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Post by Foster on Feb 24, 2022 13:10:03 GMT
You ve been watching too much CNN mate.....best take a breather. So you don't think the Tory party are funded by Russians close to Putin? I mean he made an ex KGB officer a fucking Lord. He's in it up to his eyeballs. Why were the sanctions so weak that we did the other day? Do you think it was just a mistake? Why are you insistent on arguing with people who agree with your opinion. You're not telling anyone anything new. It's fucking weird.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 24, 2022 13:10:04 GMT
It's not. Certain people in this country need to give their heads a wobble and realise that they've been duped and are part of the problem. I mean the talk about pronouns above shows that. It's a small thing, weaponised by the right who are in bed with an anit LGBTQ+ regime. It's all tied. People won't want to admit it. They may not see it/want to see it. The right are up to their bastard eyeballs in Putin. If ANYONE can make any sense of this post, please explain it to me because its making my head hurt trying to understand it. I think Bayern's been possessed by Benji and longdistancekiddie 😆
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:10:17 GMT
Being into anything woke? What does that even mean? From what I can see, woke is what people with prejudices call people who have a conscience. Be more woke. You're the one that brought 'woke' into the conversation. If you yourself don't know what it means then I suggest sticking to more familiar vocabulary. I did because it's part of this bullshit cultural war that should mean fuck all. Who cares what gender people identify as? Why does that bother you? And where does it all stem from? Trump and Steve Bannon. Chief Russian puppets and in the latter a player in Brexit. It's all linked. Just wake up.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:11:15 GMT
I wish all this political shit would just fuck off its not about politics its about a war in Europe. It's not about politics? Really?
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Post by Foster on Feb 24, 2022 13:11:26 GMT
You're the one that brought 'woke' into the conversation. If you yourself don't know what it means then I suggest sticking to more familiar vocabulary. I did because it's part of this bullshit cultural war that should mean fuck all. Who cares what gender people identify as? Why does that bother you? And where does it all stem from? Trump and Steve Bannon. Chief Russian puppets and in the latter a player in Brexit. It's all linked. Just wake up. It doesn't bother me. What's your point? Why don't you fuck off and argue with yourself.
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Post by franklin on Feb 24, 2022 13:12:16 GMT
I wish all this political shit would just fuck off its not about politics its about a war in Europe. It's not about politics? Really? No its not about labour or Tories if you want to trash a thread on politics there are numerous to post on.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 24, 2022 13:12:37 GMT
Yeah, yeah, yeah. You regularly post some inane drivel. This is about inane as you’ve got. Which is saying something. So you're not learning or taking responsibility then. Standard. And a massive shame. It must be hard to admit when you've been conned? Still struggling to understand how it's the Tories or Brexit's fault that Russia has invaded Ukraine 😆 Did you go to the match last night, and if so did someone slip angel dust into your Bovril?
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 24, 2022 13:12:53 GMT
The Tories are funded by people close to Putin. The Russians have interfered in our elections, in our politics and want to fracture Europe. Brexit is the cornerstone of that. The current Tory leadership are in bed with the very people we're meant to be at war with. Keep not understanding it if you want. Plead ignorance. But this is fucked up. And the right wing across Europe are up to their eyeballs with Putin. They have been in bed with him for the last 15 years. I despair how far the right, the Tory party have gone. There are no morals there. And there seems to be no willing from people who have voted for them to admit they do anything wrong. It's awful. You ve been watching too much CNN mate.....best take a breather. But I thought the Tories gave all their mates massive ppe contracts to make billions so they could got £25k donations or whatever yet the people funding them millions got nothing seems strange or just completely made up bollocks.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:14:00 GMT
I did because it's part of this bullshit cultural war that should mean fuck all. Who cares what gender people identify as? Why does that bother you? And where does it all stem from? Trump and Steve Bannon. Chief Russian puppets and in the latter a player in Brexit. It's all linked. Just wake up. It doesn't bother me. What's your point? Why don't you fuck off and argue with yourself. You've bought it into an argument. You've weaponised it. You've taken part in the cultural war they want. They being the right, who are allied with Putin. It's part of the problem, part of the way they want to split the west and allow Putin to get away with his shit. It may only seem small but it's part of a wider campaign that has been going on for years.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 24, 2022 13:14:38 GMT
I did because it's part of this bullshit cultural war that should mean fuck all. Who cares what gender people identify as? Why does that bother you? And where does it all stem from? Trump and Steve Bannon. Chief Russian puppets and in the latter a player in Brexit. It's all linked. Just wake up. It doesn't bother me. What's your point? Why don't you fuck off and argue with yourself. His tin foil hat must have a rip
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:15:04 GMT
So you're not learning or taking responsibility then. Standard. And a massive shame. It must be hard to admit when you've been conned? Still struggling to understand how it's the Tories or Brexit's fault that Russia has invaded Ukraine 😆 Did you go to the match last night, and if so did someone slip angel dust into your Bovril? If you can't see how it's all linked then that's your issue not mine. If you voted for Brexit or the Tories then you have been played by the Russians. Well done.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:16:10 GMT
It doesn't bother me. What's your point? Why don't you fuck off and argue with yourself. His tin foil hat must have a rip Ah so the Tories aren't funded by people close to Putin. And the main players in Brexit aren't close to Putin either. There's no hidden report on Russian influence in British politics. Open your eyes.
