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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 17, 2022 9:47:34 GMT
They get a lot of stick some of it merited but well done to the officers. Sounds like they may have saved a few lives during the crush.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 17, 2022 21:36:31 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2022 22:42:41 GMT
They get a lot of stick some of it merited but well done to the officers. Sounds like they may have saved a few lives during the crush. By way of balance ...
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 17, 2022 23:11:37 GMT
They get a lot of stick some of it merited but well done to the officers. Sounds like they may have saved a few lives during the crush. By way of balance ... Can you imagine what would have happened if the officers had waved the 3000 without tickets into the O2. I’d imagine sadly there’d have been many more fatalities. Without doubt the officers force in the video is excessive but it appears to be a very difficult situation and clearly the females trying to force her way into the venue where people are getting crushed. There’s no doubt that there are times when police deserve criticism but this for me isn’t one of them. What would you have done off hand Paul? Let them in? Despite people being crushed inside. Reading the various twitter feeds it’s amazing how desperate the press are to get the negative stories from the event rather than the stories of heroism like the officers giving CPR and putting there necks on the line. I think that tells you all you need to know about your “balanced” reporting.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 17, 2022 23:27:38 GMT
Can you imagine what would have happened if the officers had waved the 3000 without tickets into the O2. I’d imagine sadly there’d have been many more fatalities. Without doubt the officers force in the video is excessive but it appears to be a very difficult situation and clearly the females trying to force her way into the venue where people are getting crushed. There’s no doubt that there are times when police deserve criticism but this for me isn’t one of them. What would you have done off hand Paul? Let them in? Despite people being crushed inside. Reading the various twitter feeds it’s amazing how desperate the press are to get the negative stories from the event rather than the stories of heroism like the officers giving CPR and putting there necks on the line. I think that tells you all you need to know about your “balanced” reporting. About as desperate as you to highlight every negative story about the city of London on the other thread to be fair. You’re either using the “a few bad apples” defence or you’re not…….
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 17, 2022 23:31:37 GMT
Can you imagine what would have happened if the officers had waved the 3000 without tickets into the O2. I’d imagine sadly there’d have been many more fatalities. Without doubt the officers force in the video is excessive but it appears to be a very difficult situation and clearly the females trying to force her way into the venue where people are getting crushed. There’s no doubt that there are times when police deserve criticism but this for me isn’t one of them. What would you have done off hand Paul? Let them in? Despite people being crushed inside. Reading the various twitter feeds it’s amazing how desperate the press are to get the negative stories from the event rather than the stories of heroism like the officers giving CPR and putting there necks on the line. I think that tells you all you need to know about your “balanced” reporting. Totally different. Mines an opinion they have far more impact and peddle stories to the masses.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 17, 2022 23:49:06 GMT
Can you imagine what would have happened if the officers had waved the 3000 without tickets into the O2. I’d imagine sadly there’d have been many more fatalities. Without doubt the officers force in the video is excessive but it appears to be a very difficult situation and clearly the females trying to force her way into the venue where people are getting crushed. There’s no doubt that there are times when police deserve criticism but this for me isn’t one of them. What would you have done off hand Paul? Let them in? Despite people being crushed inside. Reading the various twitter feeds it’s amazing how desperate the press are to get the negative stories from the event rather than the stories of heroism like the officers giving CPR and putting there necks on the line. I think that tells you all you need to know about your “balanced” reporting. I saw the footage of the copper throwing the girl down the stairs way before you posted on this thread about the crush outside. But did I rush to post it on the Oatcake? No, because i don't have a particular agenda and understand that there's always two sides to every story. You, however, appear to want just one narrative represented and it is this, that prompted me to post the footage, simply out of fairness and balance. I wouldn't have posted it at all otherwise. As for the specific incident, I don't expect police officers to throw people down concrete steps, head first. Neither you or he, knew what her individual circumstances were and to tell you the truth, it doesn't actually matter, he could have split her head open and I'll be surprised if he's been in uniform the last few days. And in this specific video, people AREN'T getting crushed at all, the two incidents are separate and it's been widely reported that people WITH tickets didn't get in. The police were dragged into a terrible situation created by poor organisation by the promoters, woefully inadequate security and a determination by some punters to force entry into the venue but that doesn't mean that every policeman on duty acted professionally when faced with such challenges. As I said, I'm just offering some balance.
