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Post by iancransonsknees on Jul 26, 2024 6:28:49 GMT
I suspect Home Bargains are out of boxes of man sized tissues too. You been down to get some for your life size Jezza poster? I absolutely adore how petty and childish this place is. It reminds me I'm not the only middle aged juvenile.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 26, 2024 6:39:10 GMT
I suspect Home Bargains are out of boxes of man sized tissues too. That's because there's a lot of wanking going on since Labour formed a government. Nope...I was commenting on the massive Gammon rage wanking as you well know.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 26, 2024 6:40:13 GMT
I suspect Home Bargains are out of boxes of man sized tissues too. You been down to get some for your life size Jezza poster? Nope.
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Post by Davef on Jul 26, 2024 6:53:49 GMT
You been down to get some for your life size Jezza poster? I absolutely adore how petty and childish this place is. It reminds me I'm not the only middle aged juvenile. Saw the Middle Aged Juveniles supporting World of Twist. Great band.
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Post by mrnovember on Jul 26, 2024 7:04:44 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 26, 2024 7:15:03 GMT
He should be arrested for slander
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Post by mrnovember on Jul 26, 2024 7:19:56 GMT
He should be arrested for slander It could turn out to be true and perhaps he meant that the incident was sparked by racism, but unless he's has evidence whats the point in dropping this bomb now? Unless of course you want to fan the flames.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 26, 2024 7:41:12 GMT
He should be arrested for slander It could turn out to be true and perhaps he meant that the incident was sparked by racism, but unless he's has evidence whats the point in dropping this bomb now? Unless of course you want to fan the flames. Like several pages of equally ill-informed opinion and complete speculation have done on here, you mean? And before anybody stupid points it out - yes, I know this is just a Stoke City messageboard that no-one involved reads! The principle is precisely the same, however.
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Post by Gods on Jul 26, 2024 7:48:07 GMT
Burnham very cagey, not yet willing to outright condemn.
I guess he has had some visibility of other footage from the officers Web cams. Say someone tried to take the gun from the poor lady who got her nose squashed does that change anything? It would certainly up the ante. But it would not fundamentally change what we have seen which is a man pinned to the ground getting his head kicked and stamped on.
I appreciate Burnham walks a fine line between the community and the GMP. Needs both on side.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 26, 2024 7:54:52 GMT
Apparently all this kicked off at Manchester airport because they wanted to search the Muslim woman but the men intervened and said such a search would be against her religion🙄🤷♂️ Everyone who travels through an airport know they have to be searched whoever they are in this day and age
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 26, 2024 7:57:25 GMT
He should be arrested for slander It could turn out to be true and perhaps he meant that the incident was sparked by racism, but unless he's has evidence whats the point in dropping this bomb now? Unless of course you want to fan the flames. There’s no evidence whatsoever that it was a Police response based on racism. It wasn’t a targeted stop, officers were responding to a fast time incident where they were called to a fight involving those males in the video. The only people that know whether the incident was racially motivated are the officers that attended and unless the reporter has spoken to them personally he needs to be very careful what he’s saying and what he’s accusing people of. He needs to be challenged around his wording by someone senior either in the government or GMP and asked what evidence he has to come to the conclusion he has. People are way to quick to use the word “racist” nowadays when having discussions or writing reports. The words frequently weaponised to kill arguments / discussions which is unhealthy. Of course there’s a place where it’s very relevant and clear but it’s an incredibly offensive word to use to describe someone when they’re not racist. Not everyone on the centre / right is racist and we need to get over that thinking or else healthy discussions won’t happen. It’s the same around the use of the word “2 tier policing.” It all muddies the waters and causes people to overthink.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 26, 2024 8:00:34 GMT
Apparently all this kicked off at Manchester airport because they wanted to search the Muslim woman but the men intervened and said such a search would be against her religion🙄🤷♂️ Everyone who travels through an airport know they have to be searched whoever they are in this day and age And off we go again... I heard it was all part of a game that the police play: brutality snooker. He was on the brown. Although another source said the floor was wet and the officer slipped and trying to regain his balance accidentally kicked the bloke in the head. On Twitter apparently the guy on the floor said he couldn't afford to go to the dentist to get his rotten tooth removed and asked the policeman if he would oblige. Act of charity, really.
