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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 24, 2021 9:20:43 GMT
You can't take part in a goal celebration mental and hold a full pint at the same time. People will get wet. I could fall down a flight of stairs and break both my arms and never spill a drop from a full pint. I just thought it was an inbuilt ‘man’ thing. Just like throwing beer around is a pre pubescent teenager thing.
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Post by yyy on Sept 24, 2021 9:23:04 GMT
Not so bad if its limited to certain areas that you can choose to sit in at own risk
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Post by walrus on Sept 24, 2021 9:32:19 GMT
I feel like the loutish football fan behaviour we saw around the Euros is something of a self fulfilling prophecy.
Some fans behave like dicks because they believe that’s the done thing at football given the constant media narrative vilifying football fans. 90% of them are impressionable young blokes, not bad people.
We need to break that cycle. Treating fans with trust and respect rather than like criminals or naughty children may be exactly what we need.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 24, 2021 10:10:25 GMT
I feel like the loutish football fan behaviour we saw around the Euros is something of a self fulfilling prophecy. Some fans behave like dicks because they believe that’s the done thing at football given the constant media narrative vilifying football fans. 90% of them are impressionable young blokes, not bad people. We need to break that cycle. Treating fans with trust and respect rather than like criminals or naughty children may be exactly what we need. It would be great but so many people see attending a game as an excuse to disconnect from their brain cells and do whatever they want without any regard for others. I might add it’s not just football - international cricket is facing a similar issue (but without the menacing atmosphere and extremes that football can sometimes engender). We don’t really live in a society that has a very mature approach to alcohol and football tends to magnify the issue. Apart from that as I’ve said earlier on a practical level it’s annoying beyond belief to anyone just trying to watch the match.
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Post by scfc75 on Sept 24, 2021 10:25:32 GMT
You can't take part in a goal celebration mental and hold a full pint at the same time. People will get wet. I could fall down a flight of stairs and break both my arms and never spill a drop from a full pint. I just thought it was an inbuilt ‘man’ thing. Just like throwing beer around is a pre pubescent teenager thing. It’s known as the MAG (Male Alcohol Gyroscope). One of nature’s mysteries.
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Post by 3putts on Sept 24, 2021 10:26:55 GMT
i tend to do my drinking before and after the games.i am against this proposal simply because the brain dead element think its fun to throw their beer when we score. i stopped watching england play in a pub because i was fed up of being sprayed with beer by some moron.
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 24, 2021 10:33:46 GMT
It could be made legal. An absolutely terrible idea imo that will just lead to dickheads throwing it everywhere and people getting drenched. Not everyone is a dickhead though , I hate that good people get punished along with a very small minority , like so many other things
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 24, 2021 10:34:19 GMT
So she’ll we both stop everything in life if that’s the case?…..as that scenario covers all aspects of life in general No need to stop it because it hasn’t started. Nobody drinks in the stands now and it’s fine. Yes they do - there was one on Saturday and I got covered in beer on account of it. Admittedly I could just as easily have been covered in Cola if someone was chucking it about - but it's incontestible that alcohol will turn your bang average wanker into a complete bellend in a way that soft drinks do not.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 24, 2021 10:42:00 GMT
I could fall down a flight of stairs and break both my arms and never spill a drop from a full pint. I just thought it was an inbuilt ‘man’ thing. Just like throwing beer around is a pre pubescent teenager thing. It’s known as the MAG (Male Alcohol Gyroscope). One of nature’s mysteries. And it's not affected by alcohol either. I could be as pissed as a fart (which would explain the fall in the first place) but still not spill a drop.
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Post by christhepotter on Sept 24, 2021 10:55:20 GMT
No need to stop it because it hasn’t started. Nobody drinks in the stands now and it’s fine. Yes they do - there was one on Saturday and I got covered in beer on account of it. Admittedly I could just as easily have been covered in Cola if someone was chucking it about - but it's incontestible that alcohol will turn your bang average wanker into a complete bellend in a way that soft drinks do not. So you punish all the sensible one as well then 🤦♂️🙄
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Post by AlbertTatlock on Sept 24, 2021 10:59:13 GMT
Beer + football whether winning or losing and the emotions that go along with both just don't mix add into that impressionable "lads" knuckle draggers and dick heads and it's going to make the match-day experience quite a volatile one for a lot of people. It is IMO a huge step backwards. Go and have a pint or 2 before kick off and after the full time whistle in a licensed establishment or on a park bench, you can even have a beer in the foyer at half time but in the middle of the match - no thanks. Gouranga.
