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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:30:55 GMT
Another 2 minutes that we would never have scored in a million years in 😂 Don't disagree but it's the principal. Some teams seem to be given as long as possible to score a la Fergie time but it's the second time this season that I've seen referees blow up early. It's almost as if referees can't wait to ensure we lose. I still think we suffer from the reputation we garnered under Pulis and referees are unwittingly (or even wittingly in some cases) always giving the benefit of doubt to the opposition - if their player goes down it has to be a foul because that's what Stoke are like. It was 20 seconds? I think it was a little mistake because he was a bit shit.
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Post by Royal Donut on Nov 24, 2021 23:31:53 GMT
Please please please tell me this isn't happening, can we really not count.
How many stoke fans does it take to change a light bulb?
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Post by J-Roar on Nov 24, 2021 23:36:23 GMT
Please please please tell me this isn't happening, can we really not count. How many stoke fans does it take to change a light bulb? 89
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 24, 2021 23:36:46 GMT
Don't disagree but it's the principal. Some teams seem to be given as long as possible to score a la Fergie time but it's the second time this season that I've seen referees blow up early. It's almost as if referees can't wait to ensure we lose. I still think we suffer from the reputation we garnered under Pulis and referees are unwittingly (or even wittingly in some cases) always giving the benefit of doubt to the opposition - if their player goes down it has to be a foul because that's what Stoke are like. It was 20 seconds? I think it was a little mistake because he was a bit shit. And couldn't wait to get into the changing rooms to text all his mates that he'd reffed Stoke to a defeat. Give him his due though I did expect him to only indicate 5 minutes added on and was pleasantly surprised at the probably correct 9 minutes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 24, 2021 23:38:15 GMT
It was 20 seconds? I think it was a little mistake because he was a bit shit. And couldn't wait to get into the changing rooms to text all his mates that he'd reffed Stoke to a defeat. Give him his due though I did expect him to only indicate 5 minutes added on and was pleasantly surprised at the probably correct 9 minutes. I think that’s tin foil shite tbh. The refs in this league are crap. That was just a crap ref doing a crap job.
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Post by andyapotter on Nov 24, 2021 23:46:25 GMT
The foul on Tymon (that then led to the cross for Fletcher hitting the post) sums up why diving is rife. It was a penalty. But he didn’t get it because he didn’t go down. We need to start diving. Yes but we can't score the bastards so might as well keep playing.
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 24, 2021 23:49:29 GMT
The foul on Tymon (that then led to the cross for Fletcher hitting the post) sums up why diving is rife. It was a penalty. But he didn’t get it because he didn’t go down. We need to start diving. Yes but we can't score the bastards so might as well keep playing. That's what I said at the time. Our players probably prefer to try and stay on their feet cos no-one wants to take a penalty if they can help it.
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Post by bloodtypered on Nov 25, 2021 0:53:39 GMT
Too Leaniant refs are a danger to players
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Post by kustokie on Nov 25, 2021 1:03:29 GMT
When it gets to 98 on the clock in your corner, that means 9 minutes has passed mate. Do the maths. Your maths needs checking. When it gets to 98 on the clock you move into the 99th minute but 99 minutes aren't completed until the clock moves to 100. EDIT: My maths needs checking too : 9 added on minutes is complete when the clock moves onto 99 not 100 or even 98 - although that is the 99th minute, 99 minutes are not complete until the clock is showing 99. Does anyone really believe those 15-20 seconds would have made any difference? That said the officiating was dreadful.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Nov 25, 2021 1:32:28 GMT
The second time this season the ref hasn't played the MINIMUM (think it was Barnsley at home). Aren't these the basics of the fucking job? 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 There are 9 numbers there which means 9 minutes have passed 😃 Thanks Mr Langford, that’s a wonderful justification.
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Post by nigerianstokie on Nov 25, 2021 1:35:53 GMT
Please please please tell me this isn't happening, can we really not count. How many stoke fans does it take to change a light bulb? 89 Just clearing this up based on what this debate has taught me, that means 90 right?
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Post by boskampsflaps on Nov 25, 2021 1:39:52 GMT
Don't disagree but it's the principal. Some teams seem to be given as long as possible to score a la Fergie time but it's the second time this season that I've seen referees blow up early. It's almost as if referees can't wait to ensure we lose. I still think we suffer from the reputation we garnered under Pulis and referees are unwittingly (or even wittingly in some cases) always giving the benefit of doubt to the opposition - if their player goes down it has to be a foul because that's what Stoke are like. It was 20 seconds? I think it was a little mistake because he was a bit shit. I thought he should have added to the 9 tbh, the crowd were pissing about with it for a bit and Allen getting sent must have cost a bit of time, not that it mattered really, we were never scoring but it just added to the frustration.
