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Josh Maja
Apr 26, 2022 11:32:09 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 26, 2022 11:32:09 GMT
If you don’t have the option to play it in the air, you become predictable. Even Fulham, who are supposed to play such wonderful football, occasionally smash it up to Mitrovic. Not necessarily, a ball down the line is different, an easy option and gets you up the pitch. And with Powell in the side, you have someone who can do that role too. That’s assuming that Powell is fit next season and that he comes back similar to the player he was. He’s been out most of the season, there’s no guarantees. As mentioned, Maja appears pretty useless with the ball not at his feet. He’s also not fast enough to chase a ball down the line. So we couldn’t do any long game with him in the side.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 26, 2022 11:50:10 GMT
Not necessarily, a ball down the line is different, an easy option and gets you up the pitch. And with Powell in the side, you have someone who can do that role too. That’s assuming that Powell is fit next season and that he comes back similar to the player he was. He’s been out most of the season, there’s no guarantees. As mentioned, Maja appears pretty useless with the ball not at his feet. He’s also not fast enough to chase a ball down the line. So we couldn’t do any long game with him in the side. Why wouldn't he be the player he was/is? Fitness worries I get but there's nothing to suggest the injuries will affect his game. He's fine chasing the ball down the line.
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Josh Maja
Apr 26, 2022 11:54:22 GMT
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Post by s7oke on Apr 26, 2022 11:54:22 GMT
15 apps 1 goal 3 assists Is that enough for £3.5m quid? Probably got to reflect he'd played pretty much no football prior to joining us because of a back injury. But he's out of contract next year. That’s Surridge esq 😱
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Post by stokie1947 on Apr 26, 2022 12:11:07 GMT
it was just a tongue in cheek comment but i might be wrong i don't think Mata is the answer either
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Post by independent on Apr 26, 2022 14:54:17 GMT
Or you just play a ball into the channel…. Would you be happy with Brown and Maja as a front 2 in (what we assume will be) a 3-5-2 next season? With Campbell potentially as back-up... Can't see Tezgel featuring that much. If Allen (and maybe Sawyers?) stays, it doesn't seem like that much would change - bar maybe a Smith replacement as you'd think MON would happily take Jagielka (and THB if he could)? Where are the big changes going to come? Or are we saying we don't really need them? With Moore, Chester,Fox,Fletcher,Sima,Bidace, Smith, and Vrancic more than likely leaving and possibly Allen,Clucas, Sawyers and Harwood Bellis missing as well, there will be plenty of room for players who can make a big difference.
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Josh Maja
Apr 26, 2022 14:57:14 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 26, 2022 14:57:14 GMT
That’s assuming that Powell is fit next season and that he comes back similar to the player he was. He’s been out most of the season, there’s no guarantees. As mentioned, Maja appears pretty useless with the ball not at his feet. He’s also not fast enough to chase a ball down the line. So we couldn’t do any long game with him in the side. Why wouldn't he be the player he was/is? Fitness worries I get but there's nothing to suggest the injuries will affect his game. He's fine chasing the ball down the line. Define fine. He’s slower than any of our other attackers, so I wouldn’t consider it to be anything more than just a hit and hope, with little hope. Who knows what Powell’s going to look like. He’s been out for half a season and his contract is almost up. Plus, I’d rather not use him as a battering ram. He is better in the air than I expected him to be before signing him, but I’d much rather him not be the one having to do the heavy lifting versus a bigger centre half. He’s better receiving the ball from a target man than being forced to play as one.
