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Post by metalhead on Jul 27, 2024 22:48:48 GMT
The sickening individuals physically attacking the police officers deserve lashings and a 5 year sentence as a minimum. As God's rightly points out, they can count themselves incredibly fortunate they've not been shot dead. Forget the police officer in question for now, we should be focusing solely on the severity of the punishment for those attacking the police officers prior to any police investigation. After reviewing the footage further am I right in saying one of the officers that was punched and knocked to the ground was female? To be fair i’ve been impressed by some of the posts from Wanabee and Metalhead in particular tonight and though we’ve not always agreed in the past they’ve been very fair in their assessments of the 2 males behaviours and the punishments they should receive whilst not condoning the actions of the officer but praising some of the others. I just don’t get that some still seem obsessed about the incident being all about the officer and not the behaviour of the 2 thugs whose behaviour it’s impossible to condone having now seen the latest footage. I’m hoping that those protesting in Rochdale previously don’t have the same blinkered view and see it for what it is 2 thugs who need a very harsh sentence for what they’ve done and an officer that needs to face a full investigation around his conduct and not a racist incident started by the actions of the 2 males. I’d like to think that if the first video had been shown from the start things would have been different and the community tensions wouldn’t have occurred. Those protesting in Rochdale may have their own agenda... |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 27, 2024 22:49:56 GMT
Did you see the bit where the female copper gets sparked out? Imagine that was your daughter/wife/anyfuckingfemalewhatsoever. I challenge you not to react. Any normal person would react mate,copper or no copper Our police are paid and trained to be better than that. The great majority of police officers in our country are better than that. Police officers should not react in the same way as “ normal people” |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 27, 2024 22:52:08 GMT
To be fair i’ve been impressed by some of the posts from Wanabee and Metalhead in particular tonight and though we’ve not always agreed in the past they’ve been very fair in their assessments of the 2 males behaviours and the punishments they should receive whilst not condoning the actions of the officer but praising some of the others. I just don’t get that some still seem obsessed about the incident being all about the officer and not the behaviour of the 2 thugs whose behaviour it’s impossible to condone having now seen the latest footage. I’m hoping that those protesting in Rochdale previously don’t have the same blinkered view and see it for what it is 2 thugs who need a very harsh sentence for what they’ve done and an officer that needs to face a full investigation around his conduct and not a racist incident started by the actions of the 2 males. I’d like to think that if the first video had been shown from the start things would have been different and the community tensions wouldn’t have occurred. Those protesting in Rochdale may have their own agenda... Useful idiots. |
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Post by metalhead on Jul 27, 2024 22:52:46 GMT
Any normal person would react mate,copper or no copper Our police are paid and trained to be better than that. The great majority of police officers in our country are better than that. Police officers should not react in the same way as “ normal people” That's a great post in fairness. The two other officers acted brilliantly. They really were better than that and didn't allow an extremely hostile situation to get even worse. They deserve a commendation all things considered and what they were up against. Had their colleague controlled himself, it would have been a clean sweep of very brave and controlled police work in a challenging situation. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 27, 2024 22:53:08 GMT
Any normal person would react mate,copper or no copper Our police are paid and trained to be better than that. The great majority of police officers in our country are better than that. Police officers should not react in the same way as “ normal people” Fair comment. Police have to be disciplined and can’t let their emotion take control however hard it may be. Morally they have to have the higher ground or they’ll just constantly be accused of being hypocrites. |
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Post by metalhead on Jul 27, 2024 22:56:27 GMT
Our police are paid and trained to be better than that. The great majority of police officers in our country are better than that. Police officers should not react in the same way as “ normal people” Fair comment. Police have to be disciplined and can’t let their emotion take control however hard it can be. Morally they have to have the higher ground or they’ll just constantly be accused of being hypocrites. Sadly, 15 years of Tory cuts won't have helped. These things impact everything from the quality of applicants to the standard of basic training. He's either a psychotic thug or lacking the necessary training. |
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Post by chamberlain on Jul 27, 2024 23:10:12 GMT
