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Post by Foster on Jul 25, 2022 20:46:26 GMT
Why does Rishi keep talking about Tory values when they're basic normal human values. Like they don't apply to people unless they're Tories.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 25, 2022 20:47:01 GMT
Why does Rishi keep talking about Tory values when they're basic normal human values. Like they don't apply to people unless they're Tories. Because he's appealing to the membership to vote for him. |
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Post by Deleted on Jul 25, 2022 20:48:20 GMT
Jesus Christ Keith, this is an open goal even your lethal namesake couldn't miss...!
Roll on the next election.
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 25, 2022 20:48:53 GMT
As a character, personality, strength of character, Boris would probably come over as better than these two , in the moment, irrespective of his past. As irresponsible as that sounds.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 25, 2022 20:50:12 GMT
Didn't Liz just say she deleted twitter off her phone when all this started?? So this tweet 45 mins before the programme wasn't her or she lied in live TV?
The very moment she said it, my missus said ... "Has she fuck deleted her twitter!"  |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 25, 2022 20:50:14 GMT
Jesus Christ Keith, this is an open goal even your lethal namesake couldn't miss...! Roll on the next election. Keith was busy trying to lose one of the safest Labour cities in the UK today....... |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 25, 2022 20:50:16 GMT
As a character, personality, strength of character, Boris would probably come over as better than these two , in the moment, irrespective of his past. As irresponsible as that sounds. Strength of character  |
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Post by Foster on Jul 25, 2022 20:51:04 GMT
Why does Rishi keep talking about Tory values when they're basic normal human values. Like they don't apply to people unless they're Tories. Because he's appealing to the membership to vote for him. Yeah but they're not specifically Tory values are they. It's not correct to portray them as such. Saying that, Truss isn't up to much. No specifics, no details on how she'll manage things other than rack up 3 years interest on debt payments. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 25, 2022 20:53:11 GMT
Didn't Liz just say she deleted twitter off her phone when all this started?? So this tweet 45 mins before the programme wasn't her or she lied in live TV? The very moment she said it, my missus said ... "Has she fuck deleted her twitter!" I only know because I didn't know he'd died until I saw her tweet. So either she has a PA who tweets insincere platitudes on her behalf or she lied. Both aren't a good look. |
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 25, 2022 20:53:13 GMT
Because he's appealing to the membership to vote for him. Yeah but they're not specifically Tory values are they. It's not correct to portray them as such. Saying that, Truss isn't up to much. No specifics, no details on how she'll manage things other than rack up 3 years interest on debt payments. No, I know, but he's not talking to us, he's talking to the membership who'll vote for him or not, they're the ones who want to hear that he thinks Tory values are inherently "Tory". |
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 25, 2022 20:53:22 GMT
As a character, personality, strength of character, Boris would probably come over as better than these two , in the moment, irrespective of his past. As irresponsible as that sounds. Strength of character Perhaps I meant personality.....he's playing a part in this debate. He's a bit " stronger" than you give him credit for. He does have leadership qualities, even if you don't like where he is leading. And I'm not a Boris fan. Lol. |
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Post by chad on Jul 25, 2022 20:53:41 GMT
So , is Sir keir the answer? I bloody well hope not |
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Post by stokemark on Jul 25, 2022 20:54:07 GMT
Is anyone from Stoke actually there ? Hardly a Potteries accent to be heard
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Post by chad on Jul 25, 2022 20:55:07 GMT
Truss is getting shafted from all sides here currently. General, It's funny how we see things differently. I think she is coming over much better than Rishni. I don't like the BBC interventions/ interruptions....what is their agenda?. I'm not a Truss fan , but I think she is winning this by miles. Rishi winning hands down for me |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jul 25, 2022 20:56:09 GMT
A distinct lack of Stoke accents in this Stoke audience!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 25, 2022 20:57:13 GMT
That is the biggest problem in all of this, Mr Starmer will never be the answer.
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Post by andystokey on Jul 25, 2022 20:57:52 GMT
If Liz keeps her promises from the manifesto then ask.
Extra funding for the NHS, with 50,000 more nurses and 50 million more GP surgery appointments a year. Oh yeah and 40 hospitals.
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Post by andystokey on Jul 25, 2022 20:58:59 GMT
Is anyone from Stoke actually there ? Hardly a Potteries accent to be heard The audience attendence was a pointless gimmick as was the chosen location. |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jul 25, 2022 21:00:00 GMT
Tory candidates unanimously agreeing they want to ban strikes in a debate in Stoke on Trent.
