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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 18:07:58 GMT
Quite possibly the biggest pile of shit I’ve ever read on here. Congratulations, that’s quite some achievement 👏 He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. No people rate him, they just don’t go ridiculously over the top like you do. He’ll be doing well to have a career on a par with the likes of Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth.
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Post by pushon on Jun 28, 2022 18:10:02 GMT
Quite possibly the biggest pile of shit I’ve ever read on here. Congratulations, that’s quite some achievement 👏 He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. Sometimes, in fact often, your dogmatism is astonishing, you would have made quite some politician Bayern. You can take an advasorial position and right or wrong, defend it against overwhelming opposition. I admire your ????? whatever it's called.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:10:28 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 18:10:28 GMT
He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. No people rate him, they just don’t go ridiculously over the top like you do. He’ll be doing well to have a career on a par with the likes of Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth. I’m not going ridiculously over the top. And people don’t. You just have to read the comments. Why shouldn’t we have played a 17 year old when he was as good as Collins was then? He is a seriously good player.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:11:03 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 18:11:03 GMT
He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. Sometimes, in fact often, your dogmatism is astonishing, you would have made quite some politician Bayern. You can take an advasorial position and right or wrong, defend it against overwhelming opposition. I admire your ????? whatever it's called. Belief in what I’m saying.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:14:04 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 18:14:04 GMT
No people rate him, they just don’t go ridiculously over the top like you do. He’ll be doing well to have a career on a par with the likes of Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth. I’m not going ridiculously over the top. And people don’t. You just have to read the comments. Why shouldn’t we have played a 17 year old when he was as good as Collins was then? He is a seriously good player. Because he wasn’t quite as polished or as good as you claim he was. I remember watching him play for the first time in the first game of the season against QPR and he got absolutely roasted by Eze. He destroyed him actually.
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Post by cvillestokie on Jun 28, 2022 18:15:00 GMT
He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. No people rate him, they just don’t go ridiculously over the top like you do. He’ll be doing well to have a career on a par with the likes of Ryan Shawcross and Robert Huth. He’ll have to move to Man City or Liverpool soon if he wants to get as many medals as Huth. He could still well do that. He could have a very good career. But “an excellent chance” of being the best defender of his generation is quite an amusing way to view risk and probability. During the period of Maldini etc, we had Ferdinand, Campbell and Terry. They all won lots of trophies and were all, in their way, excellent players. They often aren’t viewed in the same category as the best of their generation.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 18:15:32 GMT
I’m not going ridiculously over the top. And people don’t. You just have to read the comments. Why shouldn’t we have played a 17 year old when he was as good as Collins was then? He is a seriously good player. Because he wasn’t quite as polished or as good as you claim he was. I remember watching him play for the first time in the first game of the season against QPR and he got absolutely roasted by Eze. He destroyed him actually. He was. He was one of the best centre backs in the world for his age. He still is. And we barely used him.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:17:27 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 18:17:27 GMT
He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. Sometimes, in fact often, your dogmatism is astonishing, you would have made quite some politician Bayern. You can take an advasorial position and right or wrong, defend it against overwhelming opposition. I admire your ????? whatever it's called. He just batters people into submission and his claims become more and more ludicrous. Every time he's challenged he steps it up a notch. The frightening thing is I think he actually believes it.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:18:06 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 18:18:06 GMT
Because he wasn’t quite as polished or as good as you claim he was. I remember watching him play for the first time in the first game of the season against QPR and he got absolutely roasted by Eze. He destroyed him actually. He was. He was one of the best centre backs in the world for his age. He still is. And we barely used him. He played plenty. How can you play players when they are injured? He was a virtual ever present last season (20/21) until he got injured at Norwich in the February.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 18:25:56 GMT