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Post by knype on Dec 18, 2022 3:00:42 GMT
Can you imagine what would have happened if the officers had waved the 3000 without tickets into the O2. I’d imagine sadly there’d have been many more fatalities. Without doubt the officers force in the video is excessive but it appears to be a very difficult situation and clearly the females trying to force her way into the venue where people are getting crushed. There’s no doubt that there are times when police deserve criticism but this for me isn’t one of them. What would you have done off hand Paul? Let them in? Despite people being crushed inside. Reading the various twitter feeds it’s amazing how desperate the press are to get the negative stories from the event rather than the stories of heroism like the officers giving CPR and putting there necks on the line. I think that tells you all you need to know about your “balanced” reporting. About as desperate as you to highlight every negative story about the city of London on the other thread to be fair. You’re either using the “a few bad apples” defence or you’re not……. I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 18, 2022 7:09:30 GMT
About as desperate as you to highlight every negative story about the city of London on the other thread to be fair. You’re either using the “a few bad apples” defence or you’re not……. I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done I’m not sure what “you and yours” means?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 18, 2022 8:48:50 GMT
About as desperate as you to highlight every negative story about the city of London on the other thread to be fair. You’re either using the “a few bad apples” defence or you’re not……. I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done For me I just find it a bit strange that a poster feels that they need to “balance” some very brave and selfless acts out where numerous peoples lives were saved by officers by posting a video of an officer throwing some one out because they were potentially going to make a life threatening situation (which is proven) even worse, without them having an agenda. I don’t see why they can’t be just be satisfied with acknowledging the positives from what they’d done. The police get plenty wrong but I think it’s a shame that some are unable to give credit when it’s due without wanting to post negatives.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Dec 18, 2022 11:28:56 GMT
I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done I’m not sure what “you and yours” means? Neither does he.....
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Post by knype on Dec 18, 2022 12:29:08 GMT
I’m not sure what “you and yours” means? Neither does he..... Oh I certainly do Huddy
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 19, 2022 8:52:11 GMT
I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done For me I just find it a bit strange that a poster feels that they need to “balance” some very brave and selfless acts out where numerous peoples lives were saved by officers by posting a video of an officer throwing some one out because they were potentially going to make a life threatening situation (which is proven) even worse, without them having an agenda. I don’t see why they can’t be just be satisfied with acknowledging the positives from what they’d done. The police get plenty wrong but I think it’s a shame that some are unable to give credit when it’s due without wanting to post negatives. Oh the irony, given your one-sided contribution to the London thread
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 19, 2022 8:57:52 GMT
For me I just find it a bit strange that a poster feels that they need to “balance” some very brave and selfless acts out where numerous peoples lives were saved by officers by posting a video of an officer throwing some one out because they were potentially going to make a life threatening situation (which is proven) even worse, without them having an agenda. I don’t see why they can’t be just be satisfied with acknowledging the positives from what they’d done. The police get plenty wrong but I think it’s a shame that some are unable to give credit when it’s due without wanting to post negatives. Oh the irony, given your one-sided contribution to the London thread You agree then? That’s good.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Dec 19, 2022 9:08:58 GMT
Oh the irony, given your one-sided contribution to the London thread You agree then? That’s good. I agree that you're exactly as described by yourself above Out of interest, why do you post endless numbers of articles about deaths, stabbings etc in London? You talk about expecting balance from others but, on that thread at least, you're one of the worst 'offenders' of all. You live in Cobham (I assume) which is not far from London (might even be part of it for all I know), you've said you never see a whiff of trouble and every post is the same: a death and destruction story! Is it simply that you hate Sadiq Khan and want to make it look like 'his' London is an out of control hellhole?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 19, 2022 11:13:00 GMT
You agree then? That’s good. I agree that you're exactly as described by yourself above Out of interest, why do you post endless numbers of articles about deaths, stabbings etc in London? You talk about expecting balance from others but, on that thread at least, you're one of the worst 'offenders' of all. You live in Cobham (I assume) which is not far from London (might even be part of it for all I know), you've said you never see a whiff of trouble and every post is the same: a death and destruction story! Is it simply that you hate Sadiq Khan and want to make it look like 'his' London is an out of control hellhole? Cobham is in Surrey and not London. I’m fortunate that on the whole it’s a nice place to live. I’ve lived and worked in London for many, many years though, though recently my trips to the smoke have been visits to see friends so I’d like to think that over the years Ive got to know the area well and have many friends who live there (Dalston, Islington, Croydon, Leyton, Bromley and Hounslow) so I get kept abreast of things. I’d say I have the right to an opinion even if you don’t agree with it. Do you live in London yourself? It’s not a personal thing re Khan. I can’t pretend to like him but then I don’t have time for many politicians. I just happen to have a different opinion about London to you and some of the others on here which I base on experience and what I’m told. Maybe I’m a little set in my ways but certainly no more than you just my opinion is different. In relation to bias my bias is no more worse than those posting on the monarchy, Government or many other threads. I’d say the frequency of my posts on the London threads are far less common than those on the government threads and are at least factual rather than some random twitter link put up 10 times a day. I’m not a fan of the Tory party either before you say and will be voting Labour in the next election as I don’t mind Starmer and something needs to change after a disastrous few years.