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Post by sticky on Jul 26, 2024 8:43:57 GMT
Just heard the lawyer representing the gentlemen involved. Pretty much saying they did nothing wrong, but had no answer for the woman’s nose being broke🤔 all very odd. No doubt it’ll all unravel. No wonder people speculate all the time, what was the outcome of the Leeds “incidents”? Seems a while ago now that does
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Post by wannabee on Jul 26, 2024 9:20:14 GMT
You do realise I presume that is three Brothers, the Brother on the left is the one whose head was kicked, the Brother on the right is the one who was beaten about the head and back by the same Police Officer and the oldest Brither (i think) is in the middle is a serving Police Officer with GMP All very amusing for sure Which one broke the female officer's nose? I'm obviously not condoning the firearms officers assaulting them, but you do get the feeling that this family think they are going to get away with hospitalising three members of the emergency services. And what has the fact that they're related to a current serving officer got to do with anything? If it was either of the two brothers or one of the two other people arrested they should be subjected to the full rigours of the law and charged with GBH, I have said that from way back Naively I expect a higher standard of behaviour from our Police Force that they should uphold the Law not break the Law when there is no current threat to themselves. If the British Public are now saying the Police Force should be allowed to behave like vigilantes and meet out physical retribution we are going down a very dangerous road for the Public and for the Police themselves. The fact that one brother is a serving Police Officer should have no bearing under the law I just felt it was trivislising the whole episode and not just the video we saw, perhaps I overreacted. To further endorse that serving Police Officers or their families are not above the Law anything less than a charge of GBH against the Firearms Officer would be unacceptable. Way back when I suggested a charge of GBH against those responsible for injuring the Police Officers but left open what charge the Firearms Officer might face. Cobham helpfully supplied that it depends on the severity of the injury I would think most people would agree inflicting a Brain Injury would qualify for GBH
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 26, 2024 9:43:16 GMT
Which one broke the female officer's nose? I'm obviously not condoning the firearms officers assaulting them, but you do get the feeling that this family think they are going to get away with hospitalising three members of the emergency services. And what has the fact that they're related to a current serving officer got to do with anything? If it was either of the two brothers or one of the two other people arrested they should be subjected to the full rigours of the law and charged with GBH, I have said that from way back Naively I expect a higher standard of behaviour from our Police Force that they should uphold the Law not break the Law when there is no current threat to themselves. If the British Public are now saying the Police Force should be allowed to behave like vigilantes and meet out physical retribution we are going down a very dangerous road for the Public and for the Police themselves. The fact that one brother is a serving Police Officer should have no bearing under the law I just felt it was trivislising the whole episode and not just the video we saw, perhaps I overreacted. To further endorse that serving Police Officers or their families are not above the Law anything less than a charge of GBH against the Firearms Officer would be unacceptable. Way back when I suggested a charge of GBH against those responsible for injuring the Police Officers but left open what charge the Firearms Officer might face. Cobham helpfully supplied that it depends on the severity of the injury I would think most people would agree inflicting a Brain Injury would qualify for GBH A fair post though obviously they will need to prove that the injury is caused by the blow. From reading up on it it’s not impossible however usually brain cysts are longer term. I’m amazed that if they’re caused by trauma to the head there’s not more in sport and in particular rugby and in the NFL. I’m not sure as to how common it is for a cyst to be caused by injury but that’s something for the lawyers to deter.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 26, 2024 9:43:30 GMT
[/quote]Apologies, I didn't realise who they were. I consider myself suitably reprimanded.
Edit: Jesus, what a lovely fellow their solicitor is 😬😳 [/quote]
I apologise if I overreacted but I find this whole episode highly depressing and it should be a relatively straightforward matter of punishing those that break the law whoever they are.
