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Post by georgeberrysafro on Aug 8, 2024 14:59:05 GMT
To see her family? It says so in the article. And sounds like she was a bit overconfident that Russia wasn't like the 1980s Soviet Union again.
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Post by staffordstokiemad1 on Aug 8, 2024 15:18:31 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2024 7:18:55 GMT
So it looks like a column of Russian trucks carrying troops was wiped out last night in Kursk.
There’s a video of the supposed aftermath above the tweet below if people want to see that. But it confirms this account. Obviously they could have just watched the video and described it. But there’s been multiple reports of this happening so it seems pretty legit.
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Post by emretezzy on Aug 9, 2024 7:25:27 GMT
So it looks like a column of Russian trucks carrying troops was wiped out last night in Kursk. There’s a video of the supposed aftermath above the tweet below if people want to see that. But it confirms this account. Obviously they could have just watched the video and described it. But there’s been multiple reports of this happening so it seems pretty legit. Fucking go on lads. It's getting desperate for Russia now.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 9, 2024 7:28:12 GMT
So it looks like a column of Russian trucks carrying troops was wiped out last night in Kursk. There’s a video of the supposed aftermath above the tweet below if people want to see that. But it confirms this account. Obviously they could have just watched the video and described it. But there’s been multiple reports of this happening so it seems pretty legit. Fucking go on lads. It's getting desperate for Russia now. It’ll be interesting to see how long Ukraine can sustain this and if they actually dig in. No one outside of the Ukranian command seemingly knows their game here which is good. There’s lots of guesses that all sound plausible. But so far this seems to have done way more than their others “jaunts” into Russia.
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Post by emretezzy on Aug 9, 2024 7:43:20 GMT
Fucking go on lads. It's getting desperate for Russia now. It’ll be interesting to see how long Ukraine can sustain this and if they actually dig in. No one outside of the Ukranian command seemingly knows their game here which is good. There’s lots of guesses that all sound plausible. But so far this seems to have done way more than their others “jaunts” into Russia. I'd expect a splinter group to hit another part of the border. That obliteration of at least 4 full brigades on Russian soil is going to sting bad. He will be pushing for draft soon.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 9, 2024 7:53:04 GMT
Holy crap there's a video of someone driving around in russia and running into a smashed russian convoy. About 10 trucks burnt or obviously damaged with what could be corpses inside and scattered around, a few other vehicles that look undamaged. I'm not posting because of the human losses but you can find it on the @deepstateua Telegram channel.
This is definitely a bigger deal than the last cross border raids.
I still think it seems insanely risky and could collapse in on itself disastrously.
But for now it's very exciting.
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Post by emretezzy on Aug 9, 2024 7:55:04 GMT
Holy crap there's a video of someone driving around in russia and running into a burnt out russian convoy. About 10 trucks burnt with what could be corpses inside and scattered around, a few more ofher vehicles that look undamaged. I'm not posting because of the losses but you can find it on the @deepstateua Telegram channel. This is definitely a bigger deal than the last cross border raids. I still think it seems insanely risky and could collapse in on itself disastrously. But for now it's very exciting. They've got the best military minds from Britian and America co-ordinating everything. They wouldn't have done this if the new they couldn't fortify a weak point. If Russia pulls troops back from any of the front lines.. Ukraine will be all over it. Going go down as one of the best military moves ever if they can pull it off.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 9, 2024 7:58:14 GMT
Big hit on/near a russian airfield yesterday.
NASA satellite fire detectors pinged and when I saw it wasn't the main runway area but somewhere to the side. Maybe ammo and air defence?
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 9, 2024 8:14:11 GMT
They've got the best military minds from Britian and America co-ordinating everything. They wouldn't have done this if the new they couldn't fortify a weak point. If Russia pulls troops back from any of the front lines.. Ukraine will be all over it. Going go down as one of the best military moves ever if they can pull it off. I hope it works out! It's been astonishingly successful so far. Just don't know what the next step is. The recommendation is to rotate troops pretty quickly on an offensive and the further in they go, the harder it will be to supply and maintain. As soon as they dig in the usual problems will start up.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 9, 2024 10:12:43 GMT
Russia has responded to Ukraine battering its army by blowing up another supermarket. Standard russian behaviour 😢
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 9, 2024 10:30:08 GMT
Russia has responded to Ukraine battering its army by blowing up another supermarket. Standard russian behaviour 😢 Putin, not Russia mate. We must remember that. Russians are great people.
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 9, 2024 10:35:51 GMT
They've got the best military minds from Britian and America co-ordinating everything. They wouldn't have done this if the new they couldn't fortify a weak point. If Russia pulls troops back from any of the front lines.. Ukraine will be all over it. Going go down as one of the best military moves ever if they can pull it off. I hope it works out! It's been astonishingly successful so far. Just don't know what the next step is. The recommendation is to rotate troops pretty quickly on an offensive and the further in they go, the harder it will be to supply and maintain. As soon as they dig in the usual problems will start up. Bit like a test match chasing 450. The side chasing are under the cosh and then some unknown middle order batsman has come to the crease and he's just launching these enormous sixes. Opposition is confused and doesn't know what the hell to do 😅
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Post by steve66 on Aug 9, 2024 11:20:26 GMT
You might want remove that then Gawa?