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Post by foster on Dec 19, 2022 11:21:59 GMT
You agree then? That’s good. I agree that you're exactly as described by yourself above Out of interest, why do you post endless numbers of articles about deaths, stabbings etc in London? You talk about expecting balance from others but, on that thread at least, you're one of the worst 'offenders' of all. You live in Cobham (I assume) which is not far from London (might even be part of it for all I know), you've said you never see a whiff of trouble and every post is the same: a death and destruction story! Is it simply that you hate Sadiq Khan and want to make it look like 'his' London is an out of control hellhole? I too find it ironic when those accusing Cobham of being one-sided are exactly the same with regards to the Met and a number of other threads on here. Isn't that what having an opinion is about? I honestly don't get why the more left-ward posters on here are also seemingly intent on always making things personal. There was someone on here accusing him of being racist in an earlier post which is bang out of order. Just stick to the topic at hand. Edit: Maybe it's because most of the real right wingers on here have left the board and those on the far left are looking for someone else to unjustly demonise.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Dec 19, 2022 11:44:02 GMT
I agree that you're exactly as described by yourself above Out of interest, why do you post endless numbers of articles about deaths, stabbings etc in London? You talk about expecting balance from others but, on that thread at least, you're one of the worst 'offenders' of all. You live in Cobham (I assume) which is not far from London (might even be part of it for all I know), you've said you never see a whiff of trouble and every post is the same: a death and destruction story! Is it simply that you hate Sadiq Khan and want to make it look like 'his' London is an out of control hellhole? I too find it ironic when those accusing Cobham of being one-sided are exactly the same with regards to the Met and a number of other threads on here. Isn't that what having an opinion is about? I honestly don't get why the more left-ward posters on here are also seemingly intent on always making things personal. There was someone on here accusing him of being racist in an earlier post which is bang out of order. Just stick to the topic at hand. Edit: Maybe it's because most of the real right wingers on here have left the board and those on the far left are looking for someone else to unjustly demonise. I agree about making it personal, we all have our moments but in general irrespective of their viewpoints the people that have being suspended/banned are the ones that don't take heed and just keep banging the same drum over and over. I was called an anti-Semite by 4 posters back in the day, 2 apologised which I was happy to accept and move on, the other 2 I did what I don't do very often and just blocked them (which I think I've done 4 times in my whole time on here since the site began). Life's too short..........
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Post by dutchstokie on Dec 19, 2022 13:08:03 GMT
I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done For me I just find it a bit strange that a poster feels that they need to “balance” some very brave and selfless acts out where numerous peoples lives were saved by officers by posting a video of an officer throwing some one out because they were potentially going to make a life threatening situation (which is proven) even worse, without them having an agenda. I don’t see why they can’t be just be satisfied with acknowledging the positives from what they’d done. The police get plenty wrong but I think it’s a shame that some are unable to give credit when it’s due without wanting to post negatives. One word - agenda.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2022 14:14:08 GMT
For me I just find it a bit strange that a poster feels that they need to “balance” some very brave and selfless acts out where numerous peoples lives were saved by officers by posting a video of an officer throwing some one out because they were potentially going to make a life threatening situation (which is proven) even worse, without them having an agenda. I don’t see why they can’t be just be satisfied with acknowledging the positives from what they’d done. The police get plenty wrong but I think it’s a shame that some are unable to give credit when it’s due without wanting to post negatives. One word - agenda. Go on ...
