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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 19:55:40 GMT
Been disappointed with him in the box in the league. He’s got into some good positions but needed too much time on the ball to get a shot away. Tonight’s goal was a really good finish but allowed by some comical defending that gave him so much time. But if he can change that then he will be useful in the league for goals. But it’s definitely his biggest weakness so far. 3 goals in 6 apps and he is always trying to be on the end of things, moment he comes on or starts , he is looking the part 1 in 4 where it counts. And in the league I think he has looked off it because he needs more time when he has the ball. If that’s down to fitness then it will change.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 25, 2021 20:21:02 GMT
Just remember that Bayern had written this lad off before he had kicked a ball for us, so now all he is doing is justifying his stance, because he can never admit that he was talking utter horse spunk. Eh? I think he’s done way better than I expected 😂but I’m still not convinced. You don’t want to be convinced do you, let’s be honest.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 20:26:30 GMT
Eh? I think he’s done way better than I expected 😂but I’m still not convinced. You don’t want to be convinced do you, let’s be honest. Why wouldn’t I want to be convinced? 😂 So far imo he’s struggled in front of goal in the league.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 20:28:55 GMT
Eh? I think he’s done way better than I expected 😂but I’m still not convinced. You don’t want to be convinced do you, let’s be honest. Transparent
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 20:35:44 GMT
You don’t want to be convinced do you, let’s be honest. Transparent Bullshit. Why wouldn’t I want him to do well? Makes absolutely no sense. Hes scored two goals in a meaningless cup comp against lower league opposition. And in the league his overall play has looked decent but his finishing and getting shots off in particular has looked poor. It’s really not that controversial of an opinion is it 😂
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 20:40:07 GMT
Bullshit. Why wouldn’t I want him to do well? Makes absolutely no sense. Hes scored two goals in a meaningless cup comp against lower league opposition. And in the league his overall play has looked decent but his finishing and getting shots off in particular has looked poor. It’s really not that controversial of an opinion is it 😂 Because you had written him off before a he had kicked a ball for us, and you simply cannot be wrong about anything (in your head). And here you are, right on cue, completely dismissing two of his goals, to somehow use it against a player who has had a cracking start to his Stoke City career.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 20:42:13 GMT
Bullshit. Why wouldn’t I want him to do well? Makes absolutely no sense. Hes scored two goals in a meaningless cup comp against lower league opposition. And in the league his overall play has looked decent but his finishing and getting shots off in particular has looked poor. It’s really not that controversial of an opinion is it 😂 Because you had written him off before a he had kicked a ball for us, and you simply cannot be wrong about anything (in your head). And here you are, right on cue, completely dismissing two of his goals, to somehow use it against a player who has had a cracking start to his Stoke City career. Yes I can. I already am wrong about him 😂😂🤦♂️ I’ve never counted cup goals for anyone!
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 20:46:08 GMT
Because you had written him off before a he had kicked a ball for us, and you simply cannot be wrong about anything (in your head). And here you are, right on cue, completely dismissing two of his goals, to somehow use it against a player who has had a cracking start to his Stoke City career. Yes I can. I already am wrong about him 😂😂🤦♂️ I’ve never counted cup goals for anyone! That's the first time I've ever known you to write that "I've never counted cup goals for anyone" That's one of your best ever
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Post by GreaterGlasgowstokie on Aug 25, 2021 20:50:53 GMT
Struggled in the league? Not sure if I'm losing my mind as I approach middle age but I can only remember him coming on late in a league game and scoring a late winner, starting one away game and that was our best away performance for a few years.
How has he struggled?
And his finish last night was excellent, a quick touch to get into position and a great finish.
