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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:23:39 GMT
Ah right, so rather than making fun of what happened, what are your actual thoughts on those patriots attacking the police in Southport in the video that I linked? I've said on the other thread. What are you after ?
I guess that's the problem with having multiple threads discussing the same thing, I haven't seen your comments on that one.
I don't understand why it's such a game and you can't just answer the question though, rather than making glib jokes about such a dreadful situation.
But hey, I'll scroll through your posting history, if that's what you want people to have to do ...
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Aug 1, 2024 21:26:18 GMT
Few more here as well Big test for two tier The thing is people have been so damn ignorant and it only takes one thing to spark these things. I really hope nothing bad happens to anyone but many of us predicted this a long time ago and people continued to put their head in the sand. This country is on its knees with race relations and it’s not the fault of one single demograph, there are many many contributing factors. I must admit I feel sorry for the coppers who are going have to deal with this having had budgets decimated and recruitment criteria loosened to the point of it not even being a career where you need that much to qualify anymore. Just like the NHS and other services it needs a complete overhaul but time is quickly running out People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 1, 2024 21:27:10 GMT
The thing is people have been so damn ignorant and it only takes one thing to spark these things. I really hope nothing bad happens to anyone but many of us predicted this a long time ago and people continued to put their head in the sand. This country is on its knees with race relations and it’s not the fault of one single demograph, there are many many contributing factors. I must admit I feel sorry for the coppers who are going have to deal with this having had budgets decimated and recruitment criteria loosened to the point of it not even being a career where you need that much to qualify anymore. Just like the NHS and other services it needs a complete overhaul but time is quickly running out People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties. Really mate can you not just leave the lefty righty stuff out of it?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:27:20 GMT
What's happening in London this coming Saturday?
Thanks mate, I didn't know about that.
If the protesters on that march start attacking the police and throwing bricks and bottles at them, then I assume you'll be hoping for a robust response from the police?
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:28:34 GMT
The thing is people have been so damn ignorant and it only takes one thing to spark these things. I really hope nothing bad happens to anyone but many of us predicted this a long time ago and people continued to put their head in the sand. This country is on its knees with race relations and it’s not the fault of one single demograph, there are many many contributing factors. I must admit I feel sorry for the coppers who are going have to deal with this having had budgets decimated and recruitment criteria loosened to the point of it not even being a career where you need that much to qualify anymore. Just like the NHS and other services it needs a complete overhaul but time is quickly running out People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties.
Exactly.
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Post by henry on Aug 1, 2024 21:29:35 GMT
I've said on the other thread. What are you after ? I guess that's the problem with having multiple threads discussing the same thing, I haven't seen your comments on that one. I don't understand why it's such a game and you can't just answer the question though, rather than making glib jokes about such a dreadful situation.
But hey, I'll scroll through your posting history, if that's what you want people to have to do ...
Gallows humour chap, when the worlds on fire get a round of bread. To save you the trouble (and only going from memory) i think they were along the lines of This is sickening RIP For the record people throwing things at the police are feral scum there's probably a few more hope this helps.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 21:31:14 GMT
Thanks mate, I didn't know about that.
If the protesters on that march start attacking the police and throwing bricks and bottles at them, then I assume you'll be hoping for a robust response from the police?
Yes consistentcy in the way they Police
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2024 21:32:20 GMT
The thing is people have been so damn ignorant and it only takes one thing to spark these things. I really hope nothing bad happens to anyone but many of us predicted this a long time ago and people continued to put their head in the sand. This country is on its knees with race relations and it’s not the fault of one single demograph, there are many many contributing factors. I must admit I feel sorry for the coppers who are going have to deal with this having had budgets decimated and recruitment criteria loosened to the point of it not even being a career where you need that much to qualify anymore. Just like the NHS and other services it needs a complete overhaul but time is quickly running out People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties. I'm guessing that's the reason for Rochdale and Harehills too. You've got Robinson one side and Jack Khan the other.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Aug 1, 2024 21:34:46 GMT
The thing is people have been so damn ignorant and it only takes one thing to spark these things. I really hope nothing bad happens to anyone but many of us predicted this a long time ago and people continued to put their head in the sand. This country is on its knees with race relations and it’s not the fault of one single demograph, there are many many contributing factors. I must admit I feel sorry for the coppers who are going have to deal with this having had budgets decimated and recruitment criteria loosened to the point of it not even being a career where you need that much to qualify anymore. Just like the NHS and other services it needs a complete overhaul but time is quickly running out People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties. Without being racist, despite of course being labelled racist, plenty of non Tommy robinsons have tried to point out that rapid immigration in a short timescale without a proper plan for how its going to work will most likely cause friction, potentially serious friction. Nobody has listened to one jot of it. Just keep dumping problems onto the already disadvantaged and look the other way. Successive govts caused this problem. And here we are..
