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Post by andystokey on Sept 6, 2022 22:28:29 GMT
It's pretty amazing how she has managed to position herself as providing a whole new government to fix the mess the last incompetent lot made. Without her or the exact same ministers being any way responsible for the previous shitshow.
Winston Smith push Liz Truss past into the memory hole and update an article about Miniplenty down the pneumatic tube.
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Post by noustie on Sept 7, 2022 6:28:13 GMT
Fourth Prime Minister in 6 years is like the Watford FC management model. Wonder if any members of the cabinet showing a hint of potential will be immediately loaned out to the Italian government?
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Post by thevoid on Sept 7, 2022 6:44:50 GMT
Bit like a few on here ay 👀 You seem to think that I post as someone else but I dont and never have had a different name. But if it makes you feel better babe, crack on. I doubt you'd have the brain capacity to remember more than one password (which is probably northface69) anyway, you fucking flange 😀 Anyway, shouldn't you be off to Thorpe Park with your mates today, Jay? You might bump into 'longdistancekiddie' on the rides!
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 7, 2022 7:04:35 GMT
Fourth Prime Minister in 6 years is like the Watford FC management model. Wonder if any members of the cabinet showing a hint of potential will be immediately loaned out to the Italian government? Nice analogy. ![:D](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/kwfoKwtHI0jglJZ4qZf6.gif) Scotland meanwhile is a veritable paragon of stability… two leaders in 15 years. And everything is going swimmingly up here. ![8-|](//storage.proboards.com/800541/images/rY_vRFLA3mqqdMbEG4cF.gif)
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Post by redstriper on Sept 7, 2022 7:47:28 GMT
So, we now have the main three cabinet posts filled.
Every one of them from her clique, all of them born in London, with seats in the south east. Say goodbye to levelling up, but it was just a smokescreen anyway.
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Post by thevoid on Sept 7, 2022 11:06:00 GMT
Wouldn’t be the first time. Liz had an affair with ex-Tory MP Mark Field back in the early noughties. Surprised that didn’t get more coverage in the media. Very surprised her hubby stuck with her. She clearly rocks in the bedroom😉 Nice pins I'll give her that
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 7, 2022 14:57:26 GMT
First Truss u-turn since she's become PM?
Fair play though, it's a good (and surprising) one ...
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 7, 2022 15:31:21 GMT
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Post by yeswilko on Sept 7, 2022 15:54:16 GMT
He's a great journalist is Krishnan.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 7, 2022 16:10:51 GMT
Another person who has benefitted from an open immigration policy very keen to close the door behind her. It’s good to know that this government will be as open and transparent as the last one.
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Post by partickpotter on Sept 7, 2022 16:16:01 GMT
Like so many politicians… she seems completely unable to answer a simple question thereby making herself look ridiculous. It’s pathetic.
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 7, 2022 17:07:22 GMT
First Truss u-turn since she's become PM? Fair play though, it's a good (and surprising) one ... Hasn’t she just shelved the bill in the current format, so she can rewrite it in a much more right wing way? Be careful what you wish for saying this is “a good one”.
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Post by oggyoggy on Sept 7, 2022 17:10:24 GMT
Most privately educated cabinet since Major. 7% of pupils go to private schools, but 23 out of 31 are privately educated in the cabinet, or 74%. 3 from Grammar schools and 5 from comprehensives.
“Diversity which doesn’t account for social class is meaningless” Taj Ali.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 7, 2022 17:26:32 GMT
Another person who has benefitted from an open immigration policy very keen to close the door behind her. It’s good to know that this government will be as open and transparent as the last one. Who doesn't want to be in a society with anonymous members paid for by public money? The Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei or NSDAP Research Group seems a perfectly reasonable use of public money. I'm especially drawn to the idea that the home secretary, the highest law making authority in the land, is part of a society that meets in private to discuss what's best for all of us.
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Post by Boothen on Sept 7, 2022 17:51:27 GMT
Can't believe this shower of shit is already bragging about how 'good' they are because they have no white men in the top four positions. Now call me old fashioned, but I'd rather have the person best suited for the job doing said job, regardless of ethnicity and what they happen to have betwixt their legs. Little wonder this country is in the state it is.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 7, 2022 17:58:55 GMT
Another person who has benefitted from an open immigration policy very keen to close the door behind her. It’s good to know that this government will be as open and transparent as the last one. A tad like the last labour government who had the Benefits of free university education themselves and then drawing the draw bridge up and charging people
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 7, 2022 18:07:16 GMT
First Truss u-turn since she's become PM? Fair play though, it's a good (and surprising) one ... Hasn’t she just shelved the bill in the current format, so she can rewrite it in a much more right wing way? Be careful what you wish for saying this is “a good one”.