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Post by Foster on Feb 24, 2022 13:16:38 GMT
It doesn't bother me. What's your point? Why don't you fuck off and argue with yourself. You've bought it into an argument. You've weaponised it. You've taken part in the cultural war they want. They being the right, who are allied with Putin. It's part of the problem, part of the way they want to split the west and allow Putin to get away with his shit. It may only seem small but it's part of a wider campaign that has been going on for years. Tell you what mate. You argue with yourself over whatever the hell you're on about, and the rest of us will actually discuss what's happening in the real world, about real people and about real problems.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 24, 2022 13:17:32 GMT
You ve been watching too much CNN mate.....best take a breather. So you don't think the Tory party are funded by Russians close to Putin? I mean he made an ex KGB officer a fucking Lord. He's in it up to his eyeballs. Why were the sanctions so weak that we did the other day? Do you think it was just a mistake? Garbage the UK has sent defensive and offensive weapons far more useful than sanctions and the helmets germany sent, germany's sanctions include we might pribably not use nord stream 2 but we will still use NS1.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:17:44 GMT
It's not about politics? Really? No its not about labour or Tories if you want to trash a thread on politics there are numerous to post on. Not it's not about Labour. It's about how government has cosied up to Putin and his cronies. It enables shit like this to happen. It's not the reason, there are hundreds nigh thousands. But it shouldn't be swept under the carpet because people don't like hearing about it because it's a bit too close to home.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:19:31 GMT
So you don't think the Tory party are funded by Russians close to Putin? I mean he made an ex KGB officer a fucking Lord. He's in it up to his eyeballs. Why were the sanctions so weak that we did the other day? Do you think it was just a mistake? Garbage the UK has sent defensive and offensive weapons far more useful than sanctions and the helmets germany sent, germany's sanctions include we might pribably not use nord stream 2 but we will still use NS1. Germany are too close to them because of NordStream2 and have acted absolutely disgracefully and should be fucking ashamed of themselves.
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Post by miltonstokienew on Feb 24, 2022 13:21:49 GMT
I did because it's part of this bullshit cultural war that should mean fuck all. Who cares what gender people identify as? Why does that bother you? And where does it all stem from? Trump and Steve Bannon. Chief Russian puppets and in the latter a player in Brexit. It's all linked. Just wake up. It doesn't bother me. What's your point? Why don't you fuck off and argue with yourself. Bayern just doesn't " fuck off" unfortunately. Unless it's about pie throwing
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Post by franklin on Feb 24, 2022 13:22:39 GMT
No its not about labour or Tories if you want to trash a thread on politics there are numerous to post on. Not it's not about Labour. It's about how government has cosied up to Putin and his cronies. It enables shit like this to happen. It's not the reason, there are hundreds nigh thousands. But it shouldn't be swept under the carpet because people don't like hearing about it because it's a bit too close to home. I'm trying to hear and read what's going on but you're spamming the thread with shit as normal.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 24, 2022 13:23:44 GMT
Still struggling to understand how it's the Tories or Brexit's fault that Russia has invaded Ukraine 😆 Did you go to the match last night, and if so did someone slip angel dust into your Bovril? If you can't see how it's all linked then that's your issue not mine. If you voted for Brexit or the Tories then you have been played by the Russians. Well done. You're the only one with issues fella I'm on my lunch break, still narked a bit over last night and ordering some shit off Amazon 😆
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 24, 2022 13:25:08 GMT
Garbage the UK has sent defensive and offensive weapons far more useful than sanctions and the helmets germany sent, germany's sanctions include we might pribably not use nord stream 2 but we will still use NS1. Germany are too close to them because of NordStream2 and have acted absolutely disgracefully and should be fucking ashamed of themselves. And the offensive / defensive weapons the UK has sent ? Pretty sure if they were funding the tories as you claim now would be the time to call in favours and stop missiles rather than sanctions.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:25:42 GMT
Not it's not about Labour. It's about how government has cosied up to Putin and his cronies. It enables shit like this to happen. It's not the reason, there are hundreds nigh thousands. But it shouldn't be swept under the carpet because people don't like hearing about it because it's a bit too close to home. I'm trying to hear and read what's going on but you're spamming the thread with shit as normal. You don't think politics is part of a geopolitical war ffs
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Post by Foster on Feb 24, 2022 13:27:01 GMT
Apparently, according to Bayern, it's the fault of the Oatcake members that all this shit started.