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:39:04 GMT
I guess that's the problem with having multiple threads discussing the same thing, I haven't seen your comments on that one. I don't understand why it's such a game and you can't just answer the question though, rather than making glib jokes about such a dreadful situation.
But hey, I'll scroll through your posting history, if that's what you want people to have to do ...
Gallows humour chap, when the worlds on fire get a round of bread. To save you the trouble (and only going from memory) i think they were along the lines of This is sickening RIP For the record people throwing things at the police are feral scum there's probably a few more hope this helps.
Thanks bud, I was just genuinely interested at what you thought about it and yes, it is utterly disgusting and in no way can it be condoned.
I have absolutely no idea how people think they are going to "save our children" by hurling bricks at the police.
Save our children from what/who exactly?
Prominent people with their own nefarious agendas, lit the torch paper on Tuesday, suggesting that it was a Muslim issue and (as they calculated) it's now stuck, even though it was a big fat lie.
It's the same principle as used by The Sun to smear Liverpool supporters in the immediate aftermath of Hillsbrough, even though what they said was a total lie, they got in with their false hoods, quickly and early and as a result, people even to this day, still believe it.
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Post by foghornsgleghorn on Aug 1, 2024 21:40:56 GMT
People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties. Really mate can you not just leave the lefty righty stuff out of it? Seems a valid point to me, and as you keep telling us , we're all entitled to an opinion, just you don't like it when it doesn't match yours.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:41:47 GMT
Thanks mate, I didn't know about that.
If the protesters on that march start attacking the police and throwing bricks and bottles at them, then I assume you'll be hoping for a robust response from the police?
Yes consistentcy in the way they Police
Yep.
I'm sure if the pro Palestine protesters start throwing bricks and bottles at the police, then they'll react in the same way as they do if the (for want of a better description) EDL protesters do the same.
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Post by desman2 on Aug 1, 2024 21:44:43 GMT
What's happening in London this coming Saturday?
Our contribution to Israels war machine are rear fusilage panels for the F-35 Stealth fighter which we don't actually sell to Israel. We sell it to the US who put it on the jets and then sell the jets. The problem arises when the jets are either utilised by the US air force or sold to others. We buy these jets for the RAF as do other nations so where is our direct sales of arms to Israel.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:44:57 GMT
People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties. I'm guessing that's the reason for Rochdale
What do you mean by this mate, not trying to catch you out, I just want to be sure what you're referring to before responding?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 21:46:32 GMT
Yes consistentcy in the way they Police
Yep.
I'm sure if the pro Palestine protesters start throwing bricks and bottles at the police, then they'll react in the same way as they do if the (for want of a better description) EDL protesters do the same.
Lets hope so Paul but I very much doubt they would in my opinion.Now that two tier has sat down with all the Police chiefs today then I’d expect that to happen
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Post by numpty40 on Aug 1, 2024 21:47:29 GMT
People have certainly been ignorant. They were warned that this could happen if politicians with racist agendas were given a platform but their supporters joked about wokies and lefties. Without being racist, despite of course being labelled racist, plenty of non Tommy robinsons have tried to point out that rapid immigration in a short timescale without a proper plan for how its going to work will most likely cause friction, potentially serious friction. Nobody has listened to one jot of it. Just keep dumping problems onto the already disadvantaged and look the other way. Successive govts caused this problem. And here we are.. It's an issue that led to Brexit and its an issue that should be addressed seriously and responsibly without labelling people racist. Such an emotive word is racist and yet it's very often thrown out there to stigmatise perfectly reasonable people. We're still a tolerant country evidenced by the last election where the majority of the country voted for centrist parties. Just take genuine concerns seriously.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 1, 2024 21:48:58 GMT
Really mate can you not just leave the lefty righty stuff out of it? Seems a valid point to me, and as you keep telling us , we're all entitled to an opinion, just you don't like it when it doesn't match yours. Your opinion is fine by me, what are you talking about? I’m allowed a counter opinion arent I?
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2024 21:50:42 GMT
I'm guessing that's the reason for Rochdale What do you mean by this mate, not trying to catch you out, I just want to be sure what you're referring to before responding?
Jack Khan shit stirring and threatening, much the same as Tommy Robinson. Two cheeks of the same arse. Neither want to allow due process. They're tiny, little men on dangerous ego trips. The Stones Sympathy for the Devil would reference them if it was written today.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:51:08 GMT
Yep.
I'm sure if the pro Palestine protesters start throwing bricks and bottles at the police, then they'll react in the same way as they do if the (for want of a better description) EDL protesters do the same.
Lets hope so Paul but I very much doubt they would in my opinion.Now that two tier has sat down with all the Police chiefs today then I’d expect that to happen
Let's hope so.