"Downing Street declined to guarantee that a new Bill of Rights will be introduced during the current Parliament."
"Director of Big Brother Watch Silkie Carlo welcomed the government's decision to shelve the legislation as "a huge win for the public".
I guess time will tell.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 7, 2022 18:15:54 GMT
Hasn’t she just shelved the bill in the current format, so she can rewrite it in a much more right wing way? Be careful what you wish for saying this is “a good one”. "Downing Street declined to guarantee that a new Bill of Rights will be introduced during the current Parliament." "Director of Big Brother Watch Silkie Carlo welcomed the government's decision to shelve the legislation as "a huge win for the public". I guess time will tell.
Sadly if Braverman gets her claws into this the judiciary will be completely sidelined in decision making. "Braverman, an ardent Brexiteer, is a perfect fit in this context. With a long-standing grievance against the Human Rights Act and a pristine illiberal voting record, a few weeks before her promotion, she wrote a piece arguing that “parliament must retrieve power ceded to another place—the courts.” The headline, while likely not written by Braverman, declared: “People we elect must take back control from people we don’t. Who include the judges.”
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Post by Paul Spencer on Sept 7, 2022 18:53:56 GMT
"Downing Street declined to guarantee that a new Bill of Rights will be introduced during the current Parliament." "Director of Big Brother Watch Silkie Carlo welcomed the government's decision to shelve the legislation as "a huge win for the public". I guess time will tell.
Sadly if Braverman gets her claws into this the judiciary will be completely sidelined in decision making. "Braverman, an ardent Brexiteer, is a perfect fit in this context. With a long-standing grievance against the Human Rights Act and a pristine illiberal voting record, a few weeks before her promotion, she wrote a piece arguing that “parliament must retrieve power ceded to another place—the courts.” The headline, while likely not written by Braverman, declared: “People we elect must take back control from people we don’t. Who include the judges.”From the same article ... "The political battle over human rights hasn't gone away - not least because Suella Braverman, the new home secretary, says she wants the UK to leave the European Convention on Human Rights. That seems vanishingly unlikely under Liz Truss." Of course he could be entirely wrong, hopefully he isn't.
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Post by andystokey on Sept 7, 2022 19:02:17 GMT
Sadly if Braverman gets her claws into this the judiciary will be completely sidelined in decision making. "Braverman, an ardent Brexiteer, is a perfect fit in this context. With a long-standing grievance against the Human Rights Act and a pristine illiberal voting record, a few weeks before her promotion, she wrote a piece arguing that “parliament must retrieve power ceded to another place—the courts.” The headline, while likely not written by Braverman, declared: “People we elect must take back control from people we don’t. Who include the judges.”From the same article ... "The political battle over human rights hasn't gone away - not least because Suella Braverman, the new home secretary, says she wants the UK to leave the European Convention on Human Rights. That seems vanishingly unlikely under Liz Truss." Of course he could be entirely wrong, hopefully he isn't. In July she wrote in response to the Rwanda hiatus. “Leaving the ECHR is the only solution which solves the problem, and is entirely consistent with international law,” she wrote in July’s issue of the House magazine. I reckon the only reason it has been shelved is to go for broke, sadly I'm not optimistic.
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Post by OldStokie on Sept 7, 2022 19:12:52 GMT
It's not surprising that we have a secret society within political parties, but the ERG is funded from the public purse and should be open to scrutiny. And let's never forget that The Masons secret society is enormous in this country and the power they hold through their connections determines much of how our society works and which pipers play the tunes.
As for Braverman, she's dangerous and in the same mould (but less effective) as Steve Bannon is in the world of high flyers.
