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Post by oggyoggy on Jul 5, 2022 11:52:09 GMT
I wonder what we could have chased? 500, 600 maybe!? Extraordinary
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2022 12:12:37 GMT
I feel embarrassed watching this. so applying T20 batting tactics to Test Cricket. How many times in a Test Series is it going to work do you reckon? Enough to win a Test Series? Is that the thinking? 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2022 12:13:01 GMT
do you think he realises that though? I think he does. But what is worrying is he thinks this is the price you pay for playing his brand of cricket. Which is Hit and Hope. Which he thinks is why he won the first two tests. He is mistaken! 😂😂😂
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Post by Deleted on Jul 5, 2022 12:13:31 GMT
The worry is Stokes sees what happening as justification for his approach particularly for how he has decided to bat. It isn’t. This pair has got us out of jail. Good to play aggressively and being true to your nature but use your fucking brain. Give yourself a chance to get in before you start trying to leather the ball. 😂😂😂😂
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 5, 2022 12:17:21 GMT
Could have chased anything today.
Root and Bairstow would still be batting this time next week..
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2022 12:19:48 GMT
The worry is Stokes sees what happening as justification for his approach particularly for how he has decided to bat. It isn’t. This pair has got us out of jail. Good to play aggressively and being true to your nature but use your fucking brain. Give yourself a chance to get in before you start trying to leather the ball. 😂😂😂😂 You think I’m wrong? You should think again. Look how both Bairstow and Roots approach their batting. Nothing manic about it, which is the only word to describe how Stokes has chosen to approach his batting. They play according to their strengths, what the situation of the game is and what the opposition are up to. Listen to Bairstow’s post match interview if you don’t accept that. Stokes has decided on a hit and hope approach to his batting which hasn’t worked for him. He has been very fortunate that others have picked up the slack he has caused. He is too good a batsman to play like that. He’s actually batting like Stuart Broad just now.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 5, 2022 12:21:11 GMT
I feel embarrassed watching this. so applying T20 batting tactics to Test Cricket. How many times in a Test Series is it going to work do you reckon? Enough to win a Test Series? Is that the thinking? 😂😂😂 Looks like you are having fun. I would just point out that Root and Bairstow certainly didn't approach this innings in T20 mode and that's probably why they were so successful. It was certainly aggressive batting but wasn't reckless, as England and other batsman have been guilty of in recent times.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2022 12:30:44 GMT
Looks like you are having fun. I would just point out that Root and Bairstow certainly didn't approach this innings in T20 mode and that's probably why there were so successful. It was certainly aggressive batting but wasn't reckless, as England and other batsman have been guilty of in recent times. I’m feeling a little euphoric at the moment, but even so, I think that is the finest partnership I have ever seen.
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Post by spitthedog on Jul 5, 2022 13:04:50 GMT
Looks like you are having fun. I would just point out that Root and Bairstow certainly didn't approach this innings in T20 mode and that's probably why there were so successful. It was certainly aggressive batting but wasn't reckless, as England and other batsman have been guilty of in recent times. I’m feeling a little euphoric at the moment, but even so, I think that is the finest partnership I have ever seen. It could well be for me too. With that tail and Stokes' current frame of mind I was still nervous with 50 runs to win. I think I will need to sit and watch this again in a much calmer frame of mind. The level of controlled aggression and composure throughout was so very impressive. This is a very good Indian side who had dominated this game until the morning of the 4th day. I think Lees and Crawley deserve a lot of credit too, that foundation was so important. I hope they can follow up on this.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 5, 2022 13:24:22 GMT
Well. This last 6 weeks have been the most amazing, non-Ashes, Tests of my lifetime. 4 Tests that could have gone either way all ending in a tremendous 4th innings run chase. Long may this new brand of Test cricket continue! The only downside is that I can no longer nip to the kitchen or the bathroom and coming back to find nothing has happened. I think it has reinforced just how much top class sport is played in the mind. As an old cricket fan, I still look at 250-300 in the 4th innings and think that it looks a tough chase and that my money would still be on the bowling team, whereas all the England players interviewed seem to expect to chase it down (and would be very disappointed not to do so). It is a shame we now have a 6 week wait until the next Test match. The T20s & ODIs are likely to seem rather mundane in the meantime. As an old fogey I am still finding it a bit of challenge watching Joe Root reverse ramping 6s in Test matches. It reminds me of an incident in a school match after England's tour to Australia in 1974/5, where Alan Knott had been been one of the few successful batsmen partly by upercutting Lillee & Thompson over the slips. Our teacher and umpire was Jim Flannery (Gary Sobers' captain at Norton). I hooked the first bouncer I faced for 4 and then uppercut the 2nd for 4 to 3rd man. (The hook was a bit top edgy but the uppercut came off the middle of the bat exactly where I aimed). The next time I was at the non-strikers end, he looked at me, shook his head and said "nice hook, but don't play that other shot again". I wonder what he would have thought if he had been around for this last 6 weeks.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2022 14:40:46 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Jul 5, 2022 15:07:17 GMT
When womens golf, cricket or rugby and football for that matter brings In the same revenue that the mens games do you can have parity. Athletics and tennis is different as they are held at the same time in same stadia
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Post by 828492 on Jul 5, 2022 16:29:13 GMT
Root 142 not out. Bairstow 114 not out. I told you, typical Yorkshites. Playing for their average again. Selfish dratsabs.
