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Post by crouchpotato1 on Feb 26, 2021 10:05:32 GMT
Great news to start the day,rot in hellđđ
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Post by franklin on Feb 26, 2021 10:19:37 GMT
Excellent news.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 26, 2021 10:20:01 GMT
I thinks its a perfectly fair decision and her appeal against citizenship being stripped still gets to be heard, in the end I think its likely she will be allowed back after her appeal.
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Post by mattyd2 on Feb 26, 2021 10:34:03 GMT
Pity she can't rot in The Glasshouse at Colchester, any ex military will know exactly what I mean.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 26, 2021 10:35:48 GMT
her actions were tantamount to treason, shes lucky not to be taken to the tower
ut severis segis, as you sow so shall you reap
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Post by thevoid on Feb 26, 2021 11:06:28 GMT
Bed made, time for a lie down love.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 11:57:47 GMT
No doubt this will be appealed by some so called "Human Rights Lawyer sorry Lizard" backed by an army of woke, libtard, bleeding heart, middle aged purple haired lesbians, and the followers of the religion of peace, vile, jihadi heathen spunk bucket let her rot in the desert if she is desperate to see her family maybe she could pay for a one way ticket to fly them all out there, she chose that life now fcuking enjoy it bitch.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 26, 2021 11:58:05 GMT
Massively shocked, but pleasantly surprised......is she allowed to appeal? Iâm sure there will still be some disagreement with the decision though.
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Post by franklin on Feb 26, 2021 12:00:35 GMT
Massively shocked, but pleasantly surprised......is she allowed to appeal? Iâm sure there will still be some disagreement with the decision though. I'm not sure this was the UK Surpreme Court we are no longer tied to the EU so thats one avenue gone. So im not sure where she can appeal to.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 26, 2021 12:41:14 GMT
As FYD has indicated, this is just not coming back for the appeal. I fully expect her to win her appeal so not a time for celebration. Thereâs still plenty of money for the lawyers to make yet.
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Post by franklin on Feb 26, 2021 12:45:34 GMT
As FYD has indicated, this is just not coming back for the appeal. I fully expect her to win her appeal so not a time for celebration. Thereâs still plenty of money for the lawyers to make yet. I know but keeping her out for the appeal is a great start, once she was here it would be hard to get rid again and I'm not sure she will win.
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 26, 2021 12:51:26 GMT
As FYD has indicated, this is just not coming back for the appeal. I fully expect her to win her appeal so not a time for celebration. Thereâs still plenty of money for the lawyers to make yet. She is clearly a loathsome individual and not the innocent she is portrayed as, stripping citizenship from people who emigrate to other countries is perfectly normal when the person has been involved in serious crimes like she has and is done the world over but she and jack letts have only ever lived in the uk so I can't see how eventually the courts wont let her back in.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 26, 2021 13:54:03 GMT
Responsible for the greatest quote of all time:
"They've absolutely no proof that I'm a threat to anyone, other than that I was in ISIS."
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 14:01:49 GMT
Responsible for the greatest quote of all time: "They've absolutely no proof that I'm a threat to anyone, other than that I was in ISIS." Classic they really can not accept that they are barbaric heathen scum can they, if they do let her in they should accidentally announce where she will be living.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Feb 26, 2021 14:09:49 GMT
Common sense prevails.
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Post by felonious on Feb 26, 2021 14:16:31 GMT
Massively shocked, but pleasantly surprised......is she allowed to appeal? Iâm sure there will still be some disagreement with the decision though. I'm not sure this was the UK Surpreme Court we are no longer tied to the EU so thats one avenue gone. So im not sure where she can appeal to. The EU should have nothing to do in matters like this one.
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Post by franklin on Feb 26, 2021 15:42:17 GMT
I'm not sure this was the UK Surpreme Court we are no longer tied to the EU so thats one avenue gone. So im not sure where she can appeal to. The EU should have nothing to do in matters like this one. They would if we were still in she could appeal the the European Courts i think.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 15:53:50 GMT
I'm not sure this was the UK Surpreme Court we are no longer tied to the EU so thats one avenue gone. So im not sure where she can appeal to. The EU should have nothing to do in matters like this one. Thankfully due to all the Brexiteers out there they can't.