OS.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 7, 2022 19:18:02 GMT
Another person who has benefitted from an open immigration policy very keen to close the door behind her. It’s good to know that this government will be as open and transparent as the last one. A tad like the last labour government who had the Benefits of free university education themselves and then drawing the draw bridge up and charging people Agree and something that shouldn’t have happened. The challenges that young people are facing now are not insignificant. I understand the focus being on the elderly and children who can’t eat or keep themselves warm (it’s obvious) but being expected to borrow 8x for a house or pay more in rent than people pay on mortgages. Then being asked to pay up to nearly 30k for a degree just doesn’t seem right. While there can be a case made for each everyone making that case needs to understand they didn’t have to deal with these terrible options.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 7, 2022 20:14:39 GMT
A tad like the last labour government who had the Benefits of free university education themselves and then drawing the draw bridge up and charging people Agree and something that shouldn’t have happened. The challenges that young people are facing now are not insignificant. I understand the focus being on the elderly and children who can’t eat or keep themselves warm (it’s obvious) but being expected to borrow 8x for a house or pay more in rent than people pay on mortgages. Then being asked to pay up to nearly 30k for a degree just doesn’t seem right. While there can be a case made for each everyone making that case needs to understand they didn’t have to deal with these terrible options. Pretty much spot on
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Post by gawa on Sept 7, 2022 20:35:31 GMT
Another person who has benefitted from an open immigration policy very keen to close the door behind her. It’s good to know that this government will be as open and transparent as the last one. A tad like the last labour government who had the Benefits of free university education themselves and then drawing the draw bridge up and charging people LOL. As if you're trying to blame the extortionate University fees at present on labour. Let's discuss it though seeing as you raised it. Yes, Labour did introduce university fees on 1998 at £1,000 per year. This increased to £3,000 per year over the course of a decade. Those from low income families, like myself, where also eligible for maitaince grants to help with accommodation etc.. Nobody felt ripped off and the amount we paid felt fair for what we received. Now in the "coalition" government. The tories pushed through a bill to increase uni fees over night from. £3,000 a year to £9,000. Students were suddenly paying more for a year's study, than others born a year earlier were paying for their full course. Then the maitaince grants for low income families were scrapped. Then the bursaries for NHS students slowly got scrapped and replaced with repayable loans. As for Labour. Big bad scary Jeremy Corbyn had it on his manifesto to abolish student loans and bring back maintenaince grants in 2017. At least we've got Mrs Working Class anti woke, anti royal family Lizz Truss here to save us. No student loans being abolished. No corporation tax rises. No taxes on energy companies with record profits in the billions. Instead borrowing billions during a time of inflation and increasing interest rates and freezing energy prices for all. So of course those in the biggest homes with their swimming pools and heating floors saving the most. And those who vote this scum in will mostly be 6 foot under while those who pay 9k a year for an education pay for it with their taxes.* * and then also paying rent to pay of the same peoples mortgages on their 5th home too. Edit: I can spell but I have fat fingers and cba going back through trying to correct typos on my phone. Maintenance.
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Post by thewonderstuff on Sept 7, 2022 20:40:47 GMT
The new Government appointments keep rolling in...
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Post by gawa on Sept 7, 2022 20:52:37 GMT
Agree and something that shouldn’t have happened. The challenges that young people are facing now are not insignificant. I understand the focus being on the elderly and children who can’t eat or keep themselves warm (it’s obvious) but being expected to borrow 8x for a house or pay more in rent than people pay on mortgages. Then being asked to pay up to nearly 30k for a degree just doesn’t seem right. While there can be a case made for each everyone making that case needs to understand they didn’t have to deal with these terrible options. Pretty much spot on If it's spot on you would have voted for the man who pledged to scrap the fees.