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Post by elystokie on Dec 19, 2022 14:17:38 GMT
I agree that you're exactly as described by yourself above Out of interest, why do you post endless numbers of articles about deaths, stabbings etc in London? You talk about expecting balance from others but, on that thread at least, you're one of the worst 'offenders' of all. You live in Cobham (I assume) which is not far from London (might even be part of it for all I know), you've said you never see a whiff of trouble and every post is the same: a death and destruction story! Is it simply that you hate Sadiq Khan and want to make it look like 'his' London is an out of control hellhole? Cobham is in Surrey and not London. I’m fortunate that on the whole it’s a nice place to live. I’ve lived and worked in London for many, many years though, though recently my trips to the smoke have been visits to see friends so I’d like to think that over the years Ive got to know the area well and have many friends who live there (Dalston, Islington, Croydon, Leyton, Bromley and Hounslow) so I get kept abreast of things. I’d say I have the right to an opinion even if you don’t agree with it. Do you live in London yourself? It’s not a personal thing re Khan. I can’t pretend to like him but then I don’t have time for many politicians. I just happen to have a different opinion about London to you and some of the others on here which I base on experience and what I’m told. Maybe I’m a little set in my ways but certainly no more than you just my opinion is different. In relation to bias my bias is no more worse than those posting on the monarchy, Government or many other threads. I’d say the frequency of my posts on the London threads are far less common than those on the government threads and are at least factual rather than some random twitter link put up 10 times a day. I’m not a fan of the Tory party either before you say and will be voting Labour in the next election as I don’t mind Starmer and something needs to change after a disastrous few years. Don't you think that your views appear somewhat inconsistent from thread to thread? On one thread the Met Police can do no wrong and yet on another the safety of the very place they're in charge of policing never seems to illicit a positive response from you. If they're doing such a good job it's somewhat puzzling to me that you continuously point out how unsafe their area is.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2022 14:26:20 GMT
I'm surprised you and yours haven't jumped all over this and blamed the government. Hats off to the police for what they've had to put up with and deal with in this instance. Such a challenging and difficult situation to attempt to control with criticism whatever they had done For me I just find it a bit strange that a poster feels that they need to “balance” some very brave and selfless acts out where numerous peoples lives were saved by officers by posting a video of an officer throwing some one out because they were potentially going to make a life threatening situation (which is proven) even worse, without them having an agenda. I don’t see why they can’t be just be satisfied with acknowledging the positives from what they’d done. The police get plenty wrong but I think it’s a shame that some are unable to give credit when it’s due without wanting to post negatives. I've only just seen this. I've already explained to you, that the two incidents are separate, the woman being thrown down the steps happened AFTER the crush had occurred, there was no crushing taking place at this time. There is now a separate investigation taking place into the actions of the copper. And I'll remind you again, that the footage of him throwing her down the steps was widely available BEFORE you posted about the crush but nobody had taken it upon themselves to unilaterally post it on here because it would have given a distorted impression of what occurred that evening. I only posted it as a result of YOUR post, so we didn't indeed end up with a distorted version of what took place. To tell you the truth, if anybody else had posted it, I probably wouldn't have bothered but as you have such a one sided habit of posting negative stories about our crime riddled capital, I thought that a bit of balance wouldn't go amiss (again).