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Post by flea79 on Feb 26, 2021 15:57:28 GMT
The EU should have nothing to do in matters like this one. They would if we were still in she could appeal the the European Courts i think. and that bunch of lily livered sandal wearing cheese eating surrender monkeys would make us taker her back!
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Post by wrighter on Feb 26, 2021 16:01:45 GMT
would she have wanted to return if Isis had won ? dam sure she wouldnt EU can no longer tell us what to do, so rot in Syria you loathsome bitch
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Post by Davef on Feb 26, 2021 16:24:22 GMT
The EU should have nothing to do in matters like this one. They would if we were still in she could appeal the the European Courts i think. She can appeal to the European Court of Human Rights. That has nothing to do with EU membership.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 26, 2021 16:29:05 GMT
The Guardian is now 4 articles deep on the matter. You can tell that they are absolutely seething... Which probably means it's the correct decision.
A few weeks ago, I argued the case for the WhatsApp terrorist, the 15 year old who was being released. He is rightly being given a second chance at life.
Shamima Begum is rightly being denied that chance. She not only crossed the line from simply aligning herself with certain beliefs to flying out to Syria, she also actively participated in the atrocities that took place. She will never talk about what she did, but there are enough people who seem happy to talk about her involvement. The Guardian and the BBC are keen to whitewash this and merely put this down to human trafficking. Blame the big bad human traffickers....
No. She wasn't sent over in the back of a shipping container to work in a car wash while sucking dick in the evening to pay off her debt. She willingly flew on a commercial flight to Turkey with her two pals, crossed over into Syria, and in her own words absolutely loved it at first. It was only when it all went tits up and she was left up shit creek without a paddle, that she had an unexpected change of heart and decided she fancied a bit of Primark and Debenhams.
She clearly bought into the utopia that was offered to her. She does not deserve a second chance.
The only issue is that she remains our shit to clean up. She was born in England.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 26, 2021 16:40:48 GMT
The Guardian is now 4 articles deep on the matter. You can tell that they are absolutely seething... Which probably means it's the correct decision. A few weeks ago, I argued the case for the WhatsApp terrorist, the 15 year old who was being released. He is rightly being given a second chance at life. Shamima Begum is rightly being denied that chance. She not only crossed the line from simply aligning herself with certain beliefs to flying out to Syria, she also actively participated in the atrocities that took place. She will never talk about what she did, but there are enough people who seem happy to talk about her involvement. The Guardian and the BBC are keen to whitewash this and merely put this down to human trafficking. Blame the big bad human traffickers.... No. She wasn't sent over in the back of a shipping container to work in a car wash while sucking dick in the evening to pay off her debt. She willingly flew on a commercial flight to Turkey with her two pals, crossed over into Syria, and in her own words absolutely loved it at first. It was only when it all went tits up and she was left up shit creek without a paddle, that she had an unexpected change of heart and decided she fancied a bit of Primark and Debenhams. She clearly bought into the utopia that was offered to her. She does not deserve a second chance. The only issue is that she remains our shit to clean up. She was born in England. Shove her in a bin bag like we do with the rest of our shit.
