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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 20:31:25 GMT
the way the BBC is going she'll be headhunted by them for her own chat show I should possibly re phrase that Just read the story on the BBC news app: BBC News - Shamima Begum cannot return to UK, Supreme Court rules www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56209007What part of it is supportive of her? By the BBCyou mean DominicCasciani? he wouldn't allow anyone into the country if he had his way. great find
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Post by RipRoaringPotter on Feb 26, 2021 20:35:32 GMT
Just read the story on the BBC news app: BBC News - Shamima Begum cannot return to UK, Supreme Court rules www.bbc.co.uk/news/uk-56209007What part of it is supportive of her? By the BBCyou mean DominicCasciani? he wouldn't allow anyone into the country if he had his way. great find I was looking at the BBC coverage to see if it was favourable to her, like I thought you were stating (maybe Imisunderstood?). I couldn't see anything in the report that was debatable.
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Post by RedandWhite90 on Feb 26, 2021 22:43:46 GMT
Really interesting decision by the Supreme Court.
I'm fairly confident the overwhelming majority will be pleased with the decision but she does prove to be an intriguing case.
There will be those arguing she was groomed and didn't know what she was doing at 15 will have supported voting age for 16 year olds.
Alternatively, there will be those arguing 16 year olds shouldn't have a vote but supporting that at 15 she knew exactly what she was doing.
I want to see British judgement passed on her ultimately, a western trial and full force of the law imposed but I certainly don't feel disappointed with the outcome today, she can find a way to have her trial heard without stepping foot into the UK until judgement has been passed.
Ball in her and her defense teams court to come up with the solutions and we can sit and wait patiently.
Good result all round in my book.
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Post by sheikhmomo on Feb 26, 2021 23:05:43 GMT
She won't be made stateless. She will be coming back. Then she will rightly face another trial. Quite why we have to go through this farago on the way to thiat point is utterly mental.
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 26, 2021 23:13:15 GMT
She won't be made stateless. She will be coming back. Then she will rightly face another trial. Quite why we have to go through this farago on the way to thiat point is utterly mental. Thatâs correct, wonât she become a citizen of Bangladesh?
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Post by Dutchpeter on Feb 26, 2021 23:15:06 GMT
She won't be made stateless. She will be coming back. Then she will rightly face another trial. Quite why we have to go through this farago on the way to thiat point is utterly mental. Thatâs correct, wonât she become a citizen of Bangladesh?
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 26, 2021 23:15:22 GMT
She's British, she's our problem and we should deal with it.
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Post by Boothen on Feb 26, 2021 23:18:42 GMT
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Post by numpty40 on Feb 26, 2021 23:22:15 GMT
She was born and brought up in the UK, she's British.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 26, 2021 23:40:30 GMT
She's British, she's our problem and we should deal with it. Yeah that'll teach her. Fuck her, fuck her kids, fuck all of her family, hope she rots in whatever shit hole she's residing in. She lost all her rights to be called "British" the minute she decided to give herself to those scum bastards.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Feb 27, 2021 0:15:55 GMT
She is English
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Post by PotterLog on Feb 27, 2021 2:36:48 GMT
She won't be made stateless. She will be coming back. Then she will rightly face another trial. Quite why we have to go through this farago on the way to thiat point is utterly mental. Thatâs correct, wonât she become a citizen of Bangladesh? They donât want her either
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 27, 2021 9:04:16 GMT
When it suits her she is. Interesting that she wanted to join a terrorist group overseas intent on killing women, children and men from her country of birth. Regardless of the finer details thereâs a morality issue here which for me far out trumps any technicality re her right to return. In relation to the age issue. itâs deemed by British law that once someone reaches the age of 10 theyâre deemed responsible for their actions. Yes she was a child when she went overseas but she certainly wasnât naive enough to know what she wasnât doing and she certainly had the skills to get herself over to Syria. If she does return here the very least she deserves is fo never see the light of day from a prison cell ever again.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2021 9:06:36 GMT
She's British, she's our problem and we should deal with it. Bullet in the head.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 27, 2021 9:12:36 GMT
When it suits her she is. Interesting that she wanted to join a terrorist group overseas intent on killing women, children and men from her country of birth. Regardless of the finer details thereâs a morality issue here which for me far out trumps any technicality re her right to return. In relation to the age issue. itâs deemed by British law that once someone reaches the age of 10 theyâre deemed responsible for their actions. Yes she was a child when she went overseas but she certainly wasnât naive enough to know what she wasnât doing and she certainly had the skills to get herself over to Syria. If she does return here the very least she deserves is fo never see the light of day from a prison cell ever again. Problem is, we both know that wouldn't happen if she was allowed back.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2021 9:13:18 GMT
She won't be made stateless. She will be coming back. Then she will rightly face another trial. Quite why we have to go through this farago on the way to thiat point is utterly mental. Thatâs correct, wonât she become a citizen of Bangladesh? Hopefully she would face the death penalty 100% not that they want the spunk bucket either, all these crying about us making her stateless are as guilty as she is of making others headless.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2021 9:16:50 GMT
When it suits her she is. Interesting that she wanted to join a terrorist group overseas intent on killing women, children and men from her country of birth. Regardless of the finer details thereâs a morality issue here which for me far out trumps any technicality re her right to return. In relation to the age issue. itâs deemed by British law that once someone reaches the age of 10 theyâre deemed responsible for their actions. Yes she was a child when she went overseas but she certainly wasnât naive enough to know what she wasnât doing and she certainly had the skills to get herself over to Syria. If she does return here the very least she deserves is fo never see the light of day from a prison cell ever again. Problem is, we both know that wouldn't happen if she was allowed back. Pathetic sentence no prison time, new identity set up for the rest of her scum bag life, breed like a rabbit with any other heathen jihadi over here and bleed the system like many others, the libtard woke wankers fawning all over the vile bitch.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 27, 2021 10:00:30 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole.
