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Post by JesusisaStokie on Jul 11, 2022 23:08:49 GMT
Always assumed that % of next sale deals are added as a alternative to putting cash up front or cash over x amount of time. I think legally the term used is transfer compensation. So Stoke would be entitled to x% of all transfer compensation received by Burnley in regard to Nathan Collins. If our sell on is 20% of their profit we will receive 20% of all money they receive for Collins over £12m (if that is the condition of our sell on clause!) Its all about conditions of sale which we'll never know. It doesn’t have to be a percentage though and there are plenty of examples where it hasn’t been. But we have no idea what the sell on is. Yeah it could be structured as if he sells for over £_m we get a flat fee of £_m. The majority of the time the deals are structured as % of total transfer compensation. You can find details of contracts all over the place from legal disputes.
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Post by hamsta2 on Jul 11, 2022 23:59:32 GMT
Think he’s off to Wolves. ‘99%’ done according to a Wolves mate of mine. No idea of fee. Nothing new I know but it does all add up to a sale.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 12, 2022 9:17:41 GMT
Percy says medical today and repeats claim of 20.5m fee
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Jul 12, 2022 9:25:10 GMT
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Post by potterpaul on Jul 12, 2022 9:25:10 GMT
Percy says medical today and repeats claim of 20.5m fee What are the odds the .5 is ours 😂
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Post by caine on Jul 12, 2022 9:35:50 GMT
So whats that around 3-4M for us?
Hoping so as that will pay for a striker if the rumour of 20 percent is true....
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Post by lordb on Jul 12, 2022 9:37:53 GMT
So whats that around 3-4M for us? Hoping so as that will pay for a striker if the rumour of 20 percent is true.... see above posts short answer is we don't know slightly longer answer is probably something between £1m & £3m (if we are very lucky) depending on how add ons work
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Post by prudhoesnose on Jul 12, 2022 9:40:38 GMT
Probably why MON hasn't signed a striker yet. Knowing we've got a little windfall coming means we might be able to shop outside of the bargain bin.
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Jul 12, 2022 9:45:11 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 9:45:11 GMT
So whats that around 3-4M for us? Hoping so as that will pay for a striker if the rumour of 20 percent is true.... see above posts short answer is we don't know slightly longer answer is probably something between £1m & £3m (if we are very lucky) depending on how add ons work Yep sounds about right. The Irish Independent are usually pretty clued up on club affairs, they used to have all the inside gossip on the national side until it was discovered that David O'Leary was their snitch from inside 😂 Oddly nothing on this one. Be an ideal time to land a couple of million extra in our budget.
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Jul 12, 2022 9:46:25 GMT
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Post by sheds1862 on Jul 12, 2022 9:46:25 GMT
That was Exeter mate with Watkins. But it wasn't to do with the fee from Brentford to Villa it was linked to him getting an England cap. I'm with the others .We'd get anything above 12 . If he goes again we'd get nothing. Ah that was it! So Exeter did receive an additional fee from a sell on that Brentford had with Aston Villa. Absolutely, but nothing to do with the transfer fee. Maybe we could of put a clause in if capped by Ireland or had he already been capped by then. I know Burnley fans are fuming saying that they are giving him away.
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Jul 12, 2022 9:47:51 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 12, 2022 9:47:51 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then.
Interesting!
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Post by northernstokie on Jul 12, 2022 9:52:35 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! Who said that?
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Post by josefr on Jul 12, 2022 9:56:10 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! 15% of the 20 million?
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 12, 2022 9:57:26 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! 15% of the whole fee? Where has this come from? I'll be very surprised if we managed to land such a deal with Burnley, but 15% of everything above £12M would be more probable I think? If so it will be close to £1.5M.
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jul 12, 2022 10:09:26 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! I said this yday. I thought it would be. £3m would be good!
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 10:10:08 GMT
Ah that was it! So Exeter did receive an additional fee from a sell on that Brentford had with Aston Villa. Absolutely, but nothing to do with the transfer fee. Maybe we could of put a clause in if capped by Ireland or had he already been capped by then. I know Burnley fans are fuming saying that they are giving him away. He was called up in a provisional squad but wasn't capped at Stoke and injury of course ruined that. I would think unlikely we had an add on there as was always going to win a full cap in the near future. Hopefully the report being a %age of the whole fee is true.