And I know two-tier Keir has a catchy ring to it but to be fair to him, there were accusations of two-tier policing flying around a long time before he became PM.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2024 21:51:27 GMT
Without being racist, despite of course being labelled racist, plenty of non Tommy robinsons have tried to point out that rapid immigration in a short timescale without a proper plan for how its going to work will most likely cause friction, potentially serious friction. Nobody has listened to one jot of it. Just keep dumping problems onto the already disadvantaged and look the other way. Successive govts caused this problem. And here we are.. It's an issue that led to Brexit and its an issue that should be addressed seriously and responsibly without labelling people racist. Such an emotive word is racist and yet it's very often thrown out there to stigmatise perfectly reasonable people. We're still a tolerant country evidenced by the last election where the majority of the country voted for centrist parties. Just take genuine concerns seriously. Probably the most sensible post about the subject in the past couple of weeks.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 1, 2024 21:52:19 GMT
Lets hope so Paul but I very much doubt they would in my opinion.Now that two tier has sat down with all the Police chiefs today then I’d expect that to happen
Let's hope so.
And I know two-tier Keir has a catchy ring to it but to be fair to him, there were accusations of two-tier policing flying around a long time before he became PM.
I know mate I’m only jesting
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 21:52:32 GMT
What do you mean by this mate, not trying to catch you out, I just want to be sure what you're referring to before responding?
Jack Khan shit stirring and threatening, much the same as Tommy Robinson. Two cheeks of the same arse. Neither want to allow due process. They're tiny, little men on dangerous ego trips. The Stones Sympathy for the Devil would reference them if it was written today.
No, I'm on about, what do you mean by the specific part of your post that I quoted?
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 1, 2024 21:52:32 GMT
What do you mean by this mate, not trying to catch you out, I just want to be sure what you're referring to before responding?
Jack Khan shit stirring and threatening, much the same as Tommy Robinson. Two cheeks of the same arse. Neither want to allow due process. They're tiny, little men on dangerous ego trips. The Stones Sympathy for the Devil would reference them if it was written today. What do you mean mate? I don’t follow
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2024 21:53:15 GMT
Jack Khan shit stirring and threatening, much the same as Tommy Robinson. Two cheeks of the same arse. Neither want to allow due process. They're tiny, little men on dangerous ego trips. The Stones Sympathy for the Devil would reference them if it was written today. What do you mean mate? I don’t follow You lead, others follow.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 1, 2024 21:54:25 GMT
What do you mean mate? I don’t follow You lead, others follow. I’m really not sure what you’re referring to, you’ll have to explain it to me otherwise I’ll go on all night
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Post by desman2 on Aug 1, 2024 21:56:43 GMT
One thing to remember is that just because one side wears a uniform doesn't mean that their thuggery is somehow excusable. Have a chat with some of the civil rights protesters in Northern Ireland. They were peaceful but still got stamped on. They then upped the anti and moved on to rocks, petrol bombs etc, and still no one listened. They then upped it again and it went to guns and bombs and still no one listened. It took 30 years and 4000 people dead before someone decided to listen.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2024 21:59:00 GMT
Jack Khan shit stirring and threatening, much the same as Tommy Robinson. Two cheeks of the same arse. Neither want to allow due process. They're tiny, little men on dangerous ego trips. The Stones Sympathy for the Devil would reference them if it was written today. No, I'm on about, what do you mean by the specific part of your post that I quoted?
I'm not getting drawn into any back and forth. Khan threatened to raise hell, in Rochdale until the results suited him. He used a situation to his own ends, much the same as others did with Southport. In fact his rhetoric, viewed by the perpetrators of Southport, probably went some way to ensuring that the shit stirring to cause it had as successful an effect as it did. If that isn't explanation enough then I apologise but that's all I've got.
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 1, 2024 21:59:24 GMT
I’m really not sure what you’re referring to, you’ll have to explain it to me otherwise I’ll go on all night Your lady would dispute that claim.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 1, 2024 22:01:30 GMT
I’m really not sure what you’re referring to, you’ll have to explain it to me otherwise I’ll go on all night Your lady would dispute that claim. Seems you’ve already met😉
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 1, 2024 22:06:04 GMT
No, I'm on about, what do you mean by the specific part of your post that I quoted?
I'm not getting drawn into any back and forth. Khan threatened to raise hell, in Rochdale until the results suited him. He used a situation to his own ends, much the same as others did with Southport. In fact his rhetoric, viewed by the perpetrators of Southport, probably went some way to ensuring that the shit stirring to cause it had as successful an effect as it did. If that isn't explanation enough then I apologise but that's all I've got.
You see this is why I asked.
Because I can't find anything online linking Jack Khan to Rochdale.
Are you sure you've got the right person?
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