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Post by foster on Dec 19, 2022 14:30:51 GMT
Cobham is in Surrey and not London. I’m fortunate that on the whole it’s a nice place to live. I’ve lived and worked in London for many, many years though, though recently my trips to the smoke have been visits to see friends so I’d like to think that over the years Ive got to know the area well and have many friends who live there (Dalston, Islington, Croydon, Leyton, Bromley and Hounslow) so I get kept abreast of things. I’d say I have the right to an opinion even if you don’t agree with it. Do you live in London yourself? It’s not a personal thing re Khan. I can’t pretend to like him but then I don’t have time for many politicians. I just happen to have a different opinion about London to you and some of the others on here which I base on experience and what I’m told. Maybe I’m a little set in my ways but certainly no more than you just my opinion is different. In relation to bias my bias is no more worse than those posting on the monarchy, Government or many other threads. I’d say the frequency of my posts on the London threads are far less common than those on the government threads and are at least factual rather than some random twitter link put up 10 times a day. I’m not a fan of the Tory party either before you say and will be voting Labour in the next election as I don’t mind Starmer and something needs to change after a disastrous few years. Don't you think that your views appear somewhat inconsistent from thread to thread? On one thread the Met Police can do no wrong and yet on another the safety of the very place they're in charge of policing never seems to illicit a positive response from you. If they're doing such a good job it's somewhat puzzling to me that you continuously point out how unsafe their area is. Other factors than just their individual performance contribute to the lack of safety. Your logic is flawed mate.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 19, 2022 14:38:00 GMT
Don't you think that your views appear somewhat inconsistent from thread to thread? On one thread the Met Police can do no wrong and yet on another the safety of the very place they're in charge of policing never seems to illicit a positive response from you. If they're doing such a good job it's somewhat puzzling to me that you continuously point out how unsafe their area is. Other factors than just their individual performance contribute to the lack of safety. Your logic is flawed mate. I don't doubt that other factors contribute and one of those factors is obviously going to be the Mayor, I just find it hard to understand how someone can blame one bloke for the woes of the capital, when realistically, the Met has had problems for years regardless of who the Mayor was.
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Post by knype on Dec 19, 2022 21:22:08 GMT
2nd woman now died from the crush. R.I.P to the 2 people
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 19, 2022 21:33:46 GMT
Cobham is in Surrey and not London. I’m fortunate that on the whole it’s a nice place to live. I’ve lived and worked in London for many, many years though, though recently my trips to the smoke have been visits to see friends so I’d like to think that over the years Ive got to know the area well and have many friends who live there (Dalston, Islington, Croydon, Leyton, Bromley and Hounslow) so I get kept abreast of things. I’d say I have the right to an opinion even if you don’t agree with it. Do you live in London yourself? It’s not a personal thing re Khan. I can’t pretend to like him but then I don’t have time for many politicians. I just happen to have a different opinion about London to you and some of the others on here which I base on experience and what I’m told. Maybe I’m a little set in my ways but certainly no more than you just my opinion is different. In relation to bias my bias is no more worse than those posting on the monarchy, Government or many other threads. I’d say the frequency of my posts on the London threads are far less common than those on the government threads and are at least factual rather than some random twitter link put up 10 times a day. I’m not a fan of the Tory party either before you say and will be voting Labour in the next election as I don’t mind Starmer and something needs to change after a disastrous few years. Don't you think that your views appear somewhat inconsistent from thread to thread? On one thread the Met Police can do no wrong and yet on another the safety of the very place they're in charge of policing never seems to illicit a positive response from you. If they're doing such a good job it's somewhat puzzling to me that you continuously point out how unsafe their area is. It’s called being open minded. In relation to their job it’s an impossible one where they’re never going to get things right all the time. There’s times when of course criticism is due but I do think there’s times when people find it impossible to give praise even when it’s due as proved by Paul when he tried to “balance” the lifesaving work by officers in Brixton.