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Post by wagsastokie on Sept 7, 2022 21:02:16 GMT
A tad like the last labour government who had the Benefits of free university education themselves and then drawing the draw bridge up and charging people LOL. As if you're trying to blame the extortionate University fees at present on labour. Let's discuss it though seeing as you raised it. Yes, Labour did introduce university fees on 1998 at £1,000 per year. This increased to £3,000 per year over the course of a decade. Those from low income families, like myself, where also eligible for maitaince grants to help with accommodation etc.. Nobody felt ripped off and the amount we paid felt fair for what we received. Now in the "coalition" government. The tories pushed through a bill to increase uni fees over night from. £3,000 a year to £9,000. Students were suddenly paying more for a year's study, than others born a year earlier were paying for their full course. Then the maitaince grants for low income families were scrapped. Then the bursaries for NHS students slowly got scrapped and replaced with repayable loans. As for Labour. Big bad scary Jeremy Corbyn had it on his manifesto to abolish student loans and bring back maintenaince grants in 2017. At least we've got Mrs Working Class anti woke, anti royal family Lizz Truss here to save us. No student loans being abolished. No corporation tax rises. No taxes on energy companies with record profits in the billions. Instead borrowing billions during a time of inflation and increasing interest rates and freezing energy prices for all. So of course those in the biggest homes with their swimming pools and heating floors saving the most. And those who vote this scum in will mostly be 6 foot under while those who pay 9k a year for an education pay for it with their taxes.* * and then also paying rent to pay of the same peoples mortgages on their 5th home too. Edit: I can spell but I have fat fingers and cba going back through trying to correct typos on my phone. Maintenance. 🥱🥱🥱 Ever heard of inflation fees wise the fact is Blair and his lickspital cronies decided we’ll con the daft fuckers to vote for us all we have to do is tell 25 odd percent of the youths who are boarding on being thick as shit you can go to some dodgy polytechnic get a degree in some ology And all your life problems are over Any thing at the time to massage the actual unemployment figures And before you accuse me of a political biases I don’t agree with the education until 18 brought in by the Tory’s just to massage employment figures
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Sept 7, 2022 21:05:27 GMT
LOL. As if you're trying to blame the extortionate University fees at present on labour. Let's discuss it though seeing as you raised it. Yes, Labour did introduce university fees on 1998 at £1,000 per year. This increased to £3,000 per year over the course of a decade. Those from low income families, like myself, where also eligible for maitaince grants to help with accommodation etc.. Nobody felt ripped off and the amount we paid felt fair for what we received. Now in the "coalition" government. The tories pushed through a bill to increase uni fees over night from. £3,000 a year to £9,000. Students were suddenly paying more for a year's study, than others born a year earlier were paying for their full course. Then the maitaince grants for low income families were scrapped. Then the bursaries for NHS students slowly got scrapped and replaced with repayable loans. As for Labour. Big bad scary Jeremy Corbyn had it on his manifesto to abolish student loans and bring back maintenaince grants in 2017. At least we've got Mrs Working Class anti woke, anti royal family Lizz Truss here to save us. No student loans being abolished. No corporation tax rises. No taxes on energy companies with record profits in the billions. Instead borrowing billions during a time of inflation and increasing interest rates and freezing energy prices for all. So of course those in the biggest homes with their swimming pools and heating floors saving the most. And those who vote this scum in will mostly be 6 foot under while those who pay 9k a year for an education pay for it with their taxes.* * and then also paying rent to pay of the same peoples mortgages on their 5th home too. Edit: I can spell but I have fat fingers and cba going back through trying to correct typos on my phone. Maintenance. 🥱🥱🥱 Ever heard of inflation fees wise the fact is Blair and his lickspital cronies decided we’ll con the daft fuckers to vote for us all we have to do is tell 25 odd percent of the youths who are boarding on being thick as shit you can go to some dodgy polytechnic get a degree in some ology And all your life problems are over Any thing at the time to massage the actual unemployment figures And before you accuse me of a political biases I don’t agree with the education until 18 brought in by the Tory’s just to massage employment figures What was inflation running at when they decided to increase the fees by 300%? Must have been at Zimbabwe levels of inflation.
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Post by Gob Bluth on Sept 7, 2022 21:22:10 GMT
If it's spot on you would have voted for the man who pledged to scrap the fees. It always makes me smile thinking back to this. Remember when the public decided an entire party was untrustworthy because they didn’t have the bargaining power to choose the winning party’s manifesto? Ow the halcyon days of British politics.
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Post by chiprockets on Sept 7, 2022 21:35:05 GMT
🥱🥱🥱 Ever heard of inflation fees wise the fact is Blair and his lickspital cronies decided we’ll con the daft fuckers to vote for us all we have to do is tell 25 odd percent of the youths who are boarding on being thick as shit you can go to some dodgy polytechnic get a degree in some ology And all your life problems are over Any thing at the time to massage the actual unemployment figures And before you accuse me of a political biases I don’t agree with the education until 18 brought in by the Tory’s just to massage employment figures What was inflation running at when they decided to increase the fees by 300%? Must have been at Zimbabwe levels of inflation. careful introducing facts & logic to wagsarwstokie usually doesn't go down well.
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