It's too early to judge but you can hardly say he's struggled. He's hardly played and he's on 3 already 😂
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 20:55:53 GMT
Yes I can. I already am wrong about him 😂😂🤦♂️ I’ve never counted cup goals for anyone! That's the first time I've ever known you to write that "I've never counted cup goals for anyone" That's one of your best ever The cup is largely irrelevant.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 20:56:54 GMT
Struggled in the league? Not sure if I'm losing my mind as I approach middle age but I can only remember him coming on late in a league game and scoring a late winner, starting one away game and that was our best away performance for a few years. How has he struggled? And his finish last night was excellent, a quick touch to get into position and a great finish. It's too early to judge but you can hardly say he's struggled. He's hardly played and he's on 3 already 😂 Don't be so daft. 2 of those goals don't count
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Post by Deleted on Aug 25, 2021 20:58:10 GMT
That's the first time I've ever known you to write that "I've never counted cup goals for anyone" That's one of your best ever The cup is largely irrelevant. Can't wait until you're the same age as March, you'll be an absolute pisser. Just hope I'm still around to see it
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 20:58:28 GMT
Struggled in the league? Not sure if I'm losing my mind as I approach middle age but I can only remember him coming on late in a league game and scoring a late winner, starting one away game and that was our best away performance for a few years. How has he struggled? And his finish last night was excellent, a quick touch to get into position and a great finish. It's too early to judge but you can hardly say he's struggled. He's hardly played and he's on 3 already 😂 Thought he messed up a lot of good positions against Swansea and I wasn’t impressed. And on Saturday we lost momentum imo when Fletcher went off and he came on. Just think he’s been ok finishing/striker wise in the league. Lots of hard running. Some decent movement. But yeah just average to poor for me so far.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 21:00:44 GMT
The cup is largely irrelevant. Can't wait until you're the same age as March, you'll be an absolute pisser. Just hope I'm still around to see it They are for a club like ours on the whole. We’re not going to win them so imo that makes them irrelevant. The league is where it counts. Love the FA Cup. But the League Cup is an irrelevant shit show as this round has shown with the amount of changes sides are making.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 25, 2021 21:03:36 GMT
You don’t want to be convinced do you, let’s be honest. Why wouldn’t I want to be convinced? 😂 So far imo he’s struggled in front of goal in the league. Two threads now where you're repeating the same thing. Honestly, no one gives a shit if you're convinced or not, just see the very clear positives and get behind him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 21:05:21 GMT
Why wouldn’t I want to be convinced? 😂 So far imo he’s struggled in front of goal in the league. Two threads now where you're repeating the same thing. Honestly, no one gives a shit if you're convinced or not, just see the very clear positives and get behind him. Why not discuss them honestly? 😂🤦♂️
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Aug 25, 2021 21:06:29 GMT
Bullshit. Why wouldn’t I want him to do well? Makes absolutely no sense. Hes scored two goals in a meaningless cup comp against lower league opposition. And in the league his overall play has looked decent but his finishing and getting shots off in particular has looked poor. It’s really not that controversial of an opinion is it 😂 'Meaningless' in the year that's the 50th anniversary of our only major trophy.
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 25, 2021 21:07:57 GMT
Two threads now where you're repeating the same thing. Honestly, no one gives a shit if you're convinced or not, just see the very clear positives and get behind him. Why not discuss them honestly? 😂🤦♂️ You've discussed it honestly plenty now you're just being fucking boring and repetitive.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 21:08:00 GMT
Bullshit. Why wouldn’t I want him to do well? Makes absolutely no sense. Hes scored two goals in a meaningless cup comp against lower league opposition. And in the league his overall play has looked decent but his finishing and getting shots off in particular has looked poor. It’s really not that controversial of an opinion is it 😂 'Meaningless' in the year that's the 50th anniversary of our only major trophy. Yes. Look at how teams treat it. It needs abolishing or majorly changing.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Aug 25, 2021 21:08:44 GMT
Why not discuss them honestly? 😂🤦♂️ You've discussed it honestly plenty now you're just being fucking boring and repetitive. Ah so you whining about it will stop that. My mistake 😂😂
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Post by tachyon on Aug 26, 2021 7:41:43 GMT
Championship: 202 mins, 7 attempts on goal, 0.71 Total xG, 1 goal.