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 26, 2022 15:18:57 GMT
Would you be happy with Brown and Maja as a front 2 in (what we assume will be) a 3-5-2 next season? With Campbell potentially as back-up... Can't see Tezgel featuring that much. If Allen (and maybe Sawyers?) stays, it doesn't seem like that much would change - bar maybe a Smith replacement as you'd think MON would happily take Jagielka (and THB if he could)? Where are the big changes going to come? Or are we saying we don't really need them? With Moore, Chester,Fox,Fletcher,Sima,Bidace, Smith, and Vrancic more than likely leaving and possibly Allen,Clucas, Sawyers and Harwood Bellis missing as well, there will be plenty of room for players who can make a big difference. Very much so. I'm just referring to first-team difference makers who'll come in and make 30-35 starts and really up the level. As it stands, where are we really thinking that's going to come, apart from at RB/RWB? If we were to hypothetically go in with: Keeper
NEW Wilmot Souttar THB(?) Tymon
Allen Baker Powell/Sawyers
Maja BrownThen we've got DWP, Jagielka (who could probably only play in the middle as a Souttar alternative?), Thompson and Campbell who'll be expecting plenty of action THB seems 50-50 as a return loan possibility? But MON would probably take him again if he could. Connor Taylor is probably another (like Jagielka) who'd be most at home in the middle of the three It may be that MON doesn't think Maja is the difference-maker we need after seeing him up close. Who knows? He may think goalkeeper is an area where we could really take a step forward? And he may even think a back 4 is the way to go, so it's all speculative at this point.
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Apr 26, 2022 15:49:43 GMT
With Moore, Chester,Fox,Fletcher,Sima,Bidace, Smith, and Vrancic more than likely leaving and possibly Allen,Clucas, Sawyers and Harwood Bellis missing as well, there will be plenty of room for players who can make a big difference. Very much so. I'm just referring to first-team difference makers who'll come in and make 30-35 starts and really up the level. As it stands, where are we really thinking that's going to come, apart from at RB/RWB? If we were to hypothetically go in with: Keeper
NEW Wilmot Souttar THB(?) Tymon
Allen Baker Powell/Sawyers
Maja BrownThen we've got DWP, Jagielka (who could probably only play in the middle as a Souttar alternative?), Thompson and Campbell who'll be expecting plenty of action THB seems 50-50 as a return loan possibility? But MON would probably take him again if he could. Connor Taylor is probably another (like Jagielka) who'd be most at home in the middle of the three It may be that MON doesn't think Maja is the difference-maker we need after seeing him up close. Who knows? He may think goalkeeper is an area where we could really take a step forward? And he may even think a back 4 is the way to go, so it's all speculative at this point. You're right mate, it is speculative, but that potential line up doesn't thrill me really as far as fighting for promotion is concerned.
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Josh Maja
Apr 26, 2022 15:58:39 GMT
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 26, 2022 15:58:39 GMT
With Moore, Chester,Fox,Fletcher,Sima,Bidace, Smith, and Vrancic more than likely leaving and possibly Allen,Clucas, Sawyers and Harwood Bellis missing as well, there will be plenty of room for players who can make a big difference. Very much so. I'm just referring to first-team difference makers who'll come in and make 30-35 starts and really up the level. As it stands, where are we really thinking that's going to come, apart from at RB/RWB? If we were to hypothetically go in with: Keeper
NEW Wilmot Souttar THB(?) Tymon
Allen Baker Powell/Sawyers
Maja BrownThen we've got DWP, Jagielka (who could probably only play in the middle as a Souttar alternative?), Thompson and Campbell who'll be expecting plenty of action THB seems 50-50 as a return loan possibility? But MON would probably take him again if he could. Connor Taylor is probably another (like Jagielka) who'd be most at home in the middle of the three It may be that MON doesn't think Maja is the difference-maker we need after seeing him up close. Who knows? He may think goalkeeper is an area where we could really take a step forward? And he may even think a back 4 is the way to go, so it's all speculative at this point. From MON’s comments, it sounds like Sparrow is to be the new right wing back. I’d be surprised if we went into the season with him there, but I wouldn’t be shocked if they kept trying to play Wilmot there and had Sparrow try out in cup games/friendlies. That would leave us as having Souttar, Jagielka, Taylor and Forrester as central defensive options.
