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Post by march4 on May 3, 2022 20:54:38 GMT
You're picking from Dyche and Robins from that list given the owners parameters. I like Dyche at this level, but you can't help to be worried at how bad it got at Burnley given a bloke has gone in there that failed at Tranmere and turned them around in his sleep. Robins is one with a good record at face value but dig deeper and he hasn't really done much outside of crisis Coventry. Shades of Cook at Wigan? You'd honestly swap MON for Carrick given our archaic structure? Dyche just got stale. Leadership is a finite quantity. Even good leaders struggle to maintain impetus after 10 years in the same place. After a decent holiday with his family he will be raring to go again. |
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Post by march4 on May 3, 2022 20:55:22 GMT
So how come our own MON isn't on the radar for these promotion hunting Championship clubs? Excellent question. |
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Post by J-Roar on May 3, 2022 21:07:41 GMT
Leadership is a finite quantity. Even good leaders struggle to maintain impetus after 10 years in the same place. After a decent holiday with his family he will be raring to go again. Anyone else in mind? Help me out, I'm struggling |
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Post by Pugsley on May 4, 2022 11:27:07 GMT
So how come our own MON isn't on the radar for these promotion hunting Championship clubs? Excellent question. How do you know he isn't? |
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Post by thevoid on May 4, 2022 12:49:16 GMT
How do you know he isn't? Occam's razor. Plus unlike Wilder and other managers currently in jobs he doesn't seem to pop up in the betting odds which tells it's own story. Beyond ST4 and Belfast he's a non-entity Imagine you supported a club who'd just got relegated to the Championship and your club employed MON. How would you feel? A: excited and looking forward to a proper tilt at promotion or; B: meh, an uninspiring appointment who can't get above midtable |
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Post by Pugsley on May 4, 2022 14:30:11 GMT
How do you know he isn't? Occam's razor. Plus unlike Wilder and other managers currently in jobs he doesn't seem to pop up in the betting odds which tells it's own story. Beyond ST4 and Belfast he's a non-entity Imagine you supported a club who'd just got relegated to the Championship and your club employed MON. How would you feel? A: excited and looking forward to a proper tilt at promotion or; B: meh, an uninspiring appointment who can't get above midtable It tells no story at all. We're now judging our Manager on betting odds. Jeeez. For the record, apart from Macari and maybe Brian Little, i've been meh about every single manager these clowns have appointed. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 4, 2022 16:04:16 GMT
Leadership is a finite quantity. Even good leaders struggle to maintain impetus after 10 years in the same place. After a decent holiday with his family he will be raring to go again. Anyone else in mind? Help me out, I'm struggling It’s true. Very few managers achieve more after their first three years than they did in that initial period. 1 time in a thousand you’ll have a SAF but 999 times you’d be wrong to keep them longer than three years. A new face and some fresh ideas within a similar ideology can be absolutely positive. Lurching about all over the place not so. Unfortunately we don’t seem to have an underlying ideology or maybe we do and I just don’t like it and the ones I do like are just the odd anomaly. |
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Post by thevoid on May 4, 2022 17:45:29 GMT
Occam's razor. Plus unlike Wilder and other managers currently in jobs he doesn't seem to pop up in the betting odds which tells it's own story. Beyond ST4 and Belfast he's a non-entity Imagine you supported a club who'd just got relegated to the Championship and your club employed MON. How would you feel? A: excited and looking forward to a proper tilt at promotion or; B: meh, an uninspiring appointment who can't get above midtable It tells no story at all. We're now judging our Manager on betting odds. Jeeez. For the record, apart from Macari and maybe Brian Little, i've been meh about every single manager these clowns have appointed. Not judging him on betting odds at all, there's plenty of other things under his control he can be judged on. But the fact remains, if he was a managerial hot property, he'd be included in the book when this type of job comes up. Don't you find it odd (no pun intended) that he isn't? |
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Post by Pugsley on May 4, 2022 18:50:03 GMT
It tells no story at all. We're now judging our Manager on betting odds. Jeeez. For the record, apart from Macari and maybe Brian Little, i've been meh about every single manager these clowns have appointed. Not judging him on betting odds at all, there's plenty of other things under his control he can be judged on. But the fact remains, if he was a managerial hot property, he'd be included in the book when this type of job comes up. Don't you find it odd (no pun intended) that he isn't? It's an absolute nonsense. Look a the names on that Watford list ffs. Crammed with hot property...  Watford fans salivating at the thought of John Eustace taking them back up next season. Laughable. |
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Post by thevoid on May 4, 2022 20:29:20 GMT