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Post by lordb on Jul 5, 2022 18:06:19 GMT
It's a Nelson for this thread
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 5, 2022 18:26:32 GMT
Putting to one side the media jizzfest over bazball (which is cringe inducing), the past few weeks have been absolutely sensational.
I’m now looking at our red ball game with the same feeling of excitement I’ve got for our white ball team.
All it took was a change of attitude.
Which is exactly what happened when Morgan took over the white ball side. It seems we had the players, they either weren’t being picked or not performing as they could. That’s not to say, the transformation in our test team will be as complete as it was for the limited overs sides, there are still too many problems still to be resolved particularly our opening batsmen and how we bowl at the tail and when the ball goes soft.
But, at least we know we won’t now go gentle into that good night.
And, from this early summer’s experience we can draw on the most superb batting of Root and Bairstow to show how to play aggressive, controlled cricket.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 5, 2022 18:55:08 GMT
When womens golf, cricket or rugby and football for that matter brings In the same revenue that the mens games do you can have parity. Athletics and tennis is different as they are held at the same time in same stadia So if they play at the same cricket grounds they deserve parity then?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Jul 5, 2022 19:09:57 GMT
There’s nothing better than wiping the smile off Koli’s face.
Brilliant from Bairstow and Root.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 6, 2022 5:43:16 GMT
Looks like you are having fun. I would just point out that Root and Bairstow certainly didn't approach this innings in T20 mode and that's probably why there were so successful. It was certainly aggressive batting but wasn't reckless, as England and other batsman have been guilty of in recent times. He’s not a regular contributor to the cricket thread. In fact his only contributions were the three posts made following the win yesterday where he seemed, as you say, to be enjoying himself. Fair to say he didn’t understand the criticism of Stokes being made. It’s possible he doesn’t understand the cricket we have witnessed. As you say, yesterday’s batting from Root and Bairstow was anything but reckless. It was calculated, clinical and brutal when it needed to be. Above all, they played their game. Stokes needs to follow their lead with the bat.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 7, 2022 12:03:12 GMT
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 7, 2022 16:21:33 GMT
The Aussies are rattled already apparently with Steve Smith mocking 'Bazball' in the nets 😂
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2022 16:42:10 GMT
The Aussies are rattled already apparently with Steve Smith mocking 'Bazball' in the nets 😂 Just watched it on Sky Sports News, though he might start crying like when he was caught ball tampering. The cheating ginger twat!
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 7, 2022 18:09:29 GMT
1st ODI v India underway.
India batting and battering us.
141-4 of 13 overs.
We’ll likely be chasing a core well north of 200.
Which I’m not unhappy about. It will be an exciting evening if we get a run chase going.
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 7, 2022 18:09:46 GMT
India look on course for a biggie here
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2022 18:12:38 GMT
I never watch the pyjama stuff until we’re batting so will be turning on shortly. Should be a big chase!
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 7, 2022 18:14:59 GMT
Oooh parky. After being bashed round you needed buttler fingers to grab that..
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Post by fullmetaljacket on Jul 7, 2022 18:46:18 GMT
199 to win.
Felt like it could have been chasing more at one point.
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Post by partickpotter on Jul 7, 2022 18:46:44 GMT
I’m a bit surprised Phil Salt wasn’t picked.
Seems to me we’ve gone with one bowler too many.
Still we should have enough but Jordan at 8 is a spot too high for me and 9, 10, Jack is a bona tide tail.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2022 18:51:29 GMT
I’m a bit surprised Phil Salt wasn’t picked. Seems to me we’ve gone with one bowler too many. Still we should have enough but Jordan at 8 is a spot too high for me and 9, 10, Jack is a bona tide tail. Agree, think he should open after an impressive showing the other week but I guess Buttler bats where he wants and was in great form in the IPL. Though it would have been Roy Salt Malan Livingstone Buttler Brook Moeen Willey Jordan Rashid Topley
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jul 7, 2022 19:03:15 GMT
Some serious swing there and Buttler goes for a golden 🦆 Fantastic bowling
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Post by bigvern on Jul 7, 2022 19:08:17 GMT
Its bonkers how anyone can compete with India really. Is it our 2nd or 3rd sport? Its not even New Zealand's first sport. I do love the Indian fans though. So passionate.
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