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Post by Royal Donut on Sept 24, 2021 11:02:30 GMT
The only slight saving grace is they would all be dispersed out into individual seats so wouldn’t be anywhere near as hard (and stupid) as they are when there’s 50 of them congregated in a concourse thinking it’s ok to give everyone else a beer shower whether they wanted one of not. Give it a go. If it doesn’t work stop it. It’s not difficult. Anyway a half pint of flat piss water wouldn’t be as hard as a stale meat pie hitting you in the eye would it Bayern? Plus everyone around will know the seat number and be able to report it, they have cameras all over the stadia so wouldn't be hard to find it, make sure they know that it's a banning offence and they'll soon think twice. I got 20/30 people standing on the stairs next to me, they tried many times trying make them get them to the seats, but 2/3 stewards v 20/30 it's not going to work, everyone in the seats also stand, so makes it a difficult situation.
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Sept 24, 2021 11:02:37 GMT
I suppose one way round it is to insist everyone under 25 decants the 'beer' into a Tommee Tippee cup. Bibs could also be provided and a nanny to stop them being naughty and throwing their drink around.
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Post by LL Cool Dave on Sept 24, 2021 11:05:18 GMT
No need to stop it because it hasn’t started. Nobody drinks in the stands now and it’s fine. They do at every other sport It’s discriminatory Most other sports haven't got a history of hooliganism amongst its supporters. Terrible idea.
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Post by Seymour Beaver on Sept 24, 2021 11:08:17 GMT
Yes they do - there was one on Saturday and I got covered in beer on account of it. Admittedly I could just as easily have been covered in Cola if someone was chucking it about - but it's incontestible that alcohol will turn your bang average wanker into a complete bellend in a way that soft drinks do not. So you punish all the sensible one as well then 🤦♂️🙄 Well - on the basis that 100% of those actually drinking were acting as dickheads then there weren't any sensible ones😜 Plus - in all seriousness- I don't regard not being able to sup overpriced warm piss in my seat at a football match as any form of 'punishment'.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 24, 2021 11:21:38 GMT
It is allowed in Rugby League stadia and I can testify it’s a complete pain in the proverbial. People are constantly up and down either to buy beer or go for a slash - I like a pint but it really should be possible to exist for 90 mins without one and actually just enjoy the game. Wuzza - the two pint glass might get round this (as seen at Warrington's ground). The idea being that two pints should get you through at least one half of rugby - or may be the whole game, so that you don't have to make another trip. Personally, I'm amazed this is being considered so soon after the scenes from the Euros.
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Post by wuzza on Sept 24, 2021 11:33:45 GMT
It is allowed in Rugby League stadia and I can testify it’s a complete pain in the proverbial. People are constantly up and down either to buy beer or go for a slash - I like a pint but it really should be possible to exist for 90 mins without one and actually just enjoy the game. Wuzza - the two pint glass might get round this (as seen at Warrington's ground). The idea being that two pints should get you through at least one half of rugby - or may be the whole game, so that you don't have to make another trip. Personally, I'm amazed this is being considered so soon after the scenes from the Euros. To be honest mate it’s my experience as a season ticket holder in the East Stand that has driven my prejudice. I’ve not noticed any difference - the movement is endless and that’s even after they introduced ‘waitress’ service to individual seats from some of the food outlets. I’m as mild mannered as it’s possible to be but sometimes I could cheerfully throttle certain fans 🙂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 24, 2021 11:40:00 GMT
It could be made legal. An absolutely terrible idea imo that will just lead to dickheads throwing it everywhere and people getting drenched. Not everyone is a dickhead though , I hate that good people get punished along with a very small minority , like so many other things They’re not but there’s plenty as we’ve seen enough times at the Euros, on concourses up and down the land and in pubs. It’s almost become a thing to see who can do the biggest beer shower when England. It’s fucking weird. If I had faith that people sit there and act normal then I’d be good with it but I just don’t think it’d happen.
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Post by zerps on Sept 24, 2021 12:02:41 GMT
It could be made legal. An absolutely terrible idea imo that will just lead to dickheads throwing it everywhere and people getting drenched. Have you ever been to a pub?