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Post by milton58 on Aug 9, 2024 16:10:08 GMT
Russia has responded to Ukraine battering its army by blowing up another supermarket. Standard russian behaviour 😢 Ukraine was using human shields maybe? 👀 (this is a joke) yea hilarious fella...wrong un
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Post by gawa on Aug 9, 2024 16:23:34 GMT
You might want remove that then Gawa? It's just a joke mate. I take no pleasure in anyone losing their lives in these conflicts.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 9, 2024 16:52:25 GMT
I hope it works out! It's been astonishingly successful so far. Just don't know what the next step is. The recommendation is to rotate troops pretty quickly on an offensive and the further in they go, the harder it will be to supply and maintain. As soon as they dig in the usual problems will start up. Bit like a test match chasing 450. The side chasing are under the cosh and then some unknown middle order batsman has come to the crease and he's just launching these enormous sixes. Opposition is confused and doesn't know what the hell to do 😅 Thanks for explaining something I can't understand using cricket, a thing I understand even less 😂 It kinda makes sense though. Russia looks like it got caught with its pants down.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 9, 2024 16:53:11 GMT
Looks like Biden allowed GMLRS rockets from HIMARS to be used in Kursk.
Now we need ATACMS.
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Post by steve66 on Aug 9, 2024 17:03:13 GMT
You might want remove that then Gawa? It's just a joke mate. I take no pleasure in anyone losing their lives in these conflicts. You have a weird sense of humour then
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 9, 2024 21:37:26 GMT
Based on the length of the table, I suspect that this is fake.
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 10, 2024 6:43:49 GMT
One very smart and reliable guy on twitter said: "More and more Russian reinforcements will likely start arriving in the Kursk direction in the coming few days. Russian artillery rate of fire will increase and they will start counter attacking. This is when we will see if Ukraine had a solid plan or not." Sounds sensible. We might not have an idea on whether overall it's good or bad results for weeks I think. Seen some abandoned Russian tanks in Ukrainian controlled area. If Ukraine can steal them that would help. There are rumours that russia is moving units from inside Ukraine to defend Kursk. If russia has to pull many units from the front then that would couny as success IMO.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 10, 2024 7:06:40 GMT
understandingwar.org/backgrounder/russian-offensive-campaign-assessment-august-9-2024Russian forces are reportedly increasing the use of chemical agents in Ukraine in continued apparent violations of the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC), to which Russia is a signatory. The Ukrainian Support Forces Command reported on August 9 that Russian forces in Ukraine are increasing their use of chemical attacks and are largely using K-51 and RG-VO hand gas grenades with riot control agents (RCAS) that are prohibited by the Chemical Weapons Convention (CWC). Ukrainian officials reported that Russian forces used chemical agents and possibly weapons 358 times in July 2024 and 3570 times from February 15, 2023, to July 24, 2024.[34]
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 10, 2024 8:02:25 GMT
Russian propaganda claims to have wiped out a ukrainian brigade.
I think theyve destroyed Ukraine's tanks 2-3 times each so far.
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Aug 10, 2024 8:58:56 GMT
One very smart and reliable guy on twitter said: "More and more Russian reinforcements will likely start arriving in the Kursk direction in the coming few days. Russian artillery rate of fire will increase and they will start counter attacking. This is when we will see if Ukraine had a solid plan or not." Sounds sensible. We might not have an idea on whether overall it's good or bad results for weeks I think. Seen some abandoned Russian tanks in Ukrainian controlled area. If Ukraine can steal them that would help. There are rumours that russia is moving units from inside Ukraine to defend Kursk. If russia has to pull many units from the front then that would couny as success IMO. This guy on Twitter was actually one of the people I'd read about the children's hospital not being a deliberate target, from a previous discussion. It seems like this move into Kursk was the type of thing afu needed to try in order to shift momentum and we'll see in the next few weeks if they're successful. I still argue for a peaceful solution and end to fighting asap, which is more likely when there is a balance on the ground. Nobody wants to negotiate when they feel like they're already winning. Zelensky has started making comments about negotiations with Russia and about finding a resolution by the end of the year and this military movement might make their negotiating position a lot stronger than it was a week ago
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 10, 2024 14:09:33 GMT
It seems like this move into Kursk was the type of thing afu needed to try in order to shift momentum and we'll see in the next few weeks if they're successful. I still argue for a peaceful solution and end to fighting asap, which is more likely when there is a balance on the ground. Nobody wants to negotiate when they feel like they're already winning. Zelensky has started making comments about negotiations with Russia and about finding a resolution by the end of the year and this military movement might make their negotiating position a lot stronger than it was a week ago The problem for ukraine is rhat russka wants to exterminate their culture and dominate them as part of the Russian empire. You can't negotiate with that by just surrendering and constantly promising to reward them with new territories every time. The fastest way to long term peace, with the lowest costs and fewest deaths, is to equip Ukraine to crush the russian army. I just don't see any other option, despite the russian demands for surrender that some westerners push as "peace".