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Josh Maja
Apr 26, 2022 17:05:44 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Apr 26, 2022 17:05:44 GMT
With Moore, Chester,Fox,Fletcher,Sima,Bidace, Smith, and Vrancic more than likely leaving and possibly Allen,Clucas, Sawyers and Harwood Bellis missing as well, there will be plenty of room for players who can make a big difference. Very much so. I'm just referring to first-team difference makers who'll come in and make 30-35 starts and really up the level. As it stands, where are we really thinking that's going to come, apart from at RB/RWB? If we were to hypothetically go in with: Keeper
NEW Wilmot Souttar THB(?) Tymon
Allen Baker Powell/Sawyers
Maja BrownThen we've got DWP, Jagielka (who could probably only play in the middle as a Souttar alternative?), Thompson and Campbell who'll be expecting plenty of action THB seems 50-50 as a return loan possibility? But MON would probably take him again if he could. Connor Taylor is probably another (like Jagielka) who'd be most at home in the middle of the three It may be that MON doesn't think Maja is the difference-maker we need after seeing him up close. Who knows? He may think goalkeeper is an area where we could really take a step forward? And he may even think a back 4 is the way to go, so it's all speculative at this point. Jesus, how depressing. We desperately need an injection of quality in there or mid table is the very best we can hope for.
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Post by independent on Apr 26, 2022 18:42:48 GMT
Don't panic, I reckon MON intends to improve the squad and probably has his targets in mind. Hopefully he can get most of the ones he wants. It's not easy to put the side you want together when you have no money and are juggling. Last year it was obvious that Clucas was leaving.Then Mikel left and we needed another midfielder so Clucas was resigned on lower wages. Had we got Baker last June, I don't think Clucas would be here now. But we would have had another better player here instead. A RF,DM,Keeper, Striker,Who knows? In other words we would have had a better team. I think MON was unlucky in that window. He deserves a bit of luck this year.
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Post by Trouserdog on Apr 26, 2022 18:46:27 GMT
He's Ok if the ball is into his feet and he's not under much pressure. Give him something in the air or bouncing with a defender near him and he doesn't hold the ball well enough- not got the physical stature or strength to hold defenders off. Agree in the air, so don’t play it in the air. Have you not watched the rest of our team attempt to play football? 😂
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Post by FullerMagic on Apr 28, 2022 15:13:09 GMT
Holden seems to rate him as a player and a professional. Would think they'd try and keep him based on this?
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Josh Maja
Apr 28, 2022 17:09:10 GMT
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Post by hardcastle on Apr 28, 2022 17:09:10 GMT
Not necessarily, a ball down the line is different, an easy option and gets you up the pitch. And with Powell in the side, you have someone who can do that role too. That’s assuming that Powell is fit next season and that he comes back similar to the player he was. He’s been out most of the season, there’s no guarantees. As mentioned, Maja appears pretty useless with the ball not at his feet. He’s also not fast enough to chase a ball down the line. So we couldn’t do any long game with him in the side. If you want 'guarantees' you might be better off watching the Scottish PL.
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Post by robwahlmann on Apr 28, 2022 17:23:44 GMT
Should we go for Maja?
If it was a free transfer? YES!
Around £500K? Probably!
More than £1M? NO!
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Post by tachyon on Apr 29, 2022 8:56:11 GMT
Maja's shot profile in a variety of leagues (PL Ligue1 Champ) ![](//storage.proboards.com/800541/thumbnailer/dyLDYgLyxxegljYjRluC.png) Overall 0.29 non penalty xG per full game (a NP expected goal every 3.5 games). 0.16 xG per goal attempt (so, high quality chances, likes the six yard box). Average of 1.8 attempts per game. Not done so well at Stoke (service probably an issue). Here he's got on the end of an expected goal every five full games, at roughly the same quality of chances, but fewer attempts per full game (just 1.2). Stylistically, he's poor in the air. Doesn't get involved in many aerial duels and only wins a quarter of the ones he does. (average success rate for his position is just over 40%) Passing wise, he gets more involved in passes in his own half than the average for forwards and is above average for completion, not a liability in his own half. Likes a backwards pass (14% more frequently than average for his position) So brings in midfield runners from deep and does it at above average efficiency. A smaller percentage of his passes are forward ones compared to his position and that's a career trait. Doesn't carry the ball much, but is more difficult to shift off it than average when he does. Not yet in his prime, still a young talent at 23 & 100 or so days.