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Post by trincostokie on Nov 25, 2021 3:14:12 GMT
Absolutely horrendous from the ref and liners tonight They should have had a red, 2 pens for us and then he even blows before the MINIMUM of 9 minutes added time When it gets to 98 on the clock in your corner, that means 9 minutes has passed mate. Do the maths. Ah right...you mean just like when it's your 49th birthday, and you're out celebrating the big Hawaii coz 50 years have passed?
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Post by hotpot on Nov 25, 2021 3:56:59 GMT
We got battered by Bristol.
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Post by hyaduck on Nov 25, 2021 6:39:16 GMT
It wasn't the officials fault we lost tonight. Gouranga. No but they was fucking garbage Who the players and the manager, I agree they were toss.
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Post by thevoid on Nov 25, 2021 6:39:17 GMT
We'd have missed any penalties anyway
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Post by wakeypotter on Nov 25, 2021 6:53:06 GMT
No but they was fucking garbage Who the players and the manager, I agree they were toss. Nowt to do with manager he must have wanted to kick fletchers fucking head in. Finishing was toss performance was good and I’m still pissed off
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Post by chamberlain on Nov 25, 2021 7:06:41 GMT
We got battered by Bristol. Don't be daft
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Post by broadwayroundabout on Nov 25, 2021 7:43:36 GMT
Please please please tell me this isn't happening, can we really not count. How many stoke fans does it take to change a light bulb? 89 Does that mean 90 then?🤷🏻♂️ Is there any chance of a revision session before the exam on Saturday 🙈
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Post by petershiltonsmini on Nov 25, 2021 8:28:11 GMT
The second time this season the ref hasn't played the MINIMUM (think it was Barnsley at home). Aren't these the basics of the fucking job? 90 91 92 93 94 95 96 97 98 There are 9 numbers there which means 9 minutes have passed 😃 You're including 90 which is part of normal time the match should have gone to 99 A 90 minute match ends at 90 mins not 89
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Post by nottsover60 on Nov 25, 2021 8:36:47 GMT
Your maths needs checking. When it gets to 98 on the clock you move into the 99th minute but 99 minutes aren't completed until the clock moves to 100. EDIT: My maths needs checking too : 9 added on minutes is complete when the clock moves onto 99 not 100 or even 98 - although that is the 99th minute, 99 minutes are not complete until the clock is showing 99. Does anyone really believe those 15-20 seconds would have made any difference? That said the officiating was dreadful. No, I don't think 15-20 minutes would have made a difference except perhaps to increase our goals against column. The thing that annoys me about it is that if a referee is so slap dash in the one measurable thing he has to do how can you have confidence in the rest of his performance? Although Allen had to go for that second booking you could see the referee thinking for a few seconds, 'This is Joe Allen, can I avoid sending him off?' until the Bristol players surrounded him when he thought 'No it' ll be easier to send him off'. All night, starting in the first few minutes when Tymon was clearly fouled in the box but managed to stay on his feet to put in a cross, the referee was very sloppy and took the easy option every time. He never made a difficult decision.
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Post by ohbottom on Nov 25, 2021 9:42:45 GMT
Please please please tell me this isn't happening, can we really not count. How many stoke fans does it take to change a light bulb? If I change a lightbulb, does that mean I've actually changed 2 lightbulbs? And if so, can I have a pay rise?
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 9:52:44 GMT
We got battered by Bristol. But we didn’t, did we. We just didn’t take our chances.
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Post by stokecitydom on Nov 25, 2021 9:53:51 GMT
The Ostigaard/Batth incidents from the same corner should surely be picked up by at least one of the officials.
Such poor officiating & in the commentary it said the red had not awarded a penalty or red card all season, like it’s something he’s proud of. He looked reluctant to send Allen off & was helped by Bristol City players to send him off.
Just comes across as weak/incompetent refereeing. The player on Ostigaard didn’t look at the ball once & climbed all over Ostigaard.
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Post by dastokie on Nov 25, 2021 9:59:12 GMT
Ref had a mare although giving Allen red card might just give us a chance to see how we play without him. The rot started last night after another one of his passes to the advertising awning.
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Post by wearestoke80 on Nov 25, 2021 10:04:10 GMT
Ref had a mare although giving Allen red card might just give us a chance to see how we play without him. The rot started last night after another one of his passes to the advertising awning. That was fucking pathetic
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Post by Staffsoatcake on Nov 25, 2021 10:47:48 GMT
I wonder if he is on Twatkinsons Xmas card list.
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2021 10:53:31 GMT
It wasn't the officials fault we lost tonight. Gouranga. No one has claimed it was. Just pointed out their errors
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Post by Caerwrangonpotter on Nov 25, 2021 17:35:12 GMT
Worst officiating....hopefully this thread doesn't reappear on Saturday around 5pm
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Post by leicspotter on Nov 25, 2021 19:59:06 GMT
Please please please tell me this isn't happening, can we really not count. How many stoke fans does it take to change a light bulb? Does the lightbulb really need changing or do you just have an agenda against certain lightbulbs?
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