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Post by lordb on Mar 17, 2023 13:49:10 GMT
how many fixtures? how many competitive, 1? Was quoted off Five Live that England had not won in Italy since 61, although Im happy to be corrected on that fact Don’t doubt we haven't Just assuming it's not that many games two competitive can think of, World Cup qualifier for 78 and another in 1997,0.0 Not a lot of friendlies either |
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Mar 17, 2023 14:11:45 GMT
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Post by werrington on Mar 17, 2023 14:11:45 GMT
Mason Mount has withdrawn from the squad due to injury
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Post by cdf on Mar 17, 2023 15:30:15 GMT
Was quoted off Five Live that England had not won in Italy since 61, although Im happy to be corrected on that fact Don’t doubt we haven't Just assuming it's not that many games two competitive can think of, World Cup qualifier for 78 and another in 1997,0.0 Not a lot of friendlies either We lost 1-0 in Italy back in September in the Nations League |
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 18, 2023 8:56:36 GMT
I have tickets for the Uruguay game. Been to the “old” Wembley many times but my first visit to the new stadium. Looking fwd to it. Hope you aren’t too disappointed when it’s Ukraine and not Uruguay who run out mate 😊 Well spotted. I had not noticed this. can only presume it was preemptive text 😀 |
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Mar 18, 2023 9:06:34 GMT
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Post by lordb on Mar 18, 2023 9:06:34 GMT
Don’t doubt we haven't Just assuming it's not that many games two competitive can think of, World Cup qualifier for 78 and another in 1997,0.0 Not a lot of friendlies either We lost 1-0 in Italy back in September in the Nations League Doh, forgot that 3 games Anymore? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 20, 2023 15:05:08 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 20, 2023 15:19:10 GMT
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Post by spitthedog on Mar 20, 2023 15:25:18 GMT
That midfield is a bit dodgy now with 2 players who cant get in their club team. One just returning from injury. Must be someone coming in? |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2023 15:26:29 GMT
Midfield looks a bit sparse outside of Bellingham and Rice.
Have we got any CBs on the rise as the future of that position?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 20, 2023 16:21:02 GMT
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 20, 2023 16:23:34 GMT
Midfield looks a bit sparse outside of Bellingham and Rice. Have we got any CBs on the rise as the future of that position? Surely Tomori needs a run in the squad at the very least? I'm not 100% convinced by him but he's a regular in Serie A and the Champions League with a big game temperament surely a better option than the likes of Guehi who never really impresses me when I see him........... |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2023 16:25:49 GMT
Midfield looks a bit sparse outside of Bellingham and Rice. Have we got any CBs on the rise as the future of that position? Surely Tomori needs a run in the squad at the very least? I'm not 100% convinced by him but he's a regular in Serie A and the Champions League with a big game temperament surely a better option than the likes of Guehi who never really impresses me when I see him......... I'm surprised he's been so reticent to have a look at him. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Mar 20, 2023 16:27:18 GMT
Midfield looks a bit sparse outside of Bellingham and Rice. Have we got any CBs on the rise as the future of that position? Colwill seems to be talked up a lot as someone who could break in before the Euros. Think he's in the u21s this time. |
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Mar 20, 2023 16:29:51 GMT
Midfield looks a bit sparse outside of Bellingham and Rice. Have we got any CBs on the rise as the future of that position? Colwill seems to be talked up a lot as someone who could break in before the Euros. Think he's in the u21s this time. Will be interesting to see if he's part of Potter (or whoever)'s plans next season or if he gets another loan. |
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Mar 20, 2023 16:31:09 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Mar 20, 2023 16:31:09 GMT
Have we changed our kit again? |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Mar 20, 2023 16:32:08 GMT
Branthwaite is getting rave reviews at PSV but haven't seen a great deal of him.......
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Mar 20, 2023 16:39:32 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Mar 20, 2023 16:39:32 GMT
i read roy keanes autobiograhy , after 3 or 4 games for man utd , bryan robson pulls him to one side brian robson...you are running around a lot roy ( keane) , putting in great tackles , scoring some goals , but thats only half a job . watch me or incey ( paul ince ) , we always showing for the ball , taking it off the keeper , the centre halfs , starting the play off okay thinks roy keane , the blokes bryan robson , he must be right , i will give this a go with practice , roy got better and better at taking the ball of his defenders and starting the play off . What he couldn't do , was take the ball off them and use it like bryan robson and score the amount of goals brian robson did . As the years went bye , he twigged brian robson , must have been effing brilliant to take the ball off the man utd defence , start the play AND SCORE THE AMOUNT OF GOALS ROBBO DID . you dont play alongside brian robson and think declan rice is the real deal . Not being Bryan Robson doesn't make Rice average Rice is a good player which is why so many clubs want him Robson was on of the best players we have ever had Rice is a good premier league midfielder but nothing more, he’s not worth 100 million which keeps getting mentioned about him and no one will pay anywhere near that for him. He hasn’t got the quality on the ball to demand that price. He is the best defensive midfielder we’ve got but I’ve just never got it with him, too often games pass him by (when he’s playing for England not just West Ham) |
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Post by lordb on Mar 20, 2023 17:02:36 GMT
Not being Bryan Robson doesn't make Rice average Rice is a good player which is why so many clubs want him Robson was on of the best players we have ever had Rice is a good premier league midfielder but nothing more, he’s not worth 100 million which keeps getting mentioned about him and no one will pay anywhere near that for him. He hasn’t got the quality on the ball to demand that price. He is the best defensive midfielder we’ve got but I’ve just never got it with him, too often games pass him by (when he’s playing for England not just West Ham) 'no one will pay anywhere near that for him. He hasn’t got the quality on the ball to demand that price.' you sure? |
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Mar 20, 2023 17:16:01 GMT
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Post by LphPotter on Mar 20, 2023 17:16:01 GMT
Rice is a good premier league midfielder but nothing more, he’s not worth 100 million which keeps getting mentioned about him and no one will pay anywhere near that for him. He hasn’t got the quality on the ball to demand that price. He is the best defensive midfielder we’ve got but I’ve just never got it with him, too often games pass him by (when he’s playing for England not just West Ham) 'no one will pay anywhere near that for him. He hasn’t got the quality on the ball to demand that price.' you sure? £100 million? Absolutely sure that no one will pay that for him, why didn’t they in the summer? |
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Mar 20, 2023 21:48:24 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 20, 2023 21:48:24 GMT
If we see the same passive performance, lack of aggression focus and desire that we've seen in the last two big games we've had, against Italy in the euros, France in the wc, then serious questions need to be asked.