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Post by femark on Jul 12, 2022 10:10:36 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! 15% of the whole fee? Where has this come from? I'll be very surprised if we managed to land such a deal with Burnley, but 15% of everything above £12M would be more probable I think? If so it will be close to £1.5M. A percentage of the whole sell on fee has always been the standard clause. I'm not sure why people on this board have started saying differently? There may have been a few instances of a percentage of the difference but it's not standard.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 10:14:26 GMT
15% of the whole fee? Where has this come from? I'll be very surprised if we managed to land such a deal with Burnley, but 15% of everything above £12M would be more probable I think? If so it will be close to £1.5M. A percentage of the whole sell on fee has always been the standard clause. I'm not sure why people on this board have started saying differently? There may have been a few instances of a percentage of the difference but it's not standard. Was it Sterling where QPR only got the profit %age. Was certainly one big one in recent years
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 12, 2022 10:16:54 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! If that's true then fair fucking play Stoke
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Post by femark on Jul 12, 2022 10:27:08 GMT
A percentage of the whole sell on fee has always been the standard clause. I'm not sure why people on this board have started saying differently? There may have been a few instances of a percentage of the difference but it's not standard. Was it Sterling where QPR only got the profit %age. Was certainly one big one in recent years QPR got the full 20%: "On Sunday evening, Sky sources revealed Manchester City and Liverpool have agreed a fee believed to be around £49million – made up of £44m up front and a further £5m in add-ons - and if the full amount is paid then QPR would get £9.8m."
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 10:29:26 GMT
Was it Sterling where QPR only got the profit %age. Was certainly one big one in recent years QPR got the full 20%: "On Sunday evening, Sky sources revealed Manchester City and Liverpool have agreed a fee believed to be around £49million – made up of £44m up front and a further £5m in add-ons - and if the full amount is paid then QPR would get £9.8m." Must have been Sterling then but was a top player I remember and they lost out big time. Still is easy to be clued up after a player makes the big time I guess.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 12, 2022 10:32:47 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! I don't think anyone credible has reported it yet either way, but fingers crossed. I'd still lean towards profit though
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Post by Deleted on Jul 12, 2022 10:36:37 GMT
A percentage of the whole sell on fee has always been the standard clause. I'm not sure why people on this board have started saying differently? There may have been a few instances of a percentage of the difference but it's not standard. Was it Sterling where QPR only got the profit %age. Was certainly one big one in recent years Wasn't Maguire as Sheff U got payouts for both him and Walker of course. I remember a player going for huge money to Man City and his junior club getting a nice bundle .
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Post by LGH87 on Jul 12, 2022 10:37:36 GMT
Bayern dropping a little bomb with no source mentioned and then goes the quietest he's been in ten years.
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Post by iamstokie on Jul 12, 2022 10:47:23 GMT
It doesn’t work like that It kind of does. FIFA have rules like that. We can’t dictate it though it’s set in guidelines and up to an age. It’s complicated. Didn’t Crewe sell a young player once and made money every transfer he then had ?
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Post by lordb on Jul 12, 2022 11:07:08 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! just to be clear 15% of the whole fee? ? in which case well done Scholes or 15% of the profit? in which case Scholes out
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Post by FullerMagic on Jul 12, 2022 11:10:40 GMT
So they reckon it’s 15% of the fee then. Interesting! just to be clear 15% of the whole fee? ? in which case well done Scholes or 15% of the profit? in which case Scholes out www.express.co.uk/sport/football/1639056/Taylors-Transfer-news-Liverpool-Oxlade-Chamberlain-Tottenham-Everton-bid-Ozil-next-clubStoke due Collins sell-on clauseStoke City are set to profit from Wolves' potential deal to sign central defender Nathan Collins from Burnley.
Bruno Lage's side are in advanced talks with the Clarets over a £20.5million move for the 21-year-old Republic of Ireland international, who looks set to seal an immediate return to the Premier League following Burnley's relegation.
The Potters are understood to have included a 'substantial' sell-on clause when offloading their former player for an undisclosed fee in June 2021, believed to be worth around 15 percent of any future fee.
It means they are effectively in line to land around £3m from the deal, providing an agreement can be reached between the clubs.Seems only to be the Express saying that just in a general round-up article, so not that convincing as a source. Fingers crossed though.
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Post by bolders on Jul 12, 2022 11:15:07 GMT
Just gotta hope that the £3m in question doesn’t go on Maja
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Post by theonlooker on Jul 12, 2022 11:15:36 GMT
3M would be quite useful.
1.5M to pay Etebo off and 1.5M for two loanees.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Jul 12, 2022 11:34:36 GMT
Not that it is anything to go by but the latest Football Manager has it as 20% of the fee.
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Post by mickstupp on Jul 12, 2022 11:36:10 GMT
3M would be quite useful. 1.5M to pay Etebo off and 1.5M for two loanees. What a thoroughly depressing state of affairs
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