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Post by nottsover60 on Apr 29, 2022 9:13:12 GMT
Maja's shot profile in a variety of leagues (PL Ligue1 Champ) <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Overall 0.29 non penalty xG per full game (a NP expected goal every 3.5 games). 0.16 xG per goal attempt (so, high quality chances, likes the six yard box). Average of 1.8 attempts per game. Not done so well at Stoke (service probably an issue). Here he's got on the end of an expected goal every five full games, at roughly the same quality of chances, but fewer attempts per full game (just 1.2). Stylistically, he's poor in the air. Doesn't get involved in many aerial duels and only wins a quarter of the ones he does. (average success rate for his position is just over 40%) Passing wise, he gets more involved in passes in his own half than the average for forwards and is above average for completion, not a liability in his own half. Likes a backwards pass (14% more frequently than average for his position) So brings in midfield runners from deep and does it at above average efficiency. A smaller percentage of his passes are forward ones compared to his position and that's a career trait. Doesn't carry the ball much, but is more difficult to shift off it than average when he does. Not yet in his prime, still a young talent at 23 & 100 or so days. Buy for me. I'm a big fan. To me he looks likes a proper footballer with a good football brain but a bit low on confidence. He keeps trying though and makes himself available. If we 're going to play along the ground he could be worth more than £3million to us eventually when he' s settled in. Holden seems to be a big fan too. Brown could be the perfect foil too as their strengths seem to compliment each other - Brown physical, athletic, good in the air, challenges and closes down best shooting from outside the area when he doesn' t have time to think;Maja cool, good passer and decision maker, brings in the midfielders, gets into good positions in the box. Has he played with Powell behind him yet?
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Josh Maja
Apr 29, 2022 11:07:36 GMT
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 29, 2022 11:07:36 GMT
Maja's shot profile in a variety of leagues (PL Ligue1 Champ) <button disabled="" class="c-attachment-insert--linked o-btn--sm">Attachment Deleted</button> Overall 0.29 non penalty xG per full game (a NP expected goal every 3.5 games). 0.16 xG per goal attempt (so, high quality chances, likes the six yard box). Average of 1.8 attempts per game. Not done so well at Stoke (service probably an issue). Here he's got on the end of an expected goal every five full games, at roughly the same quality of chances, but fewer attempts per full game (just 1.2). Stylistically, he's poor in the air. Doesn't get involved in many aerial duels and only wins a quarter of the ones he does. (average success rate for his position is just over 40%) Passing wise, he gets more involved in passes in his own half than the average for forwards and is above average for completion, not a liability in his own half. Likes a backwards pass (14% more frequently than average for his position) So brings in midfield runners from deep and does it at above average efficiency. A smaller percentage of his passes are forward ones compared to his position and that's a career trait. Doesn't carry the ball much, but is more difficult to shift off it than average when he does. Not yet in his prime, still a young talent at 23 & 100 or so days. Buy for me. I'm a big fan. To me he looks likes a proper footballer with a good football brain but a bit low on confidence. He keeps trying though and makes himself available. If we 're going to play along the ground he could be worth more than £3million to us eventually when he' s settled in. Holden seems to be a big fan too. Brown could be the perfect foil too as their strengths seem to compliment each other - Brown physical, athletic, good in the air, challenges and closes down best shooting from outside the area when he doesn' t have time to think;Maja cool, good passer and decision maker, brings in the midfielders, gets into good positions in the box. Has he played with Powell behind him yet? Can’t believe anyone could turn that data into something we should blow a huge chunk of our budget on.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 29, 2022 11:09:06 GMT
How much of the 3m is up front? If the initaly is 1m which I would would hope it would be then it's a no brainer for me.
