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Post by lordb on Jul 16, 2024 8:52:12 GMT
Howe, Gerrard and Lampard being linked with the job Oh my Lord: oh my Lord! Scary isn't it If it has to be English then Potter or Carsley |
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Post by str8outtahampton on Jul 16, 2024 9:09:21 GMT
Scary isn't it If it has to be English then Potter or Carsley If it has to be English then my choice would be Ricky Tomlinson or Chérie Lunghi. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 9:18:21 GMT
Scary isn't it If it has to be English then Potter or Carsley Although in football terms, Carsley is Irish - which would no doubt cause problems for some I wouldn't be vehemently against Howe. It'd be a hell of a jump for Carsley to suddenly become one of the most famous people in the country, on the back of hardly any management experience. Not sure how anyone would react in that situation. I know the Spanish manager had a similar trajectory, but the England job is chalk and cheese. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 9:41:02 GMT
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Jul 16, 2024 9:44:12 GMT
Looking at the English candidates fills me with dread,if we really have to improve,it just has to be a foreign manager,the names mentioned will take us nowhere maybe even backwards.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 10:00:41 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Jul 16, 2024 10:03:19 GMT
good, he deserved to go on his own terms, now its time to look forward to the future
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 16, 2024 10:04:00 GMT
Scary isn't it If it has to be English then Potter or Carsley Although in football terms, Carsley is Irish - which would no doubt cause problems for some I wouldn't be vehemently against Howe. It'd be a hell of a jump for Carsley to suddenly become one of the most famous people in the country, on the back of hardly any management experience. Not sure how anyone would react in that situation. I know the Spanish manager had a similar trajectory, but the England job is chalk and cheese. Where you get that from? Carsley was born in Birmingham. Hes as Irish as Jonny Walters. I think it would be ballsy to appoint Carsley but it would make a lot of sense from the FA in terms of continuity, coming from within the system itself. This could be the way to make a treadmill of national managers following the U21 path. The more I think about Carsley the more it makes actual sense - IF we want to break away from the cycle of foreign managers and no style of consistency in the English National Team. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 16, 2024 10:08:07 GMT
Thanks a lot Gareth, a real gentleman of football. I think in a few years we will be pining for the Southgate period of England, and he will be looked back on fondly. There was too much hate and vitriol thrown in his direction, but he made playing for England a pleasure for the players again. |
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 10:08:14 GMT
Although in football terms, Carsley is Irish - which would no doubt cause problems for some I wouldn't be vehemently against Howe. It'd be a hell of a jump for Carsley to suddenly become one of the most famous people in the country, on the back of hardly any management experience. Not sure how anyone would react in that situation. I know the Spanish manager had a similar trajectory, but the England job is chalk and cheese. Where you get that from? Carsley was born in Birmingham. Hes as Irish as Jonny Walters. I think it would be ballsy to appoint Carsley but it would make a lot of sense from the FA in terms of continuity, coming from within the system itself. This could be the way to make a treadmill of national managers following the U21 path. The more I think about Carsley the more it makes actual sense - IF we want to break away from the cycle of foreign managers and no style of consistency in the English National Team. "In football terms" he's Irish, whether he's born in Birmingham or Cork though I wouldn't have an issue if he was from Mars, but some people would. |
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Post by march4 on Jul 16, 2024 10:10:09 GMT
Start the discussion with Pep and Klopp please.
Keep Lampard and co well away from it.
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 16, 2024 10:11:58 GMT
Got Potter written all over it.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 16, 2024 10:12:13 GMT
m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/next-permanent-england-manager/29731199Graham Potter 11/10 Lee Carsley 5/2 Eddie Howe 4/1 Jurgen Klopp 8/1 Mauricio Pochettino 8/1 Thomas Tuchel 10/1 Frank Lampard 20/1 Pep Guardiola 20/1 Michael Carrick 33/1 Steven Gerrard 33/1 Brendan Rodgers 50/1 Emma Hayes 50/1 Kieran McKenna 50/1 Sarina Wiegman 50/1 Sean Dyche 40/1 Steve Holland 40/1 Wayne Rooney 40/1 Arsene Wenger 50/1 David Moyes 66/1 Gary O'Neil 50/1 Marcelo Bielsa 66/1 Steve Cooper 50/1 Thomas Frank 50/1 Ange Postecoglou 66/1 Carlo Ancelotti 80/1 Will Still 80/1 Chris Powell 100/1 David Beckham 100/1 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 100/1 Phil Neville 100/1 Alan Shearer 150/1 Carlos Corberan 150/1 Gary Neville 150/1 Julien Lopetegui 150/1 Liam Rosenior 150/1 Mikel Arteta 150/1 Paul Warne 150/1 Sam Allardyce 200/1
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Post by insect on Jul 16, 2024 10:12:48 GMT
Start the discussion with Pep and Klopp please. Keep Lampard and co well away from it. This. |
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Jul 16, 2024 10:13:19 GMT
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 16, 2024 10:13:19 GMT
He has done an outstanding job and leaves head and shoulders above his predecessors, with tue exception of Alf Ramsey. I would defend him to the hilt but the time is probably right as things have gone stale and he has taken a frankly ridiculous amount of criticism and abuse.
Hopefully the FA have now learnt their lesson and won't throw money after a high profile appointment. I'd be horrified if Southgate turned up to manage Stoke, but he was the right man at the right time.