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Post by elystokie on Dec 19, 2022 22:10:05 GMT
Don't you think that your views appear somewhat inconsistent from thread to thread? On one thread the Met Police can do no wrong and yet on another the safety of the very place they're in charge of policing never seems to illicit a positive response from you. If they're doing such a good job it's somewhat puzzling to me that you continuously point out how unsafe their area is. It’s called being open minded. In relation to their job it’s an impossible one where they’re never going to get things right all the time. There’s times when of course criticism is due but I do think there’s times when people find it impossible to give praise even when it’s due as proved by Paul when he tried to “balance” the lifesaving work by officers in Brixton. Yes I understand that it's an impossible job at times and I have every sympathy with them, I remain convinced that if we scrapped the drug laws and made it a medical matter rather han a criminal one their job would be far easier and the public far more willing to engage, but on that we'll have to agree to differ. I suppose it just puzzles me that your 'open' mind only extends to certain matters, I know we're all guilty of that to a degree but, whilst you readily acknowledge the weaknesses of the Met you refuse to attach any blame, instead, on a different thread London is a different picture completely and it's all one bloke's fault.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2022 22:31:37 GMT
Don't you think that your views appear somewhat inconsistent from thread to thread? On one thread the Met Police can do no wrong and yet on another the safety of the very place they're in charge of policing never seems to illicit a positive response from you. If they're doing such a good job it's somewhat puzzling to me that you continuously point out how unsafe their area is. It’s called being open minded. In relation to their job it’s an impossible one where they’re never going to get things right all the time. There’s times when of course criticism is due but I do think there’s times when people find it impossible to give praise even when it’s due as proved by Paul when he tried to “balance” the lifesaving work by officers in Brixton. I don't think you appear open minded Cobs, you repeatedly appear to have a very limited scope of opinions, your relentless (almost pathological) demonising of London is testament to this. And let's just flip this around for a moment ... Let's say it was ME who had first posted the link to the copper throwing the girl down the steps and you then posted a link showing the police in a much more positive light by way of balance to my one sided post. Don't you think it would have been perfectly legitimate for you to have done so? Of course it would have been. And don't you think I would have been behaving like a complete prick if I had attempted to belittle your reasons for doing so? Of course I would. You seem unable to comprehend that it is YOU who struggles with considering alternative opinions to yourself. I didn't in anyway personalise my original reply to you but you've now chosen to do it about me twice in your replies, to OTHER people, so I apologise for the robustness of this post but I (sadly) believe it's warranted.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Dec 19, 2022 22:50:26 GMT
It’s called being open minded. In relation to their job it’s an impossible one where they’re never going to get things right all the time. There’s times when of course criticism is due but I do think there’s times when people find it impossible to give praise even when it’s due as proved by Paul when he tried to “balance” the lifesaving work by officers in Brixton. I don't think you appear open minded Cobs, you repeatedly appear to have a very limited scope of opinions, your relentless (almost pathological) demonising of London is testament to this. And let's just flip this around for a moment ... Let's say it was ME who had first posted the link to the copper throwing the girl down the steps and you then posted a link showing the police in a much more positive light by way of balance to my one sided post. Don't you think it would have been perfectly legitimate for you to have done so? Of course it would have been. And don't you think I would have been behaving like a complete prick if I had attempted to belittle your reasons for doing so? Of course I would. You seem unable to comprehend that it is YOU who struggles with considering alternative opinions to yourself. I didn't in anyway personalise my original reply to you but you've now chosen to do it about me twice in your replies, to OTHER people, so I apologise for the robustness of this post but I (sadly) believe it's warranted. Fair enough we’ll have to agree to disagree. If you want to talk about personalising though it’s very rare that I do it and fair enough if I’ve offended you I apologise. But if you want to “balance” things out you may want to pop onto numerous threads like this and the London one if you want to see people being “targeted” and “personalised.” Maybe I’m a bit of a hypocritic but believe me there’s far worse.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Dec 19, 2022 23:11:28 GMT
I don't think you appear open minded Cobs, you repeatedly appear to have a very limited scope of opinions, your relentless (almost pathological) demonising of London is testament to this. And let's just flip this around for a moment ... Let's say it was ME who had first posted the link to the copper throwing the girl down the steps and you then posted a link showing the police in a much more positive light by way of balance to my one sided post. Don't you think it would have been perfectly legitimate for you to have done so? Of course it would have been. And don't you think I would have been behaving like a complete prick if I had attempted to belittle your reasons for doing so? Of course I would. You seem unable to comprehend that it is YOU who struggles with considering alternative opinions to yourself. I didn't in anyway personalise my original reply to you but you've now chosen to do it about me twice in your replies, to OTHER people, so I apologise for the robustness of this post but I (sadly) believe it's warranted. Fair enough we’ll have to agree to disagree. If you want to talk about personalising though it’s very rare that I do it and fair enough if I’ve offended you I apologise. But if you want to “balance” things out you may want to pop onto numerous threads like this and the London one if you want to see people being “targeted” and “personalised.” Maybe I’m a bit of a hypocritic but believe me there’s far worse. To be honest you haven't offended me at all and there is no need to apologise, although it is appreciated. I was aware that my first paragraph in the post was very personalised and I was explaining why I had made it so, it's not something that ordinarily (like you) I would normally resort to.
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