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2021 12:24:57 GMT
Not everyone is a dickhead though , I hate that good people get punished along with a very small minority , like so many other things They’re not but there’s plenty as we’ve seen enough times at the Euros, on concourses up and down the land and in pubs. It’s almost become a thing to see who can do the biggest beer shower when England. It’s fucking weird. If I had faith that people sit there and act normal then I’d be good with it but I just don’t think it’d happen. So everybody should suffer for what is in essence a handful? Should we stop or ban everything in life because of a handful then?
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Post by callas12 on Sept 24, 2021 12:25:43 GMT
Definitely creating split opinions this suggestion isn't it. Can certainly see both sides of the argument & whilst I'd probably prefer for it not to happen I totally get that'll be embraced by some & have no great issues with it myself, would be a nice sea change. The mere fact folk haven't got to down their pints in the concourse may actually mean people can leisurely walk back to their seats & finish their drink off there rather than knocking them back in quick succession to get back in time for the footy. Although even if pints aren't lobbed around after a goal, people will definitely be accidentally kicking them over under people's seats. Has anyone ever seen a coke go over? They run down the steps or onto the next seat below and god help ya if your sat with a Stoke shirt or something lightly coloured on & it spills on to it 🙈 !
Drinking beer in the stands and with standing being suggested recently aswell, seems as if everything's going full circle again.
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Post by Not_Nick_H on Sept 24, 2021 12:37:53 GMT
Wuzza - the two pint glass might get round this (as seen at Warrington's ground). The idea being that two pints should get you through at least one half of rugby - or may be the whole game, so that you don't have to make another trip. Personally, I'm amazed this is being considered so soon after the scenes from the Euros. To be honest mate it’s my experience as a season ticket holder in the East Stand that has driven my prejudice. I’ve not noticed any difference - the movement is endless and that’s even after they introduced ‘waitress’ service to individual seats from some of the food outlets. I’m as mild mannered as it’s possible to be but sometimes I could cheerfully throttle certain fans 🙂 I know what you mean. My seats at Stoke are on the end of a row. Constantly up and down 5 minutes before kick off and 5 after, + half time.
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Post by robwahlmann on Sept 24, 2021 12:52:29 GMT
They’re not but there’s plenty as we’ve seen enough times at the Euros, on concourses up and down the land and in pubs. It’s almost become a thing to see who can do the biggest beer shower when England. It’s fucking weird. If I had faith that people sit there and act normal then I’d be good with it but I just don’t think it’d happen. So everybody should suffer for what is in essence a handful? Should we stop or ban everything in life because of a handful then? I think most supporters could end up throwing beer all over the place. With a beer in the hand and a Stoke goal most of us would jump up from our seats and in the prosess drench the people around us in beer. When going to a match I don't want to be drenched in beer, I just want to see the team I support play football!
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Post by unknown182 on Sept 24, 2021 13:01:16 GMT
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Post by werrington on Sept 24, 2021 13:02:44 GMT
So everybody should suffer for what is in essence a handful? Should we stop or ban everything in life because of a handful then? I think most supporters could end up throwing beer all over the place. With a beer in the hand and a Stoke goal most of us would jump up from our seats and in the prosess drench the people around us in beer. When going to a match I don't want to be drenched in beer, I just want to see the team I support play football! Jesus So a hot cup of tea/bovril is not the same then
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Post by tpholloway1 on Sept 24, 2021 13:05:09 GMT
They do at every other sport It’s discriminatory Most other sports haven't got a history of hooliganism amongst its supporters. Terrible idea. Some of the worse drunken behaviour I've seen has been at Horse Racing (rarely reported - I wonder why), Cricket and Boxing yet there's no talk of banning alcohol there. It's just another negative stereotype aimed at football fans.
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Post by marrer on Sept 24, 2021 13:10:54 GMT
It works in other countries. Sadly don't see it working here. The few matches I've been abroad they've served alcohol free. What you didn’t have to pay?
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 24, 2021 13:16:31 GMT
Each to their own but why anyone needs to have a beer why they watch football is beyond me whilst at the game🤔In a pub watching/or at home fair enough. It takes all sorts but not for me whilst in my seat
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 13:23:21 GMT
Fucking dreadful idea.
Especially at away matches.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 24, 2021 13:25:23 GMT
Yes they do - there was one on Saturday and I got covered in beer on account of it. Admittedly I could just as easily have been covered in Cola if someone was chucking it about - but it's incontestible that alcohol will turn your bang average wanker into a complete bellend in a way that soft drinks do not. So you punish all the sensible one as well then 🤦♂️🙄 Not exactly a punishment is it, going 45 minutes without a beer.
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