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Post by wagsastokie on Feb 27, 2021 10:12:18 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole. Have a word with Bangladesh get them to offer here rights of resident And weâll drop tariffs on there cheap tat clothing Jobs a good un Iâm sure a few years in a Bangladeshi jail will concentrate her mind
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2021 10:21:28 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole. Have a word with Bangladesh get them to offer here rights of resident And weâll drop tariffs on there cheap tat clothing Jobs a good un Iâm sure a few years in a Bangladeshi jail will concentrate her mind She will be handed a death sentence if she goes to Bangladesh and rightly so.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 27, 2021 10:25:40 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole. If we accept the bitch back because she is a "British" citizen it is the perfect time to empty out prisons of foreign nationals, that would only be right and fair plus save us billions.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 27, 2021 11:05:49 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole. She could live 'in limbo' at an an airport like in that Tom Hanks film, as they are classed as stateless territories đ That would be the worst punishment of all for her, all those aeroplanes so close and people milling about, but she'd be unable to do any harm. A bit like Tantalus in Greek myth, with the fruit and water just out of reach.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 27, 2021 11:16:50 GMT
When it suits her she is. Interesting that she wanted to join a terrorist group overseas intent on killing women, children and men from her country of birth. Regardless of the finer details thereâs a morality issue here which for me far out trumps any technicality re her right to return. In relation to the age issue. itâs deemed by British law that once someone reaches the age of 10 theyâre deemed responsible for their actions. Yes she was a child when she went overseas but she certainly wasnât naive enough to know what she wasnât doing and she certainly had the skills to get herself over to Syria. If she does return here the very least she deserves is fo never see the light of day from a prison cell ever again. Problem is, we both know that wouldn't happen if she was allowed back. And thatâs the big worry and will be setting a precident for anyone of a similar age looking to do the same in the future in joining ISIS. Iâd imagine itâll mean them looking to recruit young people 14-16 and selling to them that they can always come back if it doesnât work out.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 27, 2021 11:23:23 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole. The bottom bit is spot on however with the weak sentences being given I canât see that happening whoever she is. Those defending her will come out with the âwell we donât have any direct evidence that she hurt anyone herselfâ and sheâll be issued 10 years and out in 5. Itâs a big decision to be made and one that wonât please everyone. Shes clearly exploiting our leniancy as a nation not because she wants to come back because she loves the U.K.
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Post by thevoid on Feb 27, 2021 11:29:29 GMT
She'll end up getting a slap on the wrist, a 2 year suspended sentence and witness protection. Celebrity Big Brother & a weekly column in the Guardian is awaiting her, I can see it now... "Why white, male, working class Brexit voters made me join ISIS". Have The Grauniad announced when the vigil is yet?
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 27, 2021 14:08:07 GMT
An astonishing thread. Some of the posters likening her to the victims at Rochdale and blaming the British public for turning her head into ISIS. I despair I really do. I wonder if their attitudes would be the same if theyâd been personally affected by ISIS or lost a relative to one of their bombings. At no point should she ever be turned into a victim. If she is then a precident will well and truely be set for anyone under the age of 17 who commits a criminal offence.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Feb 27, 2021 14:25:29 GMT
An astonishing thread. Some of the posters likening her to the victims at Rochdale and blaming the British public for turning her head into ISIS. I despair I really do. I wonder if their attitudes would be the same if theyâd been personally affected by ISIS. At no point should she ever be turned into a victim. If she is then a precident will well and truely be set for anyone under the age of 17 who commits a criminal offence. Just disgusting behaviour bordering on extremism
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 27, 2021 14:30:00 GMT
An astonishing thread. Some of the posters likening her to the victims at Rochdale and blaming the British public for turning her head into ISIS. I despair I really do. I wonder if their attitudes would be the same if theyâd been personally affected by ISIS. At no point should she ever be turned into a victim. If she is then a precident will well and truely be set for anyone under the age of 17 who commits a criminal offence. Just disgusting behaviour bordering on extremism The thing is itâs got nothing to do with colour or background itâs got everything to do with joining a terrorist group. She could be John Smith a white, 16 year old, British male and if he made the same choices Iâd want him out too. Itâs not about colour or religion but itâs all about doing the morally right thing.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 27, 2021 15:24:09 GMT
As I've said repeatedly in this thread, I'm over the moon she's lost this battle but SHE IS BRITISH therefore we owe it to other nations to do something. We owe her fuck all but ultimately, don't expect other countries to be so willing to take back their terrorists if we decide we don't fancy taking back ours. If she does come back, we need to ensure she's given a life sentence with no chance of parole. If we accept the bitch back because she is a "British" citizen it is the perfect time to empty out prisons of foreign nationals, that would only be right and fair plus save us billions. that's the point, we we'll end up with a lot more if we aren't careful. We deport a surprising amount...
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Post by thevoid on Feb 27, 2021 15:57:47 GMT
An astonishing thread. Some of the posters likening her to the victims at Rochdale and blaming the British public for turning her head into ISIS. I despair I really do. I wonder if their attitudes would be the same if theyâd been personally affected by ISIS or lost a relative to one of their bombings. At no point should she ever be turned into a victim. If she is then a precident will well and truely be set for anyone under the age of 17 who commits a criminal offence. It's amazing how some people suddenly want to start mentioning grooming victims in places like Rochdale when they probably haven't even given the matter a second thought before.
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