0.34 non Pen xG per 90, 3.3 attempts per 90, 0.48 goals per 90.
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EFL Cup: 134 mins, 5 attempts on goal, 1.37 Total xG, 2 goals.
0.92 non pen xG per 90, 3.4 attempts per 90, 1.34 goals per 90.
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Combined:
0.58 non pen xG per 90, 3.3 attempts per 90, 0.83 goals per 90.
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Oh and he set up Clucas for the second against Swansea.
Outstanding start to his Stoke career.
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Post by femark on Aug 26, 2021 7:43:35 GMT
You don’t want to be convinced do you, let’s be honest. Why wouldn’t I want to be convinced? 😂 So far imo he’s struggled in front of goal in the league. You do have a habit of forming an opinion and sticking to it blindly
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Post by hardcastle on Aug 26, 2021 7:53:17 GMT
Added to which, players do improve. Campbell being a case in point. And this season, Smith, Tymon and Brown too. Let's see after 20, 30 games, we'll have a better idea then.
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Post by sheds1862 on Aug 26, 2021 9:13:40 GMT
He's doing very nicely thanks very much.
Just the thread title is way way OTT.
Standard on here ,no middle ground.
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Post by thischarmingmanc on Aug 26, 2021 10:42:31 GMT
Hmmmm new striker 6 games in 3 goals one assist.
Whilst being rotated, and not yet match Sharpe.
Time will tell, but I don't think we could have asked for a better start than that.
Bayern out of interest what would be a good start in your book? and what do you expect when paying 2.5 million for a 23 year old striker?
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Post by christhepotter on Aug 26, 2021 10:56:28 GMT
Hmmmm new striker 6 games in 3 goals one assist. Whilst being rotated, and not yet match Sharpe. Time will tell, but I don't think we could have asked for a better start than that. Bayern out of interest what would be a good start in your book? and what do you expect when paying 2.5 million for a 23 year old striker? Bayern’s not criticising his stats , he’s just rightly pointing out that Surridge needs a little to much time on the ball to get his shit away at the moment , that may improve once he’s fully match fit
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Post by outspaced on Aug 26, 2021 11:14:07 GMT
Maybe Bayern just doesn't fancy blondes?
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Post by independent on Aug 26, 2021 11:26:21 GMT
I'm afraid I have to agree with Bayern That he has lots of room for improvement but if Brown,Tymon,Smith and Clucas are anything to judge by then he is going to be a great addition to the side. Everyone is rushing to judgement too quickly, let's see how he looks after the International break. I'm hoping to see a significant improvement.
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Post by butlerstbob on Aug 26, 2021 11:32:51 GMT
Championship: 202 mins, 7 attempts on goal, 0.71 Total xG, 1 goal. 0.34 non Pen xG per 90, 3.3 attempts per 90, 0.48 goals per 90. ..................................................................... EFL Cup: 134 mins, 5 attempts on goal, 1.37 Total xG, 2 goals. 0.92 non pen xG per 90, 3.4 attempts per 90, 1.34 goals per 90. ..................................................................... Combined: 0.58 non pen xG per 90, 3.3 attempts per 90, 0.83 goals per 90. ..................................................................... Oh and he set up Clucas for the second against Swansea. Outstanding start to his Stoke career. Sorry matey but stats, facts and cup goals don't count!
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Post by lordb on Aug 26, 2021 11:36:11 GMT
Hmmmm new striker 6 games in 3 goals one assist. Whilst being rotated, and not yet match Sharpe. Time will tell, but I don't think we could have asked for a better start than that. Bayern out of interest what would be a good start in your book? and what do you expect when paying 2.5 million for a 23 year old striker? He stated he expects under ten goals from Surridge (not on this thread) He should be on for around 15 I'd say
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