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2021 16:41:16 GMT
The Guardian is now 4 articles deep on the matter. You can tell that they are absolutely seething... Which probably means it's the correct decision. A few weeks ago, I argued the case for the WhatsApp terrorist, the 15 year old who was being released. He is rightly being given a second chance at life. Shamima Begum is rightly being denied that chance. She not only crossed the line from simply aligning herself with certain beliefs to flying out to Syria, she also actively participated in the atrocities that took place. She will never talk about what she did, but there are enough people who seem happy to talk about her involvement. The Guardian and the BBC are keen to whitewash this and merely put this down to human trafficking. Blame the big bad human traffickers.... No. She wasn't sent over in the back of a shipping container to work in a car wash while sucking dick in the evening to pay off her debt. She willingly flew on a commercial flight to Turkey with her two pals, crossed over into Syria, and in her own words absolutely loved it at first. It was only when it all went tits up and she was left up shit creek without a paddle, that she had an unexpected change of heart and decided she fancied a bit of Primark and Debenhams. She clearly bought into the utopia that was offered to her. She does not deserve a second chance. The only issue is that she remains our shit to clean up. She was born in England. It's not just the Guardian and BBC who have a view on this! These are senior Tories... www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/25/blocking-shamima-begums-return-will-terrorist-threat-against/
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Post by metalhead on Feb 26, 2021 16:46:22 GMT
The Guardian is now 4 articles deep on the matter. You can tell that they are absolutely seething... Which probably means it's the correct decision. A few weeks ago, I argued the case for the WhatsApp terrorist, the 15 year old who was being released. He is rightly being given a second chance at life. Shamima Begum is rightly being denied that chance. She not only crossed the line from simply aligning herself with certain beliefs to flying out to Syria, she also actively participated in the atrocities that took place. She will never talk about what she did, but there are enough people who seem happy to talk about her involvement. The Guardian and the BBC are keen to whitewash this and merely put this down to human trafficking. Blame the big bad human traffickers.... No. She wasn't sent over in the back of a shipping container to work in a car wash while sucking dick in the evening to pay off her debt. She willingly flew on a commercial flight to Turkey with her two pals, crossed over into Syria, and in her own words absolutely loved it at first. It was only when it all went tits up and she was left up shit creek without a paddle, that she had an unexpected change of heart and decided she fancied a bit of Primark and Debenhams. She clearly bought into the utopia that was offered to her. She does not deserve a second chance. The only issue is that she remains our shit to clean up. She was born in England. Shove her in a bin bag like we do with the rest of our shit. As we rightly don't have capital punishment, that isn't an option. The issue is that by being born in Britain, we have an obligation to deal with it. We could never complain again when our attempts to deport terrorists are blocked or stonewalled. Remember that, the next time Abu Hamza Jnr is evading deportation. This buys us some time, but I have no idea what we can do. I think if she was put on trial here, we would struggle to establish any kind of meaningful conviction. The Guardian and BBC are counting on it going to trial here. They've already effectively exonerated her. The hypocrisy is incredible but then again, it's the Guardian... You wouldn't be surprised.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 26, 2021 16:49:42 GMT
The Guardian is now 4 articles deep on the matter. You can tell that they are absolutely seething... Which probably means it's the correct decision. A few weeks ago, I argued the case for the WhatsApp terrorist, the 15 year old who was being released. He is rightly being given a second chance at life. Shamima Begum is rightly being denied that chance. She not only crossed the line from simply aligning herself with certain beliefs to flying out to Syria, she also actively participated in the atrocities that took place. She will never talk about what she did, but there are enough people who seem happy to talk about her involvement. The Guardian and the BBC are keen to whitewash this and merely put this down to human trafficking. Blame the big bad human traffickers.... No. She wasn't sent over in the back of a shipping container to work in a car wash while sucking dick in the evening to pay off her debt. She willingly flew on a commercial flight to Turkey with her two pals, crossed over into Syria, and in her own words absolutely loved it at first. It was only when it all went tits up and she was left up shit creek without a paddle, that she had an unexpected change of heart and decided she fancied a bit of Primark and Debenhams. She clearly bought into the utopia that was offered to her. She does not deserve a second chance. The only issue is that she remains our shit to clean up. She was born in England. It's not just the Guardian and BBC who have a view on this! These are senior Tories... www.telegraph.co.uk/news/2021/02/25/blocking-shamima-begums-return-will-terrorist-threat-against/I can't read the article due to the pay wall, but I'd like to read the reasoning behind such opinions... As if terrorists would be somehow less frosty by such a wonderful gesture of goodwill? These are terrorists. Lets not pretend they have any kind of a conscience. They bomb busses and the tube...
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Feb 26, 2021 16:50:49 GMT
Shamima Begum was a child groomed by radicals.
She is British.