I'm not going to repeat what I just replied to Davef but it equally applies in replying to yourself
I completely agree with you the brothers solicitor is a complete arsehole, I had occasion to call him such on a different thread when others were defending him simply because of his links to WPofGB
He is prone to using the race card when none exist and I believe he is still under investigation for this by the Solicitors Council
The IOPC terms of reference include investigation if there was a racial motivation there is no need for the clown to reach premature conclusions
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Post by gawa on Jul 26, 2024 9:57:07 GMT
Good to see this arsehole getting community noted. Paul Golding another one bankrolled to create division and lie on social media. Using old pictures from years ago to spread lies and fuel division. Arsehole.
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Post by gawa on Jul 26, 2024 10:05:01 GMT
I completely agree with you the brothers solicitor is a complete arsehole, I had occasion to call him such on a different thread when others were defending him simply because of his links to WPofGBHe is prone to using the race card when none exist and I believe he is still under investigation for this by the Solicitors Council How is Akhmed Yakoob linked to the Workers Party wannabee? The same Akhmed Yakoob hoping to potentially contest a by election seat in Hodge Hill against the workers party which lost by just over 1000 votes.
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Post by starkiller on Jul 26, 2024 10:07:23 GMT
It may astound people in internet fantasy land but some things have nothing to do with race, or the shitty left/right politics illusion.
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Post by Eggybread on Jul 26, 2024 10:08:59 GMT
Good to see this arsehole getting community noted. Paul Golding another one bankrolled to create division and lie on social media. Using old pictures from years ago to spread lies and fuel division. Arsehole. "Broken by the muslims" What an utterly vile and depressing comment.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 26, 2024 10:11:17 GMT
Good to see this arsehole getting community noted. Paul Golding another one bankrolled to create division and lie on social media. Using old pictures from years ago to spread lies and fuel division. Arsehole. Couldn’t agree more it’s idiots like him and those on the opposite side of the political spectrum that deliberately muddy the waters and cause confusion and stoke up anger to fuel their political views. Blatant lying is just a part of it. To be fair it’s not even just the individuals some mainstream media is just as bad. Having a bias is one thing but deliberately lying to create propaganda is another.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 26, 2024 10:15:18 GMT
Apologies, I didn't realise who they were. I consider myself suitably reprimanded. Edit: Jesus, what a lovely fellow their solicitor is 😬😳 [/quote] I apologise if I overreacted but I find this whole episode highly depressing and it should be a relatively straightforward matter of punishing those that break the law whoever they are. I'm not going to repeat what I just replied to Davef but it equally applies in replying to yourself I completely agree with you the brothers solicitor is a complete arsehole, I had occasion to call him such on a different thread when others were defending him simply because of his links to WPofGB He is prone to using the race card when none exist and I believe he is still under investigation for this by the Solicitors Council The IOPC terms of reference include investigation if there was a racial motivation there is no need for the clown to reach premature conclusions [/quote] How is he even still allowed to practice. He comes accross as someone who’s completely unprofessional with his tik toks and ramblings.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 26, 2024 10:16:04 GMT
If it was either of the two brothers or one of the two other people arrested they should be subjected to the full rigours of the law and charged with GBH, I have said that from way back Naively I expect a higher standard of behaviour from our Police Force that they should uphold the Law not break the Law when there is no current threat to themselves. If the British Public are now saying the Police Force should be allowed to behave like vigilantes and meet out physical retribution we are going down a very dangerous road for the Public and for the Police themselves. The fact that one brother is a serving Police Officer should have no bearing under the law I just felt it was trivislising the whole episode and not just the video we saw, perhaps I overreacted. To further endorse that serving Police Officers or their families are not above the Law anything less than a charge of GBH against the Firearms Officer would be unacceptable. Way back when I suggested a charge of GBH against those