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Post by LDE76 on Aug 10, 2024 14:33:07 GMT
A little Ukrainian humour:
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Aug 11, 2024 0:52:14 GMT
It seems like this move into Kursk was the type of thing afu needed to try in order to shift momentum and we'll see in the next few weeks if they're successful. I still argue for a peaceful solution and end to fighting asap, which is more likely when there is a balance on the ground. Nobody wants to negotiate when they feel like they're already winning. Zelensky has started making comments about negotiations with Russia and about finding a resolution by the end of the year and this military movement might make their negotiating position a lot stronger than it was a week ago The problem for ukraine is rhat russka wants to exterminate their culture and dominate them as part of the Russian empire. You can't negotiate with that by just surrendering and constantly promising to reward them with new territories every time. The fastest way to long term peace, with the lowest costs and fewest deaths, is to equip Ukraine to crush the russian army. I just don't see any other option, despite the russian demands for surrender that some westerners push as "peace". I understand this view and you could be right but I don't really agree and hope that you're wrong 😂. You won't catch many serious historians comparing Putin to Hitler, for example. He's a pragmatist. Making a peace agreement also doesn't mean that Ukraine just sit back and hope that Putin leave them alone out of the goodness of his heart. As I see it, the main problem with your position is that you're trying to have it both ways. First way is that the Russian regime and Putin are absolute evil and there's no way of negotiating with them ever. Yet... you'll hope that they are totally defeated (actually it would be interesting to know where you think the victory line for Ukraine should be? From your posts that I've seen I would guess up to and including Crimea?) and don't take the world with them. A western leader defeated in such a way would face a crushing electoral defeat but that isn't really how Russia works. I don't see how an authoritarian leader physically survives a defeat like that. Hitler would absolutely have hit the nuclear button if he had it in his bunker. So, is Putin Hitler, or not? You might say that the Russian people wouldn't allow him to do anything crazy and there could be a peaceful regime change. I don't think regime change in Russia leads to a more west friendly situation and there's also the possibility that the entire country breaks up and we see warlords like the guy in Chechnya picking up nuclear weapons. I know this is a very long post with lots of what ifs, I suppose I'm just saying that I think the risks are too big going all the way in this direction. These countries and people will ultimately still be neighbours wherever the lines end up
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Post by lordb on Aug 11, 2024 7:08:28 GMT
The problem for ukraine is rhat russka wants to exterminate their culture and dominate them as part of the Russian empire. You can't negotiate with that by just surrendering and constantly promising to reward them with new territories every time. The fastest way to long term peace, with the lowest costs and fewest deaths, is to equip Ukraine to crush the russian army. I just don't see any other option, despite the russian demands for surrender that some westerners push as "peace". I understand this view and you could be right but I don't really agree and hope that you're wrong 😂. You won't catch many serious historians comparing Putin to Hitler, for example. He's a pragmatist. Making a peace agreement also doesn't mean that Ukraine just sit back and hope that Putin leave them alone out of the goodness of his heart. As I see it, the main problem with your position is that you're trying to have it both ways. First way is that the Russian regime and Putin are absolute evil and there's no way of negotiating with them ever. Yet... you'll hope that they are totally defeated (actually it would be interesting to know where you think the victory line for Ukraine should be? From your posts that I've seen I would guess up to and including Crimea?) and don't take the world with them. A western leader defeated in such a way would face a crushing electoral defeat but that isn't really how Russia works. I don't see how an authoritarian leader physically survives a defeat like that. Hitler would absolutely have hit the nuclear button if he had it in his bunker. So, is Putin Hitler, or not? You might say that the Russian people wouldn't allow him to do anything crazy and there could be a peaceful regime change. I don't think regime change in Russia leads to a more west friendly situation and there's also the possibility that the entire country breaks up and we see warlords like the guy in Chechnya picking up nuclear weapons. I know this is a very long post with lots of what ifs, I suppose I'm just saying that I think the risks are too big going all the way in this direction. These countries and people will ultimately still be neighbours wherever the lines end up Putin is more pragmatic than Hitler but he's most definitely not a pragmatist He's a cold stereotype dictator who wants his legacy as such he will never stick to any peace agreement, in that sense he is like Hitler. He'd just use a peace to rebuild and then come back for more However Russia can't achieve militarily what he wants so the more he forces it, the more he fails to achieve genuine victory the weaker his position becomes He absolutely isn't going to die peacefully of old age in his own bed Once his violent death happens there will be chaos in Russia, that's when they will leave Ukraine Probably be a long haul till then
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Post by mtrstudent on Aug 11, 2024 10:24:16 GMT
Seeing videos of Ukrainian flags being hoisted in a bunch of russian villages inside Kursk.
I'm waiting for people to say that Putin needs to accept the new realities and trade land away to stop the bloodshed.
The big difference of course is that Ukraine isn't trying to conquer this land, they're just trying to defend their lives and freedom and would give up all of Kursk if Russia just went home.
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Post by OldStokie on Aug 11, 2024 10:32:05 GMT
I heard on the news yesterday that Putin is emptying his jails and sending them to the front line. He's done this before but he must be desperate to do it again.
OS.
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