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Post by crapslinger on Feb 24, 2021 22:17:01 GMT
Should teachers be banned for smacking children too harsh or acceptable in society today, from MSM if it was my child I would have smacked him back.
A PE teacher has been banned from the profession after smacking a four-year-old boy on the knees when he threw a tantrum.
Ian Webber, 56, struck the youngster during an after-school football club after carrying him across a sports hall by the shoulders in May 2018.
He warned the boy: 'If you kick me again, I'll smack you', before slapping him twice on the knees at a school in Sutton Coldfield, West Midlands.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 24, 2021 22:22:23 GMT
No teacher has the right to smack a child especially 4 years old
It’s assault
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Post by metalhead on Feb 24, 2021 22:22:43 GMT
4 years old...
Rightly sacked
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Post by Boothen on Feb 24, 2021 22:45:45 GMT
A smack on the legs? Jesus wept, half the teachers from back in my school days would be serving life if today's rules were around back then.
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Post by salopstick on Feb 24, 2021 22:47:15 GMT
A smack on the legs? Jesus wept, half the teachers from back in my school days would be serving life if today's rules were around back then. Agreed. Times and law changes
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Post by innocentbystander on Feb 24, 2021 23:17:13 GMT
Our RE teacher, a reverend, was nick named Slasher. We'd wind him up throughout the lesson with stupid/inane/heretical questions and comments until he finally exploded and mounted a full on assault on one unlucky (but probably deserving) class member. It was a sort of Reverend Roulette. We could have put bets on it.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 24, 2021 23:26:03 GMT
4 years old... Rightly sacked Why would it take 3 years to ban him makes no sense, if that was my child I would have acted as any normal parent starting with rearranging his face, FFS sake the child is little more than a baby I would have done my upmost to ensure he got jail time.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 24, 2021 23:30:52 GMT
A smack on the legs? Jesus wept, half the teachers from back in my school days would be serving life if today's rules were around back then. Seems this teacher had previous. Sounds a right nasty piece of work not acceptable today mate.
Webber had been issued with a warning prior to assaulting the boy after flicking a child's throat in 2016 but his 'conduct towards young children had become worse'
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Post by metalhead on Feb 25, 2021 7:54:17 GMT
4 years old... Rightly sacked Why would it take 3 years to ban him makes no sense, if that was my child I would have acted as any normal parent starting with rearranging his face, FFS sake the child is little more than a baby I would have done my upmost to ensure he got jail time. Because it takes time to investigate and it'll go through various layers of disciplinary. I suspect that he will have been suspended for some part of that although maybe not at all of it.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 8:00:08 GMT
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 25, 2021 8:01:57 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked.
People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked.
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Post by countofmontecristo on Feb 25, 2021 8:16:46 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. Mass murderers?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 8:30:45 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. Mass murderers? PE Teachers !
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 8:33:11 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. If my mother hadn't have caved my face in with an old wooden scholl sandal, I'd have probably been better looking for starters
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 8:38:49 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. He had previous but only got a conditional discharge at court despite been found guilty, how does that work very strange.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 25, 2021 8:52:03 GMT
Unfathomable that he'd even consider any physical contact in any way.
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Post by metalhead on Feb 25, 2021 9:54:54 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. Fair logic. I don't think it's unreasonable to say they turned out fine though. Some kids will turn out fine with physical punishment. Some don't though. There are links between violence in childhood and domestic violence in adult life.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 10:22:17 GMT
Unfathomable that he'd even consider any physical contact in any way. Warned previously for using force against a child, I wonder how many times he has got away with assaulting kids before, in a position of trust surely considering his past record a custodial sentence should have been forthcoming, no mention of a non molestation order served on him.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 25, 2021 10:28:00 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. Mass murderers? If you’re smacking a child you’re making them afraid to display such behaviours in the presence of the person/people that smack them.This can also lead to all sorts of psychological issues which is well documented in literature and I’ve got first hand experience of this myself. You simply do not have to smack children to get them to change their behaviour.
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Post by Rick Grimes on Feb 25, 2021 10:48:36 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. Fair logic. I don't think it's unreasonable to say they turned out fine though. Some kids will turn out fine with physical punishment. Some don't though. There are links between violence in childhood and domestic violence in adult life. It’s complex isn’t it, people can lead relatively normal lives but still be deeply affected by their childhood which frames their whole life. Feelings of self worth and the ability to form and maintain relationships are influenced by childhood and smacking is a sure fire way to make a child feel unsecure and unloved, even if it is coming from a place of love from the parents perspective.