Our police are paid and trained to be better than that. The great majority of police officers in our country are better than that. Police officers should not react in the same way as “ normal people” Fair comment. Police have to be disciplined and can’t let their emotion take control however hard it can be. Morally they have to have the higher ground or they’ll just constantly be accused of being hypocrites. As I've said I don't condone the stamp , but non of us know the pressures the police face.They are human beings after all. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 27, 2024 23:19:16 GMT
Fair comment. Police have to be disciplined and can’t let their emotion take control however hard it can be. Morally they have to have the higher ground or they’ll just constantly be accused of being hypocrites. As I've said I don't condone the stamp , but non of us know the pressures the police face.They are human beings after all. They are. I think the problem at the moment is they probably feel very unloved. There’s a lot of negativity around them. Some of it deserved some of it not. The problem is in the case of the media they’ll only print negative stories and never put any positive ones to address the balance. (There’s plenty to choose from). It’s a bloody tough job and there’s some great officers about. For me things will only improve when they begin to feel loved and wanted. Then moral will go up and I’m sure reflect in the way they operate. As you say they are human beings and not robots and with the amount of trauma they deal with on a daily basis they need the maximum welfare support they can get before they crack. The new govt need to invest in them. |
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Post by metalhead on Jul 27, 2024 23:22:57 GMT
As I've said I don't condone the stamp , but non of us know the pressures the police face.They are human beings after all. They are. I think the problem at the moment is they probably feel very unloved. There’s a lot of negativity around them. Some of it deserved some of it not. The problem is in the case of the media they’ll only print negative stories and never put any positive ones to address the balance. (There’s plenty to choose from). It’s a bloody tough job and there’s some great officers about. For me things will only improve when they begin to feel loved and wanted. Then moral will go up and I’m sure reflect in the way they operate. As you say they are human beings and not robots and with the amount of trauma they deal with on a daily basis they need the maximum welfare support they can get before they crack. The new govt need to invest in them. They need to increase the bar for entry. Right now, it seems like any old scum bag can be a police officer. Increase the entry requirements. Increase the basic pay. Get rid of the thugs. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 27, 2024 23:27:52 GMT
As I've said I don't condone the stamp , but non of us know the pressures the police face.They are human beings after all. They are. I think the problem at the moment is they probably feel very unloved. There’s a lot of negativity around them. Some of it deserved some of it not. The problem is in the case of the media they’ll only print negative stories and never put any positive ones to address the balance. (There’s plenty to choose from). It’s a bloody tough job and there’s some great officers about. For me things will only improve when they begin to feel loved and wanted. Then moral will go up and I’m sure reflect in the way they operate. As you say they are human beings and not robots and with the amount of trauma they deal with on a daily basis they need the maximum welfare support they can get before they crack. The new govt need to invest in them. What exactly will only improve when the police start to feel loved and wanted? The vast majority of police officers would never, ever behave like this particular one did. He's a thug, who has shamed the force. |
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Post by starkiller on Jul 28, 2024 0:13:58 GMT
It looked like the situation WAS under control. Brother 1 was flat out, face down on the floor and brother 2 was sat on the seat with his hands on his head. If he was still worried the situation wasn't under control, he could have withdrawn his firearm and told the lad not to move until his colleagues had cuffed him. They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack. You may be happy that some people have no fear of the police but others aren't. The big issue here is (i'll say it again) They are police officers, who were coming under a sustained attack, FFS man wake up. If they had been overpowered, and there was immediate danger of this, their weapons would have been taken and who knows what these out of control vermin would have done in that airport. But we would be talking about a much more serious incident. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 28, 2024 0:25:46 GMT
They are. I think the problem at the moment is they probably feel very unloved. There’s a lot of negativity around them. Some of it deserved some of it not. The problem is in the case of the media they’ll only print negative stories and never put any positive ones to address the balance. (There’s plenty to choose from). It’s a bloody tough job and there’s some great officers about. For me things will only improve when they begin to feel loved and wanted. Then moral will go up and I’m sure reflect in the way they operate. As you say they are human beings and not robots and with the amount of trauma they deal with on a daily basis they need the maximum welfare support they can get before they crack. The new govt need to invest in them. What exactly will only improve when the police start to feel loved and wanted? The vast majority of police officers would never, ever behave like this particular one did. He's a thug, who has shamed the force. Paul I was having a rational general conversation