What has happened today should frighten us all.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 26, 2021 16:55:20 GMT
Shamima Begum was a child groomed by radicals. She is British. What has happened today should frighten us all. She was a child by a few months, almost 16. I agree, the fact she is British is concerning. She is an exported product of our country and we have a duty to ensure she isn't a roaming threat to other nations. I don't see how we have any duty to Miss Begum though. She effectively renounced her citizenship.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 26, 2021 17:04:14 GMT
Shamima Begum was a child groomed by radicals. She is British. What has happened today should frighten us all. She was a child by a few months, almost 16. I agree, the fact she is British is concerning. She is an exported product of our country and we have a duty to ensure she isn't a roaming threat to other nations. I don't see how we have any duty to Miss Begum though. She effectively renounced her citizenship. Based on both of those statements the voting age should not be lowered to 16. Either a child or not
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Post by Rednwhitenblue on Feb 26, 2021 17:06:50 GMT
I can't read the article due to the pay wall, but I'd like to read the reasoning behind such opinions... As if terrorists would be somehow less frosty by such a wonderful gesture of goodwill? These are terrorists. Lets not pretend they have any kind of a conscience. They bomb busses and the tube... Here you go: Blocking Shamima Begum's return will further terrorist threat against UK, senior Tories warn MPs say government must not 'wash its hands' of the 40 Britons detained in camps abroad ahead of Supreme Court judgement tomorrow The Supreme Court will rule tomorrow on whether Shamima Begum should be allowed back into the UK to challenge the removal of her British citizenship Refusing to repatriate Shamima Begum and other British Isil brides and families will further the terrorist threat against the UK, senior Tories have warned. In a letter to Foreign Secretary Dominic Raab and Home Secretary Priti Patel, the four MPs â including three former ministers â said Britain should not âwash its handsâ of the 40 Britons detained in camps for Isil fighters, jihadi brides and their children in northern Syria. The four â Andrew Mitchell, David Davis, Tom Tugendhat and Tobias Ellwood â warned that failure to take responsibility for them like other nations including the US under President Joe Biden would ânecessarily create even more security risks for the UK in the futureâ. Their warning comes on the eve of tomorrow's Supreme Court judgement on whether Begum, who left London as a schoolgirl to join Isil in 2015, should be allowed back into the UK to challenge the removal of her British citizenship. Writing exclusively online for The Telegraph, Mr Mitchell, former international development secretary, said that irrespective of the judgement, leaving Begum, pictured below, and other Britons âswilling around in ungoverned spaceâ had the potential to backfire not only in the region but on the streets of Britain. âIf they are judged to be a risk, then all the more reason why they should be returned to Britain where they can be processed by the British criminal justice system,â said Mr Mitchell. âThere are a host of potentially applicable offences on the statute book, such as âpreparation of terrorist actsâ under Section 5 of the Terrorism Act 2006, which can carry a life sentence. âThe Director of Public Prosecutions has made crystal clear Britons returning from Syria can be prosecuted, saying he expects this to happen âin the vast majority of cases.â Any returning prisoner who committed crimes in Syria will face British justice. âOur justice system is also best placed to deal with the deep complexities of these cases. Many of the people involved travelled to Syria as teenagers, after being groomed online or trafficked by organised Isis gangs. These are challenging issues which must be considered.â Begumâs British citizenship was revoked on national security grounds after she was found in a Syrian refugee camp in February 2019. Begum, who fled the UK to join Isil aged 15 and is now 21, is seeking to return to the UK to challenge this decision. The court of appeal ruled last July the only way she could have a âfair and effectiveâ appeal was to return to the UK, but this was challenged in November by the Home Office which said it would create âsignificant national security risksâ and expose the public to âan increased risk of terrorismâ. The Supreme Court will rule today if she should be granted leave to return to the UK and whether her appeal will be allowed if she is not allowed back. In their letter, the MPs said failure to bring the Britons back would âabdicate our duty as a responsible nationâ and warned that British inaction had already caused the US to express âextraordinary frustration.â The US, which recently repatriated 28 Americans, had even offered the UK operational support, they said. âThe camps in north-east Syria are a shared security challenge and we cannot expect our allies to do the hard work for us,â they added. Maya Foa, director of Reprieve, a human rights charity, said: âAbandoning British women and children in these camps is a cowardly abdication of responsibility, and out of step with our alliesâ efforts to repatriate their nationals.â There is concern in government that repatriation of the Britons would still provide security services and counter-terrorism police with a major problem in how to keep them under control. Round the clock surveillance is prohibitively expensive and requires huge manpower that would have to be diverted from other terror cells currently being watched.
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