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Post by alsagerstokie on Jul 16, 2024 10:13:59 GMT
100% id take Klopp. Go get him.
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Jul 16, 2024 10:14:19 GMT
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 16, 2024 10:14:19 GMT
Start the discussion with Pep and Klopp please. Keep Lampard and co well away from it. Offer it to Pep on the condition he can start after this season and put Carsley in temporary charge until then. Not gonna happen but I can at least dream. |
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Post by cheekymatt71 on Jul 16, 2024 10:14:23 GMT
Where you get that from? Carsley was born in Birmingham. Hes as Irish as Jonny Walters. I think it would be ballsy to appoint Carsley but it would make a lot of sense from the FA in terms of continuity, coming from within the system itself. This could be the way to make a treadmill of national managers following the U21 path. The more I think about Carsley the more it makes actual sense - IF we want to break away from the cycle of foreign managers and no style of consistency in the English National Team. "In football terms" he's Irish, whether he's born in Birmingham or Cork though I wouldn't have an issue if he was from Mars, but some people would. Im actually against the Foreign coach just because of Capello/Eriksson experiences. Its clear we need someone who understand the English football culture (whatever that actually is). So I would include Klopp in the debate because he spent years here although close to zero % chance he would be interested. Out of the true English lot I would actually go for Carsley - Hes actually WON a tournament, and he is part of the FA System. I really think if we are trying to BUILD a legacy and dynasty for English football for the next 20 years we need to go in this direction. Other countries have done the same for years. |
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 16, 2024 10:14:52 GMT
Got Potter written all over it. I'd be fine with that. He's at least won stuff, unlike Southgate. |
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Jul 16, 2024 10:15:01 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 16, 2024 10:15:01 GMT
Looking at the English candidates fills me with dread,if we really have to improve,it just has to be a foreign manager,the names mentioned will take us nowhere maybe even backwards. I feel the complete opposite. For me, an England team has to have an English manager. I can’t get behind say a German or Argentinian manager running our national side. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 16, 2024 10:15:39 GMT
The FA will just lumber us with another cheap, nodding donkey of a yes man.
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Post by Linx on Jul 16, 2024 10:16:39 GMT
Got Potter written all over it. I agree. He’s diplomatic and inoffensive, which the FA will like. Plus, he will be less expensive to employ, as they won’t have to prise him from a club role. No English manager has really won anything of note, so the best ones are at more or less the same level anyway. |
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 16, 2024 10:17:08 GMT
The issue with Carsley is the second we start to not play well, he becomes a "paddy cunt".
The FA won't want that kind of heat.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Jul 16, 2024 10:18:24 GMT
m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/next-permanent-england-manager/29731199Graham Potter 11/10 Lee Carsley 5/2 Eddie Howe 4/1 Jurgen Klopp 8/1 Mauricio Pochettino 8/1 Thomas Tuchel 10/1 Frank Lampard 20/1 Pep Guardiola 20/1 Michael Carrick 33/1 Steven Gerrard 33/1 Brendan Rodgers 50/1 Emma Hayes 50/1 Kieran McKenna 50/1 Sarina Wiegman 50/1 Sean Dyche 40/1 Steve Holland 40/1 Wayne Rooney 40/1 Arsene Wenger 50/1 David Moyes 66/1 Gary O'Neil 50/1 Marcelo Bielsa 66/1 Steve Cooper 50/1 Thomas Frank 50/1 Ange Postecoglou 66/1 Carlo Ancelotti 80/1 Will Still 80/1 Chris Powell 100/1 David Beckham 100/1 Jimmy Floyd Hasselbaink 100/1 Phil Neville 100/1 Alan Shearer 150/1 Carlos Corberan 150/1 Gary Neville 150/1 Julien Lopetegui 150/1 Liam Rosenior 150/1 Mikel Arteta 150/1 Paul Warne 150/1 Sam Allardyce 200/1 Would genuinely take Wiegman over a lot of that list. |
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Jul 16, 2024 10:18:41 GMT
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 16, 2024 10:18:41 GMT
Thank you Gareth, though I think it’s the right decision and I think he’s realised if he stayed on the expectation for success would be like no other.
Hope the FA have balls and appoint a proactive and attacking manager who focuses solely on football and not the sort of nonsense that has been allowed to creep in during Southgate’s reign.
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Post by robscfc on Jul 16, 2024 10:19:35 GMT
100% id take Klopp. Go get him. He wouldn't take us |
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Jul 16, 2024 10:19:44 GMT
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Post by datguy on Jul 16, 2024 10:19:44 GMT
The FA will just lumber us with another cheap, nodding donkey of a yes man. Southgate was anything but cheap. By far the most highly paid international manager in the world. Crazy stuff. |
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Post by nottsover60 on Jul 16, 2024 10:20:00 GMT
Got Potter written all over it. I heard Howe |
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Jul 16, 2024 10:20:00 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Jul 16, 2024 10:20:00 GMT
Thanks Gareth. Your time has done restored some pride etc etc
Time for the next manager to take what has been done and make the slight improvements to go further.
We may however have missed the chance.
I hope it’s not Poch.
It won’t be Klopp. He won’t upset the scouse faithful
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Post by werrington on Jul 16, 2024 10:20:00 GMT
Like I put earlier on the thread …. about the best man not the biggest name
Ask Spain
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