about moral in the police with Chamberlin, our conversations don’t all have to be about this case you know. I will however give you a scenario from the case In Manchester to explain my point. There’s a female officer a couple of days ago who’s probably gone home to her family after being in A and E for hours having been badly assaulted by some scumbag who’s punched her in the face. No doubt she’s arrived at home, upset and in considerable pain having finished late having had to write a statement about the days events. Her anxiety raised further by seeing her family and loved ones upset due to seeing her face battered and bruised. She’s then probably sat down and switched on the news / social media etc only to read about her colleagues actions with not a report or care for her welfare from those reporting. She’s then read about the individual that assaulted her being lauded as some sort of martyr / victim by his crooked lawyer when he was the one who battered her and her colleagues and put her in hospital. If that was you or a loved one how would your feelings be ? I’m pretty sure that there’s officers all over the country that work there guts out every shift doing some great work and no doubt save lives and arrest the bad guys whilst being assaulted on numerous occasions to keep people like you and I safe. For what? To be told on social media or mainstream media that they’re scum, all the same, racists with never a positive word for all the great stuff they do. That’s what I meant when I said they need to feel loved and appreciated. Of course there are bad cops and some that make mistakes when there feelings get the better of them but there needs to be focus on the good ones one too (which rarely happens). I’m sure there’s plenty out there that won’t condone the brothers because it’s easier to make it all about the officer. |
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 0:31:51 GMT
He didn't though did he? So his training worked Good grief knype. So you don't think that booting someone in the head at full force and then immediately stamping on their head, had the potential to do the same damage as shooting a person in the head? His training DID NOT work, that's the very point. And as a result, he is going to lose his job and almost certainly go to jail. I'd say shooting someone in the head is a but different to kicking them. I know it feeds into your argument and all but let's not play daft fuckers. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2024 0:33:00 GMT
What exactly will only improve when the police start to feel loved and wanted? The vast majority of police officers would never, ever behave like this particular one did. He's a thug, who has shamed the force. Paul I was having a rational general conversation about moral in the police with Chamberlin, our conversations don’t all have to be about this case you know. I will however give you a scenario from the case In Manchester to explain my point. There’s a female officer a couple of days ago who’s probably gone home to her family after being in A and E for hours having been badly assaulted by some scumbag who’s punched her in the face. No doubt she’s arrived at home, upset and in considerable pain having finished late having had to write a statement about the days events. Her anxiety raised further by seeing her family and loved ones upset due to seeing her face battered and bruised. She’s then probably sat down and switched on the news / social media etc only to read about her colleagues actions with not a report or care for her welfare from those reporting. She’s then read about the individual that assaulted her being lauded as some sort of martyr / victim by his crooked lawyer when he was the one who battered her and her colleagues and put her in hospital. If that was you or a loved one how would your feelings be ? I’m pretty sure that there’s officers all over the country that work there guts out every shift doing some great work and no doubt save lives and arrest the bad guys whilst being assaulted on numerous occasions to keep people like you and I safe. For what? To be told on social media or mainstream media that they’re scum, all the same, racists with never a positive word for all the great stuff they do. That’s what I meant when I said they need to feel loved and appreciated. Of course there are bad cops and some that make mistakes when there feelings get the better of them but there needs to be focus on the good ones one too (which rarely happens). I’m sure there’s plenty out there that won’t condone the brothers because it’s easier to make it all about the officer.
Do you mean, won't condemn the brothers rather than condone?
It's nothing about it being 'easier', it is all about the officer.
If he hadn't done what he did, we wouldn't even know about an incident at Manchester airport between the police and a couple of scrotes during the week.
I'm sure villains resist arrest all the time but we don't ever get to hear about it because the police involved don't massively overstep their powers.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2024 0:34:32 GMT
Good grief knype. So you don't think that booting someone in the head at full force and then immediately stamping on their head, had the potential to do the same damage as shooting a person in the head? His training DID NOT work, that's the very point. And as a result, he is going to lose his job and almost certainly go to jail. I'd say shooting someone in the head is a but different to kicking them. I know it feeds into your argument and all but let's not play daft fuckers.
So you don't think that booting someone in the head at full force and the immediately stamping on their head has the potential to kill them?
