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Post by Gob Bluth on Aug 18, 2022 17:05:38 GMT
against this standard of bowling English batsmen would be 3 or 4 wickets down by now. Crawley got out just reading this reply.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 19, 2022 0:41:33 GMT
I thought we bowled okay today but we lost control in the last hour and that could prove to be critical. We have a real problem when it comes to bowling at the lower order, mainly because we stop trying to bowl them out and just try to knock them out.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Aug 19, 2022 10:32:24 GMT
This plan of banging it in halfway down to the tailenders working a treat again
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 19, 2022 10:37:01 GMT
What must Jimmy be thinking? I just don't get this.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 19, 2022 10:37:21 GMT
This is making me so cross. We have a brand new ball against a tailender with a test average of 6 and we have one slip and banging in every ball short. I don't mind the occasional bouncer as a surprise element but when every ball is short the batsman can set himself for it. Potts isn't fast enough to bowl this tactic in any case.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 10:38:37 GMT
This is making me so cross. We have a brand new ball against a tailender with a test average of 6 and we have one slip and banging in every ball short. I don't mind the occasional bouncer as a surprise element but when every ball is short the batsman can set himself for it. Potts isn't fast enough to bowl this tactic in any case. Bazbowling.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 11:02:08 GMT
Time to get behind the sofa… England are about to bat again.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Aug 19, 2022 11:14:12 GMT
How many runs will Crawley get in this innings? Odd thing to wish for I know but hopefully not enough to secure his position in the side.
It's like watching Stoke at the moment, cheering when they get a last minute equaliser, then realising that's O'Neil's job safe for another month!
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 19, 2022 11:44:48 GMT
That Crawley dismissal was shocking, his heads gone.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2022 11:46:49 GMT
wow opening partnership reached 20...progress!
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2022 11:47:49 GMT
That Crawley dismissal was shocking, his heads gone. what was he thinking there, first over of spin!!! Butcher's assessment is ruthless
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 19, 2022 12:02:21 GMT
Be lucky see a 4th day.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 19, 2022 12:15:50 GMT
It has got to the stage now where it is more cruel to keep Crawley in the team than it is to drop him.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 19, 2022 13:46:59 GMT
An innings defeat on the cards. They're better than us in every single department.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 13:48:07 GMT
This is now most likely to be over today by tea.
85-5
The Red Ball Revolution has become revolting.
Edit… just fixed that
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Post by GeneralFaye on Aug 19, 2022 13:51:03 GMT
Foakes dismissal worst of the lot.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 19, 2022 13:54:31 GMT
Foakes dismissal worst of the lot. Surprising, I have always liked Foakes, but maybe they are just instructing him to go out there and give it a good whack?
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Post by stokeuk474 on Aug 19, 2022 14:55:56 GMT
"Bazball"
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 15:07:56 GMT
In terms of overs, that test didn’t quite make two days.
England didn’t even manage to bat a full day in two innings.
Let’s pay some credit to South Africa though; that pace line up is as good as anything in world cricket just now backed up by a tidy spinner.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Aug 19, 2022 15:16:34 GMT
Just listened to Stokes' interview on TMS. I'm finding him particularly dislikeable at the moment. It's as if anyone questions what the team are doing(which is their job) they get met with a spiky, awkward response.
Aggers mentioned about the short pitched bowling this morning and how many runs their tail got, whereas SA bowled conventionally outside off stump and pitched it up and knocked us over.
Stokes just said well this is how we operate, we will do it our way. Well on this occasion, your way was wrong Ben and the sooner you can take criticism on board and acknowledge it the better. I can see how he ended up getting in trouble now outside that nightclub, he's a gobshite.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 19, 2022 16:02:17 GMT
Just listened to Stokes' interview on TMS. I'm finding him particularly dislikeable at the moment. It's as if anyone questions what the team are doing(which is their job) they get met with a spiky, awkward response. Aggers mentioned about the short pitched bowling this morning and how many runs their tail got, whereas SA bowled conventionally outside off stump and pitched it up and knocked us over. Stokes just said well this is how we operate, we will do it our way. Well on this occasion, your way was wrong Ben and the sooner you can take criticism on board and acknowledge it the better. I can see how he ended up getting in trouble now outside that nightclub, he's a gobshite. Stokes since becoming captain has shown considerably more brawn than brain. In the region of 95% brawn. I suspected he would take a hammering as part and parcel of the way he plays... win big, lose big. never a dull moment. Never die wondering. But that is just a brain dead approach in a nuanced game like test cricket. You have to play the situation, which first means recognising there are situations that require different ways of playing. We got out of jail numerous times in the early summer. Constantly putting everything on long shots is never ever going to lead to long term success. I suspect, this captaincy could end up being a short term arrangement because Stokes lacks the nous for the job.