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 25, 2021 11:36:09 GMT
I used to get either a chalk board rubber (the ones with wooden edges) thrown at me or a “gentle tap” on the head with a cricket bat at Longton High. Might explain a few things.😂😂
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 25, 2021 11:39:02 GMT
We live in a very different world now compared to the 50's and 60's and the guy got what he deserved for assaulting a 4 year old, particularly if he had previously been warned. I have no time for the "it never did me any harm" brigade. The truth is that it probably did.
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Post by cerebralstokie on Feb 25, 2021 12:23:29 GMT
I used to get either a chalk board rubber (the ones with wooden edges) thrown at me or a “gentle tap” on the head with a cricket bat at Longton High. Might explain a few things.😂😂 Harry Cyples or Bill Jolley? (or both?)
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 12:30:19 GMT
We live in a very different world now compared to the 50's and 60's and the guy got what he deserved for assaulting a 4 year old, particularly if he had previously been warned. I have no time for the "it never did me any harm" brigade. The truth is that it probably did. I can not understand how he got off with a slapped wrist at trial, a teacher has to be a custodial sentence assaulting a 4 year old child especially when he has previous.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 25, 2021 12:32:24 GMT
I used to get either a chalk board rubber (the ones with wooden edges) thrown at me or a “gentle tap” on the head with a cricket bat at Longton High. Might explain a few things.😂😂 Sounds like Blurton High, maybe it was part of Teacher Training back in those days 🤣
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Post by xchpotter on Feb 25, 2021 13:14:55 GMT
I used to get either a chalk board rubber (the ones with wooden edges) thrown at me or a “gentle tap” on the head with a cricket bat at Longton High. Might explain a few things.😂😂 Harry Cyples or Bill Jolley? (or both?) Think one was either McPherson or John, not 100%, but as bad as it sounds I can say that I never saw it as being over the top or abusive. It was almost like a gentle tap just to put me back in my place and I never complained or thought it was out of order.
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Post by mattyd2 on Feb 25, 2021 13:22:36 GMT
A smack on the legs? Jesus wept, half the teachers from back in my school days would be serving life if today's rules were around back then. Seems this teacher had previous. Sounds a right nasty piece of work not acceptable today mate.
Webber had been issued with a warning prior to assaulting the boy after flicking a child's throat in 2016 but his 'conduct towards young children had become worse'
Do you remember Lloyd at Moorside. He had a kid bend over and kicked a football right at his ass, in winter, because he wouldn't pass the ball to anyone. Then there was Mr Wasim...He whacked me round the head once. The Chemistry Teacher, forget his name, he was a psyco. And the French teacher, at the bottom of the first staircase in the new ( ish ) block, he pinned me up against the wall cuz I was flicking his lights on and off. Sweetie Hall, he was another nasty twat. And the senile old gardening teacher Fuller ( maybe Fullerton ) another nut job. The worst though was Mrs Bird. I always left her lessons with a nasty swelling...
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Post by mattyd2 on Feb 25, 2021 13:23:51 GMT
Harry Cyples or Bill Jolley? (or both?) Think one was either McPherson or John, not 100%, but as bad as it sounds I can say that I never saw it as being over the top or abusive. It was almost like a gentle tap just to put me back in my place and I never complained or thought it was out of order. I think Mr John also taught at Moorside. He had a garage and a tyre place in Fenton just of King Street when he packed in teaching.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Feb 25, 2021 14:05:09 GMT
Smacking kids doesn’t work it’s absolutely right for the teacher to be sacked. People who say they were smacked and turned out just fine don’t convince me either. They don’t know the alternative, so whilst they may think they turned out fine, how would they have turned out if they weren’t smacked. I agree smacking by teachers just cannot be tolerated in this day and age. However I’d just like to share my experiences of corporal punishment at school....at Ellison Street Primary School Mr Fallows was notorious for smacking you round the back of the head ensuring that his ring made contact ....ouch it fucking hurt. Then there was Mr Landon who kept his cane on his desk and you would receive 5 across the palm for any misdemeanour in his class. Mr Fincham would lead you to the front of the class by the ear for a humliation session. On to Wolstanton Grammer if you received 3 detentions in any term you had to go line up outside the Headmasters(The Beak as he was known) office for the cane across your backside. To prevent pain you would stick an exercise book down your pants for protection. Mr Bedding was deadly at 10m with the wooden chalk eraser and Lank Holland, PE Teacher, took great delight smacking you round the backside with a plimsole if you forgot you PE gear or it wasn’t clean. I personally do not consider it affected me anyway in later life but it kept you the straight and narrow at school for sure.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 25, 2021 14:15:13 GMT
Think one was either McPherson or John, not 100%, but as bad as it sounds I can say that I never saw it as being over the top or abusive. It was almost like a gentle tap just to put me back in my place and I never complained or thought it was out of order. I think Mr John also taught at Moorside. He had a garage and a tyre place in Fenton just of King Street when he packed in teaching. He did indeed that wig was funny as fcuk.
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