He was. He was one of the best centre backs in the world for his age. He still is. And we barely used him. He played plenty. How can you play players when they are injured? He was a virtual ever present last season (20/21) until he got injured at Norwich in the February. He didn't play enough and last season it was out of position which was a nonsense. We didn't allow ourselves to get best value. We've done the same with Bursik. And unlike Collins it was imperative to try and get rid of him because he isn't that good but his reputation proceeds him. Now we'll get rid of him for less than we should have done or be kept with an unhappy keeper who isn't much better than Jack bloody Bonham.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:32:25 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 18:32:25 GMT
He played plenty. How can you play players when they are injured? He was a virtual ever present last season (20/21) until he got injured at Norwich in the February. He didn't play enough and last season it was out of position which was a nonsense. We didn't allow ourselves to get best value. We've done the same with Bursik. And unlike Collins it was imperative to try and get rid of him because he isn't that good but his reputation proceeds him. Now we'll get rid of him for less than we should have done or be kept with an unhappy keeper who isn't much better than Jack bloody Bonham. He played plenty, and in the early days he was rash and made silly mistakes. Bursik? The calamity keeper who can’t save shots? He’ll end up in league 1. We don’t have a decent keeper at the club, I’m gobsmacked we haven’t signed one yet its priority number one for me.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:32:38 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 18:32:38 GMT
Quite possibly the biggest pile of shit I’ve ever read on here. Congratulations, that’s quite some achievement 👏 He’s seriously underrated on here. He will be better than Hudson who isn’t spoken about outside the Potteries. He’s next level good. I’m not sure why people can’t grasp this. I think they grasped some of your previous predictions to be fair.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 18:42:48 GMT
He didn't play enough and last season it was out of position which was a nonsense. We didn't allow ourselves to get best value. We've done the same with Bursik. And unlike Collins it was imperative to try and get rid of him because he isn't that good but his reputation proceeds him. Now we'll get rid of him for less than we should have done or be kept with an unhappy keeper who isn't much better than Jack bloody Bonham. He played plenty, and in the early days he was rash and made silly mistakes. Bursik? The calamity keeper who can’t save shots? He’ll end up in league 1. We don’t have a decent keeper at the club, I’m gobsmacked we haven’t signed one yet its priority number one for me. He might do yeah but we had a genuine chance to get a good few million for him and let someone else realise that. We'll still probably get a million for him but it should be more.
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Post by Deleted on Jun 28, 2022 18:44:16 GMT
He played plenty. How can you play players when they are injured? He was a virtual ever present last season (20/21) until he got injured at Norwich in the February. He didn't play enough and last season it was out of position which was a nonsense. We didn't allow ourselves to get best value. We've done the same with Bursik. And unlike Collins it was imperative to try and get rid of him because he isn't that good but his reputation proceeds him. Now we'll get rid of him for less than we should have done or be kept with an unhappy keeper who isn't much better than Jack bloody Bonham. So by playing Bursik more you expose him more and if he isn't very good (which I agree with) how on earth would that increase his value.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:52:04 GMT
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Post by scfcno1fan on Jun 28, 2022 18:52:04 GMT
A then 19 year old one at that. It's laughable. Why is it? He was brilliant even then. He should have been captain for 2 seasons before he left. He was more of a leader than the more experienced players and showed it time and time again. He was the only hope of getting out of this league and we fucked it. How did he show leadership time and time again? You must have seen something I missed!
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 18:52:09 GMT
He didn't play enough and last season it was out of position which was a nonsense. We didn't allow ourselves to get best value. We've done the same with Bursik. And unlike Collins it was imperative to try and get rid of him because he isn't that good but his reputation proceeds him. Now we'll get rid of him for less than we should have done or be kept with an unhappy keeper who isn't much better than Jack bloody Bonham. So by playing Bursik more you expose him more and if he isn't very good (which I agree with) how on earth would that increase his value. Because I don't think he was playing nearly as badly as people on here are making out.
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Jun 28, 2022 18:58:28 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 18:58:28 GMT
He played plenty, and in the early days he was rash and made silly mistakes. Bursik? The calamity keeper who can’t save shots? He’ll end up in league 1. We don’t have a decent keeper at the club, I’m gobsmacked we haven’t signed one yet its priority number one for me. He might do yeah but we had a genuine chance to get a good few million for him and let someone else realise that. We'll still probably get a million for him but it should be more. Who was prepared to spend that kind of money on Bursik? If that was true, he’d be long gone. No one has ever been after him because he’s not very good.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 19:00:28 GMT
He might do yeah but we had a genuine chance to get a good few million for him and let someone else realise that. We'll still probably get a million for him but it should be more. Who was prepared to spend that kind of money on Bursik? If that was true, he’d be long gone. No one has ever been after him because he’s not very good. If Bachmann goes to Man Yoo, they want Bursik.