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 0:36:51 GMT
We already had the Cat1 response extraordinaire in RedWhiteAndBlue dishing out world class policing advice last night.
Now it turns out... as expected... they were are bunch of absolute abhorrent scum.. the yarn needs woven further to fit the left agenda.
They acted like absolute scum, deserved to be treated like so called and hopefully they go prison for a long time.
I hope the copper gets a slap on the wrist and is back on the force at the earliest.
The only ones complaining about heavy handed police should be the ones who are potentially in the way of it. Not some snow flakes in an ivory tower.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 0:37:34 GMT
I'd say shooting someone in the head is a but different to kicking them. I know it feeds into your argument and all but let's not play daft fuckers.
So you don't think that booting someone in the head at full force and the immediately stamping on their head has the potential to kill them?
Not quite the same as a bullet no. Obviously not. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 28, 2024 0:38:13 GMT
As I've said I don't condone the stamp , but non of us know the pressures the police face.They are human beings after all. They are. I think the problem at the moment is they probably feel very unloved. There’s a lot of negativity around them. Some of it deserved some of it not. The problem is in the case of the media they’ll only print negative stories and never put any positive ones to address the balance. (There’s plenty to choose from). It’s a bloody tough job and there’s some great officers about. For me things will only improve when they begin to feel loved and wanted. Then moral will go up and I’m sure reflect in the way they operate. As you say they are human beings and not robots and with the amount of trauma they deal with on a daily basis they need the maximum welfare support they can get before they crack. The new govt need to invest in them. Good coppers must show that they are determined to do everything they possibly can to discipline the bad coppers. The public still feel that the police force will do anything it can to to excuse the actions of, and protect, officers who believe they can break the law with impunity. We want police officers to be special. We want to respect police officers for their honesty and decency. One bad copper can ruin the reputation of all coppers; that may not be fair but it’s true. When a social worker makes the wrong decision in a child protection case, it affects the reputation of all social workers. When a copper stamps on a prone man’s head it affects the reputation of all coppers. The police must show itself to be better than those members of the public who choose to break the law. If they are only as good as the rest of us, or as good as thugs who attack people in airports, they won’t get, or deserve the love of the public they are there to serve. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2024 0:39:45 GMT
So you don't think that booting someone in the head at full force and the immediately stamping on their head has the potential to kill them?
Not quite the same as a bullet no. Obviously not.
When you're dead mate, you're dead, it doesn't matter if you were shot or had your head brutally stamped on.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 0:43:11 GMT
Not quite the same as a bullet no. Obviously not.
When you're dead mate, you're dead, it doesn't matter if you were shot or had your head brutally stamped on.
It annoys me to even have to argue something as stupid as this but... Getting shot in the head... with a gun! Is a million times different from getting kicked in the head. |
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Post by roylandstoke on Jul 28, 2024 0:50:19 GMT
When you're dead mate, you're dead, it doesn't matter if you were shot or had your head brutally stamped on.
It annoys me to even have to argue something as stupid as this but... Getting shot in the head... with a gun! Is a million times different from getting kicked in the head. What if the headshot just nicks you on the ear, but the head kick kills you, or leaves you in a brain dead vegetative state hooked up to life support? |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2024 0:50:45 GMT
When you're dead mate, you're dead, it doesn't matter if you were shot or had your head brutally stamped on.
It annoys me to even have to argue something as stupid as this but... Getting shot in the head... with a gun! Is a million times different from getting kicked in the head.
Believe you me, it annoys me, just as much.
If you don't believe that that kicking somebody extremely hard in the head and then immediately stamping on their head, can kill a person, then I think you are extremely naive.
Just because it isn't guaranteed, it doesn't then mean it's not as bad as shooting somebody.
The copper doesn't know that the result of his actions, won't mean the death of the victim when he carries them out. That's the important part you don't seem to be grasping.
If the lad was lying in a coma now and the doctors didn't know if he was going to make it, you'd be okay with that too, I'm guessing?