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Post by serpico on Feb 24, 2022 13:27:05 GMT
Putin would have anticipated sanctions so they're hardly going to act as any kind of deterrent, as cold as it sounds I think you just have to let Putin have the win on this one, it'll upset the laptop bombardiers but its not worth starting a shooting war with Russia over when theres thousands of their nukes aimed at us!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:28:49 GMT
Germany are too close to them because of NordStream2 and have acted absolutely disgracefully and should be fucking ashamed of themselves. And the offensive / defensive weapons the UK has sent ? Pretty sure if they were funding the tories as you claim now would be the time to call in favours and stop missiles rather than sanctions. Very good but the tip of the iceberg. Our sanctions were almost pointless. They are funding the Tories, that's not a claim, it's happening. "The biggest single donor of this group is the financier Lubov Chernukhin, who has donated £700,000. A British national since 2011, she is married to Vladimir Chernukhin, a former deputy finance minister under Putin." www.theguardian.com/politics/2022/feb/23/oligarchs-funding-tories
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Post by lordb on Feb 24, 2022 13:29:03 GMT
Putin would have anticipated sanctions so they're hardly going to act as any kind of deterrent, as cold as it sounds I think you just have to let Putin have the win on this one, it'll upset the laptop bombardiers but its not worth starting a shooting war with Russia over when theres thousands of their nukes aimed at us! & then we he targets the Baltic states do we do the same? Poland? no easy answers but doing absolutely nothing isn't any kind of option
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Post by dutchstokie on Feb 24, 2022 13:30:01 GMT
You ve been watching too much CNN mate.....best take a breather. So you don't think the Tory party are funded by Russians close to Putin? I mean he made an ex KGB officer a fucking Lord. He's in it up to his eyeballs. Why were the sanctions so weak that we did the other day? Do you think it was just a mistake? I couldnt give a shit who funds who, who backs who, whose side he or she is on. As long as me and my kids are safe Its a message board for opinions bayern - nothing more. I just simply dont understand some of your posts and the way you bring it across thats all...... I know Im not the sharpest knife in the door when it comes to this sort of stuff, but to try and get your head around some of the incomprehensible nonsense you come out with makes it doubly difficult sometimes. Theres plenty who post on this board who think they know whats going on and use it as if its their own extensive knowledge, when in reality they know about as much as me which is fuck all Again its all opinions......
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Post by Foster on Feb 24, 2022 13:30:04 GMT
Putin would have anticipated sanctions so they're hardly going to act as any kind of deterrent, as cold as it sounds I think you just have to let Putin have the win on this one, it'll upset the laptop bombardiers but its not worth starting a shooting war with Russia over when theres thousands of their nukes aimed at us! Isn't that relative to the point that if can get away with this, he'll only think that he can do the same again... and again... and again. Letting him get away with this sets a dangerous precedent that's already in play.
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Post by franklin on Feb 24, 2022 13:30:29 GMT
I'm trying to hear and read what's going on but you're spamming the thread with shit as normal. You don't think politics is part of a geopolitical war ffs You are incredibly ignorant and on that note I'll leave you to spam away.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 24, 2022 13:33:45 GMT
You don't think politics is part of a geopolitical war ffs You are incredibly ignorant and on that note I'll leave you to spam away. I'm not ignorant. How is politics not part of a war. You haven't explained it. I'm all ears. Of course there is no answer because it's complete bollocks.
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Post by lordb on Feb 24, 2022 13:34:01 GMT
So you don't think the Tory party are funded by Russians close to Putin? I mean he made an ex KGB officer a fucking Lord. He's in it up to his eyeballs. Why were the sanctions so weak that we did the other day? Do you think it was just a mistake? I couldnt give a shit who funds who, who backs who, whose side he or she is on. As long as me and my kids are safe Its a message board for opinions bayern - nothing more. I just simply dont understand some of your posts and the way you bring it across thats all...... I know Im not the sharpest knife in the door when it comes to this sort of stuff, but to try and get your head around some of the incomprehensible nonsense you come out with makes it doubly difficult sometimes. Theres plenty who post on this board who think they know whats going on and use it as if its their own extensive knowledge, when in reality they know about as much as me which is fuck all Again its all opinions...... who funds who indirectly can & does affects your kids safety
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