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Jun 28, 2022 19:03:05 GMT
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Post by iamstokie on Jun 28, 2022 19:03:05 GMT
So by playing Bursik more you expose him more and if he isn't very good (which I agree with) how on earth would that increase his value. Because I don't think he was playing nearly as badly as people on here are making out. He was awful Bayern , just because you don’t think he was doesn’t make you right , just look how many don’t agree with you
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Jun 28, 2022 19:05:54 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 19:05:54 GMT
Who was prepared to spend that kind of money on Bursik? If that was true, he’d be long gone. No one has ever been after him because he’s not very good. If Bachmann goes to Man Yoo, they want Bursik. Ok but who was prepared to spend big on him?
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Jun 28, 2022 19:06:32 GMT
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Post by scfcwebby on Jun 28, 2022 19:06:32 GMT
I didn't know negotiating meant walking away with less than the value of the asset you're selling. Not very good "negotiators" are we... No. Should have told them to fuck off and taken the points deduction. And you know for sure that would have happened?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 19:08:04 GMT
Because I don't think he was playing nearly as badly as people on here are making out. He was awful Bayern , just because you don’t think he was doesn’t make you right , just look how many don’t agree with you He wasn't. And the second bit makes me think it even more.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 19:08:48 GMT
If Bachmann goes to Man Yoo, they want Bursik. Ok but who was prepared to spend big on him? That was hypothetical based on he's clearly viewed very highly in the game and we haven't played on that at all.
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Jun 28, 2022 19:14:28 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 19:14:28 GMT
Ok but who was prepared to spend big on him? That was hypothetical based on he's clearly viewed very highly in the game and we haven't played on that at all. Clearly viewed highly in the game by who? Being classed as the one of the best three under 21 England qualified keepers isn’t any kind of gauge is it?
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jun 28, 2022 19:17:56 GMT
Because he wasn’t quite as polished or as good as you claim he was. I remember watching him play for the first time in the first game of the season against QPR and he got absolutely roasted by Eze. He destroyed him actually. He was. He was one of the best centre backs in the world for his age. He still is. And we barely used him. Is this the same Collins that got made to look like an amateur by Tom fucking Pope? That Collins? One of the best centre backs in the world 😂😂
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Jun 28, 2022 19:18:26 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 28, 2022 19:18:26 GMT
That was hypothetical based on he's clearly viewed very highly in the game and we haven't played on that at all. Clearly viewed highly in the game by who? Being classed as the one of the best three under 21 England qualified keepers isn’t any kind of gauge is it? Yeah I think it is?
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Jun 28, 2022 19:18:57 GMT
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Jun 28, 2022 19:18:57 GMT
He was. He was one of the best centre backs in the world for his age. He still is. And we barely used him. Is this the same Collins that got made to look like an amateur by Tom fucking Pope? That Collins? One of the best centre backs in the world 😂😂 Hi Tom
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Jun 28, 2022 19:20:33 GMT
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Post by mickstupp on Jun 28, 2022 19:20:33 GMT
Clearly viewed highly in the game by who? Being classed as the one of the best three under 21 England qualified keepers isn’t any kind of gauge is it? Yeah I think it is? That depends entirely on the calibre of keepers he’s competing against for a place in the squad.
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Jun 28, 2022 19:22:22 GMT
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Post by willieeetmiout on Jun 28, 2022 19:22:22 GMT
Is this the same Collins that got made to look like an amateur by Tom fucking Pope? That Collins? One of the best centre backs in the world 😂😂 Hi Tom
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jun 28, 2022 19:22:47 GMT
That was hypothetical based on he's clearly viewed very highly in the game and we haven't played on that at all. Clearly viewed highly in the game by who? Being classed as the one of the best three under 21 England qualified keepers isn’t any kind of gauge is it? I mean it clearly is.
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