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 0:53:48 GMT
It annoys me to even have to argue something as stupid as this but... Getting shot in the head... with a gun! Is a million times different from getting kicked in the head. What if the headshot just nicks you on the ear, but the head kick kills you, or leaves you in a brain dead vegetative state hooked up to life support? Yeah to be fair I'd take a bullet that misses. But I'm not on about a Bullet that misses, clearly. A bullet that hits you square in the face like a kick is 100% likely to kill you. A kick might be about 2%. Let's stop being daft. |
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 28, 2024 0:55:32 GMT
Paul I was having a rational general conversation about moral in the police with Chamberlin, our conversations don’t all have to be about this case you know. I will however give you a scenario from the case In Manchester to explain my point. There’s a female officer a couple of days ago who’s probably gone home to her family after being in A and E for hours having been badly assaulted by some scumbag who’s punched her in the face. No doubt she’s arrived at home, upset and in considerable pain having finished late having had to write a statement about the days events. Her anxiety raised further by seeing her family and loved ones upset due to seeing her face battered and bruised. She’s then probably sat down and switched on the news / social media etc only to read about her colleagues actions with not a report or care for her welfare from those reporting. She’s then read about the individual that assaulted her being lauded as some sort of martyr / victim by his crooked lawyer when he was the one who battered her and her colleagues and put her in hospital. If that was you or a loved one how would your feelings be ? I’m pretty sure that there’s officers all over the country that work there guts out every shift doing some great work and no doubt save lives and arrest the bad guys whilst being assaulted on numerous occasions to keep people like you and I safe. For what? To be told on social media or mainstream media that they’re scum, all the same, racists with never a positive word for all the great stuff they do. That’s what I meant when I said they need to feel loved and appreciated. Of course there are bad cops and some that make mistakes when there feelings get the better of them but there needs to be focus on the good ones one too (which rarely happens). I’m sure there’s plenty out there that won’t condone the brothers because it’s easier to make it all about the officer. Do you mean, won't condemn the brothers rather than condone? It's nothing about it being 'easier', it is all about the officer. If he hadn't done what he did, we wouldn't even know about an incident at Manchester airport between the police and a couple of scrotes during the week. I'm sure villains resist arrest all the time but we don't ever get to hear about it because the police involved don't massively overstep their powers. So are we going back and away from my response re the original point re police moral and the female officer scenario then? In relation to the incident in question they’ve way superseded resisting arrest and gone straight to assault of an emergency worker and possibly GBH if the officers nose won’t repair. It’s possibly one of the most violent responses I’ve ever seen. I’m pretty sure that the powers you’re talking about re the officer were way after the initial incident so had little impact on the 2 brothers from what I could see. The officers that dealt with them initially didn’t appear to be abusing their powers. What were your thoughts re the brothers response to them? What consequences do you think they should receive as clearly the 2 parts of the incident will be dealt with seperately. He could have killed the female officer with that punch. |
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 0:59:53 GMT
It annoys me to even have to argue something as stupid as this but... Getting shot in the head... with a gun! Is a million times different from getting kicked in the head.
Believe you me, it annoys me, just as much.
If you don't believe that that kicking somebody extremely hard in the head and then immediately stamping on their head, can kill a person, then I think you are extremely naive.
Just because it isn't guaranteed, it doesn't then mean it's not as bad as shooting somebody.
The copper doesn't know that the result of his actions, won't mean the death of the victim when he carries them out. That's the important part you don't seem to be grasping.
If the lad was lying in a coma now and the doctors didn't know if he was going to make it, you'd be okay with that too, I'm guessing?
Yeah add in tickling someone with a Jasmine Vine and getting severe hay fever that causes you to sneeze to death. Outcomes maybe the same but for the sake of winning an argument stop pretending kicking someone is the same as shooting someone.. it isn't. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2024 1:04:19 GMT
Do you mean, won't condemn the brothers rather than condone? It's nothing about it being 'easier', it is all about the officer. If he hadn't done what he did, we wouldn't even know about an incident at Manchester airport between the police and a couple of scrotes during the week. I'm sure villains resist arrest all the time but we don't ever get to hear about it because the police involved don't massively overstep their powers. So are we going back and away from my response re the original point re police moral and the female officer scenario then? In relation to the incident in question they’ve way superseded resisting arrest and gone straight to assault of an emergency worker and possibly GBH if the officers nose won’t repair. It’s possibly one of the most violent responses I’ve ever seen. I’m pretty sure that the powers you’re talking about re the officer were way after the initial incident so had little impact on the 2 brothers from what I could see. The officers that dealt with them initially didn’t appear to be abusing their powers. What were your thoughts re the brothers response to them? What consequences do you think they should receive as clearly the 2 parts of the incident will be dealt with seperately. He could have killed the female officer with that punch.
