench. We have fantastic attacking options. The only 4 that should be guaranteed a spot in the squad are Kane, Foden, Saka and Bellingham. The rest should be about form. |
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Mar 24, 2024 13:12:47 GMT
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Post by malteser68 on Mar 24, 2024 13:12:47 GMT
There is absolutely no doubt that England have lost a final at home at wembley (a final which they reached without beating any real opposition) against what is arguably the worst Italy national team since 1966. There can be no doubt on that whatsoever. And that defeat is attributable wholly and solely to the ineptitude of one Gareth Southgate. The fact that he was allowed to remain in charge of the national team is undeniable evidence that the FA want hin there just because he is a brown noser who plays along with all their stupid pride initiatives etc. It’s his only saving grace. And I am absolutely certain that as long as he remains in charge England won’t be winning anything in spite of having the players to do so. Let’s see if he has the guts to start with Mainoo or else revert to form and play his rent boy Henderson. And there's absolutely no doubt that even if we DID win a tournament under Southgate, you'd invent some bullshit reason why Southgate had nothing to do with it anyway and deserved no credit. You're as predictable as you are boring, mate. I can say the same for you. Pity you weren’t born a horse as you would have been exceptional at drawing carriages, looking always ahead, no left, no right, blinkers steadily in place. If the gutless mediocre muppet had won anything with the best generation England has had in decades there would be nothing to say. But no, he fluffed his lines in the 2018 World Cup losing to a Croatia which were blown to smithereens by a France lead by a proper manager, lost a home final to a rubbish Italian team none of whose players would make it into a XI of a top premier league side in 2021, and bowing out without even the semblance of a fight against France in the last World Cup. And yet you and the other happy clappers continue to defend this circus clown |
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Mar 24, 2024 13:15:04 GMT
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Post by davejohnno1 on Mar 24, 2024 13:15:04 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. He wasn’t in the team when he should have been so he’s got no chance now. Being a Man City player should be enough to save him though. |
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Mar 24, 2024 14:05:14 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 14:05:14 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. He wasn’t in the team when he should have been so he’s got no chance now. Being a Man City player should be enough to save him though. He shouldn’t be a Man City player 🤣 |
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Mar 24, 2024 14:12:31 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Mar 24, 2024 14:12:31 GMT
He won’t be beyond this season.
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Mar 24, 2024 14:57:11 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 14:57:11 GMT
He won’t be beyond this season. Who’s gonna sign him for the money they will need for him? |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 24, 2024 15:04:12 GMT
He won’t be beyond this season. Who’s gonna sign him for the money they will need for him? He'll be 31 when his man city contract expires in 2027, so at a guess he'll run it down and leave on a free. In my humble opinion man city was a bad move for him. He's the kind of player who wants to be top dog and play as a roaming player with few restrictions. I still don't understand why they paid 100m for him as he's just not really a man city type player. |
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Post by Trouserdog on Mar 24, 2024 15:06:35 GMT
Southgate has his own set of criteria so I would expect Grealish to be in the squad. However, Palmer has been outstanding this season and must be close to being one of the first players you’d look to off the bench. We have fantastic attacking options. The only 4 that should be guaranteed a spot in the squad are Kane, Foden, Saka and Bellingham. The rest should be about form. .png) |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 15:07:32 GMT
We have fantastic attacking options. The only 4 that should be guaranteed a spot in the squad are Kane, Foden, Saka and Bellingham. The rest should be about form. We need a good option on the bench. 👍 |
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Mar 24, 2024 15:48:23 GMT
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Post by bigvern on Mar 24, 2024 15:48:23 GMT
It's a bit of an overreaction to last night's game. We always lose to decent sides. Did anyone expect rather than hope we beat the French in Qatar?
Does anyone expect to beat the French in the Semi's in the summer if we meet?
Maybe I've been watching England too long 😀
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Post by kaney78 on Mar 24, 2024 16:07:45 GMT
The comments I've seen in relation to this game on social media from so called England 'fans' is a joke. An absolute meltdown after a 1-0 defeat to Brazil with, let's face it, a lot of our C-team. It's like they wait by their keyboard willing us to fail just so that they can stick the boot in on Southgate. Nothing he ever does will be good enough for them, they've made their minds up. Entitled fannies who have probably never seen a real game of football in their lives. I expect it from what is likely a majority of glory hunters, less so from Stoke fans who are used to winning fuck all. Perspective needed. I just came too late for Alf Ramsey so Southgate has been easily the most successful England manager I have known. Often we would not qualify for major tournaments at all and when we did making the semis or even a final was unheard of. agree completely.We do have some very good English players now but Southgate has helped to bring them through by picking them.And the fact people talk about England winning tournaments now and getting to finals etc is 'because' of Southgate not 'despite' Southgate being manager. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 24, 2024 18:11:10 GMT
Not sure if this is the correct thread but I’ve just been watching footage of former England manager Sven Goran Eriksen manage a Liverpool legends team yesterday in front of 60,000 fans as he lives out his final chapter thanks to that cunt terminal cancer.
It was truly heartwarming to see him smiling and loving every minute.
Whatever you think of Liverpool it was a tremendous gesture and Sven has always seemed like a lovely fella who had genuine affiliation and love for the English game and supporters.
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Post by bertiestan on Mar 24, 2024 19:26:20 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. Yes he should, absolute bollocks bayern |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 24, 2024 19:28:52 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. Yes he should, absolute bollocks bayern I agree he’s the best player in possession in the squad. Perhaps not an automatic starter but very useful as a sub for keeping the ball and drawing fouls. Needs to shoot more |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Mar 24, 2024 20:00:42 GMT
Grealish shouldn’t be guaranteed a place in the squad nevermind the team. Yes he should, absolute bollocks bayern Why? We have multiple attackers (out of the 4 who should be guaranteed) who are as good as him and if not better. He’s just a bit of a cult hero. |
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