What a dark dark day for this City.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 25, 2022 21:01:16 GMT
If Liz keeps her promises from the manifesto then ask. Extra funding for the NHS, with 50,000 more nurses and 50 million more GP surgery appointments a year. Oh yeah and 40 hospitals. Don't forget all the additional border control officers. All while cutting taxes. If it was Labour, they'd be saying something about a magic money tree and unaffordable pie in the sky nonsense, but you won't see that in the news tomorrow. |
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Post by chad on Jul 25, 2022 21:01:26 GMT
Tory candidates unanimously agreeing they want to ban strikes in a debate in Stoke on Trent. What a dark dark day for this City. They didn’t say they would ban strikes. They said they would ban them in public services |
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Post by thewonderstuff on Jul 25, 2022 21:02:47 GMT
Tory candidates unanimously agreeing they want to ban strikes in a debate in Stoke on Trent. What a dark dark day for this City. They didn’t say they would ban strikes. They said they would ban them in public services Yes they would ban strikes. The sick bastards. |
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Post by andystokey on Jul 25, 2022 21:02:47 GMT
I knew I should have watched Get Carter on ITV4
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 25, 2022 21:04:01 GMT
Strength of character Perhaps I meant personality.....he's playing a part in this debate. He's a bit " stronger" than you give him credit for. He does have leadership qualities, even if you don't like where he is leading. And I'm not a Boris fan. Lol. Whatever you meant, I'm pretty sure strength of character was the wrong choice! Synonyms for strength of character: · dignity · discretion · poise · restraint · reticence · self-discipline · sobriety · stoicism. A person who has strong values. They are able to do right when others are pressuring them to do wrong |
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Post by stokemark on Jul 25, 2022 21:05:16 GMT
You have to laugh (cry) that people from Stoke voted for this bunch of muppets
Personally I am fortunate enough to benefit financially from a Conservative Government over a Labour one but why people who are struggling on low salaries support any of this lot I simply don’t know.
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Post by chad on Jul 25, 2022 21:07:52 GMT
You have to laugh (cry) that people from Stoke voted for this bunch of muppets Personally I am fortunate enough to benefit financially from a Conservative Government over a Labour one but why people who are struggling on low salaries support any of this lot I simply don’t know. Because the alternative is Kier Starmer maybe ? |
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 25, 2022 21:08:09 GMT
Pair of entitled pricks.
Thought Rishi bossed it but will be interesting how he came across to the Tory membership.
Truss is just an empty vessel. Devoid of ideas, was an interesting question exactly what would Bojo needed to have done for her to resign.
Poor old Faisal sat there for 1hr for 5 mins work at the start 🤣
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Post by bigjohnritchie on Jul 25, 2022 21:12:35 GMT
Perhaps I meant personality.....he's playing a part in this debate. He's a bit " stronger" than you give him credit for. He does have leadership qualities, even if you don't like where he is leading. And I'm not a Boris fan. Lol. Whatever you meant, I'm pretty sure strength of character was the wrong choice! Synonyms for strength of character: · dignity · discretion · poise · restraint · reticence · self-discipline · sobriety · stoicism. A person who has strong values. They are able to do right when others are pressuring them to do wrong Well done on the definitions 👍 On strength of personality, Boris would have beaten both. Not that , that is relevant. Although leadership qualities are important. It was a choice between these two , as Prime Minister. I'm not a Boris fan , but neither am I as myopic as you in reducing things to personal stuff on the Oatcake and two dimensional on the Tory/ Labour choice. Crack on. |
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Post by Davef on Jul 25, 2022 21:17:23 GMT
"Rishi", "Liz", "Boris"...Christ almighty.
We can't even call the players of the team we support by their Christian names most of the time.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Jul 25, 2022 21:17:55 GMT
Whatever you meant, I'm pretty sure strength of character was the wrong choice! Synonyms for strength of character: · dignity · discretion · poise · restraint · reticence · self-discipline · sobriety · stoicism. A person who has strong values. They are able to do right when others are pressuring them to do wrong Well done on the definitions 👍 On strength of personality, Boris would have beaten both. Not that , that is relevant. Although leadership qualities are important. It was a choice between these two , as Prime Minister. I'm not a Boris fan , but neither am I as myopic as you in reducing things to personal stuff on the Oatcake and two dimensional on the Tory/ Labour choice. Crack on. Oh, I agree that Bozo has bags of personality and charisma. So does Bradley Walsh. I don't want him to run the country either. (Although he'd probably do it less pissed and with less shagging around). |
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