responsible for injuring the Police Officers but left open what charge the Firearms Officer might face. Cobham helpfully supplied that it depends on the severity of the injury I would think most people would agree inflicting a Brain Injury would qualify for GBH A fair post though obviously they will need to prove that the injury is caused by the blow. From reading up on it it’s not impossible however usually brain cysts are longer term. I’m amazed that if they’re caused by trauma to the head there’s not more in sport and in particular rugby and in the NFL. I’m not sure as to how common it is for a cyst to be caused by injury but that’s something for the lawyers to deter. Amazing how informative the Oatcake can be but in reply to Knype posing the same question as to how it can be proved the Brain Cyst was caused by Blunt Force Trauma I did some research myself and provided a link It is unusual that head injuries cause Arachnoid Cysts but when they occur they are usually caused by head injury. There are other types of Brain Cyst's which may form and can be congenital or cancerous and this may be the cause of misunderstanding Being pedantic it will be Medical Testimony based on CT Scans and prognosis which the lawyers will debate.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 26, 2024 10:21:48 GMT
Good to see this arsehole getting community noted. Paul Golding another one bankrolled to create division and lie on social media. Using old pictures from years ago to spread lies and fuel division. Arsehole. Racist wanker Golding deserves all the pelts.
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Post by wannabee on Jul 26, 2024 10:26:24 GMT
I completely agree with you the brothers solicitor is a complete arsehole, I had occasion to call him such on a different thread when others were defending him simply because of his links to WPofGBHe is prone to using the race card when none exist and I believe he is still under investigation for this by the Solicitors Council How is Akhmed Yakoob linked to the Workers Party wannabee? The same Akhmed Yakoob hoping to potentially contest a by election seat in Hodge Hill against the workers party which lost by just over 1000 votes. I'm sure you correct Gawa probably Ahmed and George hardly know each other
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Post by gawa on Jul 26, 2024 10:29:44 GMT
How is Akhmed Yakoob linked to the Workers Party wannabee? The same Akhmed Yakoob hoping to potentially contest a by election seat in Hodge Hill against the workers party which lost by just over 1000 votes. I'm sure you correct Gawa probably Ahmed and George hardly know each other View AttachmentDoesn't mean he is associated with workers party. I think you should correct the record on that. You know what I'll correct it myself. He is endorsed by George Galloway who is leader of WPB. But he has certainly never been a member nor a candidate of the party as far as I'm aware. Whether that warrants "assosciated" then who knows. But then you could claim Faiza, Leanne Mahmood and others are associated simply through George endorsing them. Tweets like this is what's maybe given you that impression. But as far as I'm aware (maybe something has since changed) he isn't a candidate or member and hasn't been. I'll not take this further off topic as it isn't relevant in grand scheme of things to the topic.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 26, 2024 10:33:01 GMT
Good to see this arsehole getting community noted. Paul Golding another one bankrolled to create division and lie on social media. Using old pictures from years ago to spread lies and fuel division. Arsehole. Wait, a prominent member of society is using Twitter to promote division? What a shock. It’s a cesspit.
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Post by themistocles on Jul 26, 2024 10:33:41 GMT
That's because there's a lot of wanking going on since Labour formed a government. Nope...I was commenting on the massive Gammon rage wanking as you well know. "Gammon" is a racists term. You need to apologise.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 26, 2024 10:33:56 GMT
How is Akhmed Yakoob linked to the Workers Party wannabee? The same Akhmed Yakoob hoping to potentially contest a by election seat in Hodge Hill against the workers party which lost by just over 1000 votes. I'm sure you correct Gawa probably Ahmed and George hardly know each other View AttachmentHis mask slips towards the end of this interview
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Post by wannabee on Jul 26, 2024 10:36:21 GMT
I'm sure you correct Gawa probably Ahmed and George hardly know each other View AttachmentDoesn't mean he is associated with workers party. I think you should correct the record on that. I said he had "Links" to the WPofGB nothing to correct, it's an accurate statement You really should be more careful when you read something before commenting
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