He's played well. He's been getting fit. He's linked the play well. He's linked nicely with our better players.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 29, 2022 11:13:02 GMT
Cameron Jerome ( at the time) , I get it . A bit of a rubbish footballer but big, fast, strong , good in the air and makes defences drop off ten yards . Not a brilliant footballer but ticks a fair few boxes
Josh Maya , a bit of a rubbish footballer, slow and poor in the air . I don't get it . I don't see how he ticks enough boxes to get a game
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Post by onionman on Apr 29, 2022 12:30:03 GMT
Maja's shot profile in a variety of leagues (PL Ligue1 Champ) View AttachmentOverall 0.29 non penalty xG per full game (a NP expected goal every 3.5 games). 0.16 xG per goal attempt (so, high quality chances, likes the six yard box). Average of 1.8 attempts per game. Not done so well at Stoke (service probably an issue). Here he's got on the end of an expected goal every five full games, at roughly the same quality of chances, but fewer attempts per full game (just 1.2). Stylistically, he's poor in the air. Doesn't get involved in many aerial duels and only wins a quarter of the ones he does. (average success rate for his position is just over 40%) Passing wise, he gets more involved in passes in his own half than the average for forwards and is above average for completion, not a liability in his own half. Likes a backwards pass (14% more frequently than average for his position) So brings in midfield runners from deep and does it at above average efficiency. A smaller percentage of his passes are forward ones compared to his position and that's a career trait. Doesn't carry the ball much, but is more difficult to shift off it than average when he does. Not yet in his prime, still a young talent at 23 & 100 or so days. A few times we've seen Tymon put crosses into great areas, but Maja has either looked hesitant, or just not seemed to anticipate the chance quickly enough. If I was to pick one simple way we could score more goals, it would be to sign a "meat and potatoes" striker who can get on the end of those crosses. Do the stats back up what my eyes are telling me? And do the stats show whether Maja can be that man?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 29, 2022 13:24:01 GMT
Maja's shot profile in a variety of leagues (PL Ligue1 Champ) View AttachmentOverall 0.29 non penalty xG per full game (a NP expected goal every 3.5 games). 0.16 xG per goal attempt (so, high quality chances, likes the six yard box). Average of 1.8 attempts per game. Not done so well at Stoke (service probably an issue). Here he's got on the end of an expected goal every five full games, at roughly the same quality of chances, but fewer attempts per full game (just 1.2). Stylistically, he's poor in the air. Doesn't get involved in many aerial duels and only wins a quarter of the ones he does. (average success rate for his position is just over 40%) Passing wise, he gets more involved in passes in his own half than the average for forwards and is above average for completion, not a liability in his own half. Likes a backwards pass (14% more frequently than average for his position) So brings in midfield runners from deep and does it at above average efficiency. A smaller percentage of his passes are forward ones compared to his position and that's a career trait. Doesn't carry the ball much, but is more difficult to shift off it than average when he does. Not yet in his prime, still a young talent at 23 & 100 or so days. A few times we've seen Tymon put crosses into great areas, but Maja has either looked hesitant, or just not seemed to anticipate the chance quickly enough. If I was to pick one simple way we could score more goals, it would be to sign a "meat and potatoes" striker who can get on the end of those crosses. Do the stats back up what my eyes are telling me? And do the stats show whether Maja can be that man? We used to slate McClean putting balls into areas no one was. Isn't that just a shit cross? We play with a bloke who has 14 league goals, Powell who is a cracking header of a ball, Campbell a natural goalscorer and Maja who is too. And none of them regularly are where Tymon's crosses are.