Not judging him on betting odds at all, there's plenty of other things under his control he can be judged on. But the fact remains, if he was a managerial hot property, he'd be included in the book when this type of job comes up. Don't you find it odd (no pun intended) that he isn't? It's an absolute nonsense. Look a the names on that Watford list ffs. Crammed with hot property... Watford fans salivating at the thought of John Eustace taking them back up next season. Laughable. You've missed the point as per. It's really not difficult- if MON is making a name for himself here, why is he an afterthought when people are compiling the potential runners and riders for clubs who'll have cash to spend and will be looking at the upper echelons of the table? John Eustace is probably in the book for Watford because he's a coach, he used to play for them and he's one of about five coaches in Europe who haven't managed Watford yet. Anyway, not carrying on with this exchange, you're just being obtuse now. |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 5, 2022 11:34:18 GMT
Looks like Watford are going for a young, British, tracksuit coach. Bit of a departure theathletic.com/3293038/2022/05/04/eustace-manning-and-richardson-among-targets-as-watford-eye-young-homegrown-managers/Former Watford captain John Eustace, who is top of many bookmakers’ “Next manager odds” lists is a genuine contender, but is not alone in the race.
QPR play their final game of the season at Swansea City — managed by another candidate who has been discussed for the Watford job, Russell Martin — on Saturday.
MK Dons manager Liam Manning is another candidate of interest, but Watford would need patience if they were keen to progress their interest there. Sources close to the 36-year-old say he is fully focused on the job in hand of trying to win promotion from League One via the play-offs.
Wigan Athletic are already up to the second division having won League One under the stewardship of Leam Richardson, who is also being reviewed as a potential candidate.
Elsewhere in the third tier, Ipswich Town manager Kieran McKenna, formerly a Manchester United first-team coach and assistant to Jose Mourinho before taking his first senior management role at Portman Road in December, is a name that has been linked with the job in local media coverage in Suffolk. But at this stage, the 35-year-old is not understood to be high on Watford’s list of potential candidates.
Rob Edwards, who has led Forest Green Rovers to promotion to League One, is another attracting interest from the Watford hierarchy. The former Wales and Wolves defender, who worked at the latter club as under-23s head coach before taking a role with England Under-16s, has won plaudits for Forest Green’s style of play.
Overseas candidates will naturally be kept in Pozzo’s back pocket — some are discussed here — but it appears that Watford are strongly considering going homegrown this time. There is likely to be competition from other clubs for many of those being whittled down into a final shortlist
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Post by Pugsley on May 5, 2022 14:54:20 GMT
It's an absolute nonsense. Look a the names on that Watford list ffs. Crammed with hot property...  Watford fans salivating at the thought of John Eustace taking them back up next season. Laughable. You've missed the point as per. It's really not difficult- if MON is making a name for himself here, why is he an afterthought when people are compiling the potential runners and riders for clubs who'll have cash to spend and will be looking at the upper echelons of the table? John Eustace is probably in the book for Watford because he's a coach, he used to play for them and he's one of about five coaches in Europe who haven't managed Watford yet. Anyway, not carrying on with this exchange, you're just being obtuse now. I missed it because there isn't one of any merit. Why wasn't Tony Pulis mentioned as a candidate for other jobs when we were in the PL? Dyche the same? Absolute nonsense. |
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 5, 2022 18:50:19 GMT
You've missed the point as per. It's really not difficult- if MON is making a name for himself here, why is he an afterthought when people are compiling the potential runners and riders for clubs who'll have cash to spend and will be looking at the upper echelons of the table? John Eustace is probably in the book for Watford because he's a coach, he used to play for them and he's one of about five coaches in Europe who haven't managed Watford yet. Anyway, not carrying on with this exchange, you're just being obtuse now. I missed it because there isn't one of any merit. Why wasn't Tony Pulis mentioned as a candidate for other jobs when we were in the PL? Dyche the same? Absolute nonsense. Not mentioned because they’re not aspirational managers. They’re not really what any club or set of fans wants apart from a few of ours with Stockholm syndrome. Football’s bin men. |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 6, 2022 7:38:56 GMT
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on May 6, 2022 7:46:43 GMT
Pretty bold of him given he's won a grand total of six Premier League games out of 49... |
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Post by lordb on May 6, 2022 8:15:10 GMT
Pretty bold of him given he's won a grand total of six Premier League games out of 49... Indeed However Bundesliga club he might get |
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Post by FullerMagic on May 6, 2022 8:17:34 GMT
Farke's got about as much chance of getting a Prem job as Mr Blobby.