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Post by mtrstudent on Mar 20, 2023 22:55:31 GMT
If we see the same passive performance, lack of aggression focus and desire that we've seen in the last two big games we've had, against Italy in the euros, France in the wc, then serious questions need to be asked. I was a lot more pissed off about Italy than France. Thought we put in a decent showing against a true top side. It wasn't enough on the day but it showed learning from Southgate, which I was worried he couldn't do. |
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Post by lordb on Mar 21, 2023 3:34:20 GMT
If we see the same passive performance, lack of aggression focus and desire that we've seen in the last two big games we've had, against Italy in the euros, France in the wc, then serious questions need to be asked. I was a lot more pissed off about Italy than France. Thought we put in a decent showing against a true top side. It wasn't enough on the day but it showed learning from Southgate, which I was worried he couldn't do. Chalk and cheese those last two games Southgate got second half and extra time very wrong v Italy France game we were the better side, no complaints re the manager that game |
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Mar 21, 2023 6:21:34 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 21, 2023 6:21:34 GMT
I was a lot more pissed off about Italy than France. Thought we put in a decent showing against a true top side. It wasn't enough on the day but it showed learning from Southgate, which I was worried he couldn't do. Chalk and cheese those last two games Southgate got second half and extra time very wrong v Italy France game we were the better side, no complaints re the manager that game Agree. It was a rarity in being a blameless exit. The French media acknowledged they'd been second best which was slightly pleasing |
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Mar 21, 2023 9:05:42 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 9:05:42 GMT
Chalk and cheese those last two games Southgate got second half and extra time very wrong v Italy France game we were the better side, no complaints re the manager that game Agree. It was a rarity in being a blameless exit. The French media acknowledged they'd been second best which was slightly pleasing He doesn't get enough results in these games though, even in the last nations league, it was a really poor performance against poor German and Italian teams, limp defeats with no aggression, no confidence, no plan. The world cup on reflection was a lot of nothingness, going out against the first good team. He needs to get a good result and performance against Italy |
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Post by raythesailor on Mar 21, 2023 9:11:40 GMT
No Rashford and a hostile atmosphere in Italy.
A tough test. 🤔
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Mar 21, 2023 9:17:44 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 21, 2023 9:17:44 GMT
Agree. It was a rarity in being a blameless exit. The French media acknowledged they'd been second best which was slightly pleasing He doesn't get enough results in these games though, even in the last nations league, it was a really poor performance against poor German and Italian teams, limp defeats with no aggression, no confidence, no plan. The world cup on reflection was a lot of nothingness, going out against the first good team. He needs to get a good result and performance against Italy The nation's league isn't really that important. We were shyte yes. But so what? We maintained our history of going out to the first genuine contenders we face. BUT it was different in that we didn't freeze and took the game to France. I disagree Italy and Germany were poor. |
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Mar 21, 2023 11:41:09 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Mar 21, 2023 11:41:09 GMT
He doesn't get enough results in these games though, even in the last nations league, it was a really poor performance against poor German and Italian teams, limp defeats with no aggression, no confidence, no plan. The world cup on reflection was a lot of nothingness, going out against the first good team. He needs to get a good result and performance against Italy The nation's league isn't really that important. We were shyte yes. But so what? We maintained our history of going out to the first genuine contenders we face. BUT it was different in that we didn't freeze and took the game to France. I disagree Italy and Germany were poor. I think for us, with our awful history against the top teams, we have to treat every game as important against them, we need to get in the habit. Eg, first twenty minutes against France the players looked scared, weren't aggressive enough, we don't see ourselves as a top team despite the talent available. Then we spend the rest of the game chasing it |
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Post by Northy on Mar 21, 2023 11:58:03 GMT
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Post by thevoid on Mar 21, 2023 17:32:08 GMT
A poor start and I think the FA will be keeping any eye on Potter's situation at Chelsea.
Reckon he'll be available come the summer (unless something crazy happens and Chelsea win the Champions League).
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Mar 21, 2023 20:51:53 GMT
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Post by JoeinOz on Mar 21, 2023 20:51:53 GMT
A poor start and I think the FA will be keeping any eye on Potter's situation at Chelsea. Reckon he'll be available come the summer (unless something crazy happens and Chelsea win the Champions League). It'd be a remarkable turn of events for Southo not to be the manager in Germany. And what's a poor start? Some might say a 0-1 defeat on Friday is a disaster. |
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