I literally responded to the last point you made.
The overstepping of his powers, is the copper kicking and stamping on the lad's head.
What consequences do I think they should receive? I don't know what the going rate is for attacking the police, do you? Whatever the court decides.
What I do know, is that the going rate for attacking the police, is not having your head stamped on.
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 1:07:47 GMT
So are we going back and away from my response re the original point re police moral and the female officer scenario then? In relation to the incident in question they’ve way superseded resisting arrest and gone straight to assault of an emergency worker and possibly GBH if the officers nose won’t repair. It’s possibly one of the most violent responses I’ve ever seen. I’m pretty sure that the powers you’re talking about re the officer were way after the initial incident so had little impact on the 2 brothers from what I could see. The officers that dealt with them initially didn’t appear to be abusing their powers. What were your thoughts re the brothers response to them? What consequences do you think they should receive as clearly the 2 parts of the incident will be dealt with seperately. He could have killed the female officer with that punch.
I literally responded to the last point you made.
The overstepping of his powers, is the copper kicking and stamping on the lad's head.
What consequences do I think they should receive? I don't know what the going rate is for attacking the police, do you? Whatever the court decides.
What I do know, is that the going rate for attacking the police, is not having your head stamped on.
Genuinely why are you happy with people attacking police? As you say you don't what the going rate is? You obviously don't seem to care? Shoes on the other foot, and bam, a kick in the head is as bad a Bullet. Strange strange outlook on life. |
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 28, 2024 1:09:09 GMT
Believe you me, it annoys me, just as much.
If you don't believe that that kicking somebody extremely hard in the head and then immediately stamping on their head, can kill a person, then I think you are extremely naive.
Just because it isn't guaranteed, it doesn't then mean it's not as bad as shooting somebody.
The copper doesn't know that the result of his actions, won't mean the death of the victim when he carries them out. That's the important part you don't seem to be grasping.
If the lad was lying in a coma now and the doctors didn't know if he was going to make it, you'd be okay with that too, I'm guessing?
Yeah add in tickling someone with a Jasmine Vine and getting severe hay fever that causes you to sneeze to death. Outcomes maybe the same but for the sake of winning an argument stop pretending kicking someone is the same as shooting someone.. it isn't.
Yet another one, who can't sustain a credible discussion and ultimately has to resort to ridicule.
Sigh ...
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Post by emretezzy on Jul 28, 2024 1:10:14 GMT
Yeah add in tickling someone with a Jasmine Vine and getting severe hay fever that causes you to sneeze to death. Outcomes maybe the same but for the sake of winning an argument stop pretending kicking someone is the same as shooting someone.. it isn't.
Yet another one, who can't sustain a credible discussion and ultimately has to resort to ridicule.
Sigh ...
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 28, 2024 1:11:30 GMT
So are we going back and away from my response re the original point re police moral and the female officer scenario then? In relation to the incident in question they’ve way superseded resisting arrest and gone straight to assault of an emergency worker and possibly GBH if the officers nose won’t repair. It’s possibly one of the most violent responses I’ve ever seen. I’m pretty sure that the powers you’re talking about re the officer were way after the initial incident so had little impact on the 2 brothers from what I could see. The officers that dealt with them initially didn’t appear to be abusing their powers. What were your thoughts re the brothers response to them? What consequences do you think they should receive as clearly the 2 parts of the incident will be dealt with seperately. He could have killed the female officer with that punch. I literally responded to the last point you made. The overstepping of his powers, is the copper kicking and stamping on the lad's head. What consequences do I think they should receive? I don't know what the going rate is for attacking the police, do you? Whatever the court decides.
What I do know, is that the going rate for attacking the police, is not having your head stamped on.
Prior to the incident with the officer stamping. Do you think the brother could have killed the female officer with his cheap shot ? |
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