He'll be at a Champ, or at a lower Bundesliga club by July, you'd think. That's his market.
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Post by leesandfordstoupe on May 6, 2022 8:28:01 GMT
Pretty bold of him given he's won a grand total of six Premier League games out of 49... Deluded and bold must be the same thing then. I’ll add it to my thesaurus. |
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Post by liathroid on May 6, 2022 9:15:06 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 9:17:12 GMT
Farke's got about as much chance of getting a Prem job as Mr Blobby. He'll be at a Champ, or at a lower Bundesliga club by July, you'd think. That's his market. He and the rest of them will wait, like Dyche probably. Outside of a parachute club they know their chances of promotion are a FFP riddled coin toss. They will wait until November where most will probably change their managers at the natural break. They know that once they accept a middle of the road Championship club, they are pretty much stuck at that level for the duration. You can't blame them for waiting. |
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 9:57:43 GMT
Fucking hell, I'll sleep tonight now knowing that. |
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Post by thevoid on May 6, 2022 12:20:54 GMT
You've missed the point as per. It's really not difficult- if MON is making a name for himself here, why is he an afterthought when people are compiling the potential runners and riders for clubs who'll have cash to spend and will be looking at the upper echelons of the table? John Eustace is probably in the book for Watford because he's a coach, he used to play for them and he's one of about five coaches in Europe who haven't managed Watford yet. Anyway, not carrying on with this exchange, you're just being obtuse now. I missed it because there isn't one of any merit. Why wasn't Tony Pulis mentioned as a candidate for other jobs when we were in the PL? Dyche the same? Absolute nonsense. Why would Pulis or Dyche be included in Championship club betting odds when they were managing in the Premier League? The two scenarios aren't even comparable. |
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Post by thevoid on May 6, 2022 12:22:00 GMT
Thanks, sorry, 'tanks' for that scoop, roid 😀 |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 6, 2022 12:35:08 GMT
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Post by Deleted on May 6, 2022 12:53:36 GMT
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Post by swampySCFC on May 7, 2022 13:57:03 GMT
Decent football man hope he enjoys his retirement, whoever goes in there has a tough act to follow Absolutely right |
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Post by wakeypotter on May 7, 2022 14:08:06 GMT
Thank fuck for that 😅 We normally sign ex shamrock rovers managers who are shit |
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Post by Stoke711 on May 7, 2022 14:17:46 GMT
www.thesun.co.uk/sport/football/14962012/fulham-scott-parker-relegation-staying/There's been some talk of a row with the owners and some interest from Bournemouth Wilder looks the early fav for WBA m.skybet.com/football/manager-specials/event/27639582Chris Wilder 1/3 Derek McInnes 8/1 Valérien Ismaël 12/1 Alex Neil 16/1 Enzo Maresca 16/1 Frank Lampard 16/1 John Terry 16/1 Mark Hughes 20/1 Eddie Howe 25/1 Nicky Butt 25/1 Roberto Di Matteo 25/1 Steve Cooper 25/1 Graeme Jones 33/1 Joey Barton 33/1 Lee Bowyer 33/1 Marco Silva 33/1 Sean Dyche 33/1 Steven Gerrard 33/1 Alan Pardew 50/1 Andre Villas-Boas 50/1 Roy Keane 50/1 Claudio Ranieri 66/1 Daniel Farke 66/1 Neil Warnock 66/1 Ralph Hasenhuttl 66/1 Tim Sherwood 80/1 Wayne Rooney 80/1 Shows how shite we are, our manager not even in the betting |
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Post by Fred Ferret on May 7, 2022 14:27:20 GMT
MON is going to Hibernian - but only if they accept an offer of £3 and a packet of woodbines from Stoke.
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Post by gaznandi on May 11, 2022 6:54:39 GMT
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