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Post by onionman on Apr 29, 2022 13:57:28 GMT
A few times we've seen Tymon put crosses into great areas, but Maja has either looked hesitant, or just not seemed to anticipate the chance quickly enough. If I was to pick one simple way we could score more goals, it would be to sign a "meat and potatoes" striker who can get on the end of those crosses. Do the stats back up what my eyes are telling me? And do the stats show whether Maja can be that man? We used to slate McClean putting balls into areas no one was. Isn't that just a shit cross? We play with a bloke who has 14 league goals, Powell who is a cracking header of a ball, Campbell a natural goalscorer and Maja who is too. And none of them regularly are where Tymon's crosses are. There have been a few games where Tymon has flashed the ball in hard and low, from a good angle, and the forwards just haven't anticipated it in the way you expect from a natural goalscorer. Maja has looked short of confidence in the box and we all know Campbell isn't sharp at the moment. You haven't found yourself shouting "gamble" at them? McClean was scattergun. Tymon does seem to be playing more of a percentage game with his deliveries, I'm guessing he's following instructions on where to deliver from, and the height of his crosses.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on Apr 29, 2022 15:59:22 GMT
We used to slate McClean putting balls into areas no one was. Isn't that just a shit cross? We play with a bloke who has 14 league goals, Powell who is a cracking header of a ball, Campbell a natural goalscorer and Maja who is too. And none of them regularly are where Tymon's crosses are. There have been a few games where Tymon has flashed the ball in hard and low, from a good angle, and the forwards just haven't anticipated it in the way you expect from a natural goalscorer. Maja has looked short of confidence in the box and we all know Campbell isn't sharp at the moment. You haven't found yourself shouting "gamble" at them? McClean was scattergun. Tymon does seem to be playing more of a percentage game with his deliveries, I'm guessing he's following instructions on where to deliver from, and the height of his crosses. I’m not sure there is a right height for Maja. Wins nothing in the air and hopeless in at feet under any pressure. Maybe if everything was perfect for him he’d score but how often will that happen?
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Post by tachyon on Apr 29, 2022 16:56:44 GMT
A few times we've seen Tymon put crosses into great areas, but Maja has either looked hesitant, or just not seemed to anticipate the chance quickly enough. If I was to pick one simple way we could score more goals, it would be to sign a "meat and potatoes" striker who can get on the end of those crosses. Do the stats back up what my eyes are telling me? And do the stats show whether Maja can be that man? [/quote] You score an average of one goal directly as a result of a cross every 95 ish deliveries. If you look beyond the cross and include goals scored upto the defending side taking control of the ball you reduce those 95 crosses down to just under 50. As a team, Stoke this season have been around that historical average at converting crosses. We've scored nine goals from 870 deliveries, with seven different players providing the assist. Vrancic, Wilmot, Sawyers, Baker and Clucas & two each from Smith and Tymon. We make 5 accurate crosses per full game (our player gets the first touch). We're the 8th most frequent crossing team and 7th most efficient at getting first contact. So it's a big part of our attacking strategy. Re Maja. Fair to say heading isn't his strength (he hasn't scored a Champ, Ligue 1 or PL header. He may have done for Sunderland in 2018/19 in League one, but that was a season that data largely forgot). But his shot map does look like goal poacher, for want of a better term and Powell and Brown are sensationally good at scoring headed goals, which may compensate. Brown also excelled at providing scoring chances to feet at Barnsley (which is much more Maja's thing). Maja's play outside the box is fine and he's only played 991 mins for Stoke compared to 3505 mins at Championship level or higher for others when his attacking xG stats were fine. So you could perhaps cut him some adjustment slack. Price point will decide, I suppose.