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Post by stokeuk474 on Aug 19, 2022 18:35:31 GMT
Just listened to Stokes' interview on TMS. I'm finding him particularly dislikeable at the moment. It's as if anyone questions what the team are doing(which is their job) they get met with a spiky, awkward response. Aggers mentioned about the short pitched bowling this morning and how many runs their tail got, whereas SA bowled conventionally outside off stump and pitched it up and knocked us over. Stokes just said well this is how we operate, we will do it our way. Well on this occasion, your way was wrong Ben and the sooner you can take criticism on board and acknowledge it the better. I can see how he ended up getting in trouble now outside that nightclub, he's a gobshite. Stokes since becoming captain has shown considerably more brawn than brain. In the region of 95% brawn. I suspected he would take a hammering as part and parcel of the way he plays... win big, lose big. never a dull moment. Never die wondering. But that is just a brain dead approach in a nuanced game like test cricket. You have to play the situation, which first means recognising there are situations that require different ways of playing. We got out of jail numerous times in the early summer. Constantly putting everything on long shots is never ever going to lead to long term success. I suspect, this captaincy could end up being a short term arrangement because Stokes lacks the nous for the job. Couldn't agree more. You listen to people like Cook and Vaughan in the media and you can see why they captained, they are deep thinkers about the game. We know that Stokes has already had a bad time of it mentally in the past, and if results don't go for him, it'll be interesting to see how he copes with it all.
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Post by Olgrligm on Aug 19, 2022 21:16:32 GMT
I've seen a few people suggest that the big difference between this test and the last four has been that the Dukes ball has been fixed so that it doesn't fall out of shape as easily.
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Post by professorplump on Aug 19, 2022 22:01:55 GMT
I've seen a few people suggest that the big difference between this test and the last four has been that the Dukes ball has been fixed so that it doesn't fall out of shape as easily. I don't think England batted long enough for it to go out of shape!
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Post by professorplump on Aug 19, 2022 22:10:33 GMT
Obviously a very disappointing result. I think England were poorly prepared for this test with not much red ball cricket in the last few weeks. The way the season is structured makes it awkward to bring anyone else in to the team as difficult to know who is is form, but I think Crawley has to go and I think Foakes is under pressure as well. One option could be to give Bairstow the wicketkeeping gloves and bring in Harry Brook.
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Post by partickpotter on Aug 21, 2022 19:26:56 GMT
Some effort from Lanacashire, sorry, the Manchester Contemptibles scoring 208 against the Northern Slobs.
Whoever loses can’t make the playoffs.
So, pressure on the Yorkies when they come out to bat.
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Post by 4372 on Aug 21, 2022 22:09:47 GMT
Congratulations to Nantwich CC on their victory in the semi-final of the National Knockout. Off to Lords next month, a massive achievement, good luck on the big day.
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Post by dave1 on Aug 22, 2022 7:27:38 GMT
Congratulations to Nantwich CC on their victory in the semi-final of the National Knockout. Off to Lords next month, a massive achievement, good luck on the big day. Always read the sentinel cricket coverage, not seen this yes so thanks for posting. Do you follow Nantwich??? They have a good side by all accounts!!! Didn't they play at Lords not so long back also???
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Post by 4372 on Aug 22, 2022 8:28:19 GMT
Cheers. No, Not in my locality. I was in Nantwich a month ago, and watched half a game while waiting for my wife. You could see then that it was a good team, and I found out about their progress in the NK. Unfortunately i couldn't get there yesterday, and nor will I be able to get to Lords, but I Will try to go back up next year. Brought back memories of some great North Staffs /South Cheshire cricket.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 22, 2022 16:34:10 GMT
Just listened to Stokes' interview on TMS. I'm finding him particularly dislikeable at the moment. It's as if anyone questions what the team are doing(which is their job) they get met with a spiky, awkward response. Aggers mentioned about the short pitched bowling this morning and how many runs their tail got, whereas SA bowled conventionally outside off stump and pitched it up and knocked us over. Stokes just said well this is how we operate, we will do it our way. Well on this occasion, your way was wrong Ben and the sooner you can take criticism on board and acknowledge it the better. I can see how he ended up getting in trouble now outside that nightclub, he's a gobshite. Stokes since becoming captain has shown considerably more brawn than brain. In the region of 95% brawn. I suspected he would take a hammering as part and parcel of the way he plays... win big, lose big. never a dull moment. Never die wondering. But that is just a brain dead approach in a nuanced game like test cricket. You have to play the situation, which first means recognising there are situations that require different ways of playing. We got out of jail numerous times in the early summer. Constantly putting everything on long shots is never ever going to lead to long term success. I suspect, this captaincy could end up being a short term arrangement because Stokes lacks the nous for the job. Don't you also think it is just laziness on the part of these senior players and coaches. They have one way of playing and that's it. Well that saves quite a considerable amount of work doesn't it. Have a slog and if it doesn't work out go home and put your feet up until next time around. There doesn't seem to be much thinking going on behind this approach. I'll be amazed if he finishes up with a Test Batting average of over 35 at this rate which means he wouldn't get in any other major international test team Top 6.
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