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Post by onionman on Apr 29, 2022 17:13:46 GMT
A few times we've seen Tymon put crosses into great areas, but Maja has either looked hesitant, or just not seemed to anticipate the chance quickly enough. If I was to pick one simple way we could score more goals, it would be to sign a "meat and potatoes" striker who can get on the end of those crosses. Do the stats back up what my eyes are telling me? And do the stats show whether Maja can be that man? You score an average of one goal directly as a result of a cross every 95 ish deliveries. If you look beyond the cross and include goals scored upto the defending side taking control of the ball you reduce those 95 crosses down to just under 50. As a team, Stoke this season have been around that historical average at converting crosses. We've scored nine goals from 870 deliveries, with seven different players providing the assist. Vrancic, Wilmot, Sawyers, Baker and Clucas & two each from Smith and Tymon. We make 5 accurate crosses per full game (our player gets the first touch). We're the 8th most frequent crossing team and 7th most efficient at getting first contact. So it's a big part of our attacking strategy. Re Maja. Fair to say heading isn't his strength (he hasn't scored a Champ, Ligue 1 or PL header. He may have done for Sunderland in 2018/19 in League one, but that was a season that data largely forgot). But his shot map does look like goal poacher, for want of a better term and Powell and Brown are sensationally good at scoring headed goals, which may compensate. Brown also excelled at providing scoring chances to feet at Barnsley (which is much more Maja's thing). Maja's play outside the box is fine and he's only played 991 mins for Stoke compared to 3505 mins at Championship level or higher for others when his attacking xG stats were fine. So you could perhaps cut him some adjustment slack. Price point will decide, I suppose. [/quote] Thanks very much. So as a team we have done a decent job of getting on the end of crosses. Maybe those low crosses that nobody seemed to attack have just stuck in the memory more, even if they're not reflective of our overall performance.
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Post by tachyon on Apr 29, 2022 17:54:38 GMT
Thanks very much. So as a team we have done a decent job of getting on the end of crosses. Maybe those low crosses that nobody seemed to attack have just stuck in the memory more, even if they're not reflective of our overall performance. You can improve conversion rates by crossing from smart positions. Get as deep as the 18 yard line or deeper & cross from infield not the touchline, group your crosses between the pen spot & the six yard box, go far, rather than near post. Improves the second phase pickings as well.
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Post by onionman on Apr 29, 2022 17:57:52 GMT
Thanks very much. So as a team we have done a decent job of getting on the end of crosses. Maybe those low crosses that nobody seemed to attack have just stuck in the memory more, even if they're not reflective of our overall performance. You can improve conversion rates by crossing from smart positions. Get as deep as the 18 yard line or deeper & cross from infield not the touchline, group your crosses between the pen spot & the six yard box, go far, rather than near post. Improves the second phase pickings as well. Do you know to what extent we have done that this season?
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Post by tachyon on Apr 29, 2022 20:06:05 GMT
You can improve conversion rates by crossing from smart positions. Get as deep as the 18 yard line or deeper & cross from infield not the touchline, group your crosses between the pen spot & the six yard box, go far, rather than near post. Improves the second phase pickings as well. Do you know to what extent we have done that this season? Around 35% of our crosses are from very good initial positions and around half of those 35% find a good end point in the box. So overall we get ~18% of our crosses from the optimum start point to the optimum end point. That's better than league average. Tymon especially good. It's the difference between an expected conversion rate of ~5% for only really good choices, to 1% for an average mix of crosses to ~ 0.2% conversion rates for universally bad choices.
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Post by onionman on Apr 29, 2022 20:20:16 GMT
Do you know to what extent we have done that this season? Around 35% of our crosses are from very good initial positions and around half of those 35% find a good end point in the box. So overall we get ~18% of our crosses from the optimum start point to the optimum end point. That's better than league average. Tymon especially good. It's the difference between an expected conversion rate of ~5% for only really good choices, to 1% for an average mix of crosses to ~ 0.2% conversion rates for universally bad choices. Cheers! Interesting. If O'Neill uses this kind of data, it doesn't bode well for Tommy Smith's future.
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