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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 20, 2021 21:46:23 GMT
I'm very glad that we made Luton look like a bunch of chumps today. However, I'm going to say something that will be unpopular.
Whether our players like it or not, Nathan Jones turned up today having steered a Luton side that spent most of last season rooted to the bottom of the table into a safe midtable position. He did a miracle last year to keep them up and has managed to get them punching above their weight this season despite spending a sum total of £0. Instead of ridiculing him on Twitter, perhaps our players would do better to reflect on why the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the Championship was seemingly far less capable of performing for him than a bunch of third division players. When well-paid players and their parents happily criticise the manager and his tactics to random passers by (see numerous past Oatcake threads), Nick Powell behaves as he did away at Luton and our current players start up the social media fun and games, it doesn't take long to put together a picture that our superstars simply didn't want to play for what they perceived to be a third division manager.
Having said all of that, I've no idea how Luton can be doing as well as they are. They were hopelessly disorganised and managed to leave enormous spaces all over the pitch. They were lucky that we only scored three.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Feb 20, 2021 21:51:06 GMT
I'm very glad that we made Luton look like a bunch of chumps today. However, I'm going to say something that will be unpopular. Whether our players like it or not, Nathan Jones turned up today having steered a Luton side that spent most of last season rooted to the bottom of the table into a safe midtable position. He did a miracle last year to keep them up and has managed to get them punching above their weight this season despite spending a sum total of £0. Instead of ridiculing him on Twitter, perhaps our players would do better to reflect on why the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the Championship was seemingly far less capable of performing for him than a bunch of third division players. When well-paid players and their parents happily criticise the manager and his tactics to random passers by (see numerous past Oatcake threads), Nick Powell behaves as he did away at Luton and our current players start up the social media fun and games, it doesn't take long to put together a picture that our superstars simply didn't want to play for what they perceived to be a third division manager. Having said all of that, I've no idea how Luton can be doing as well as they are. They were hopelessly disorganised and managed to leave enormous spaces all over the pitch. They were lucky that we only scored three. Possibly, but it also suggests he did nothing to command their respect as well. It’s a two-way street. MON seems to have been able to do it. It’s feasible the chest beating and the acting after every rare victory as if you were the sole architect and are, after all, the second coming of Rinus Michels, doesn’t necessarily do a lot for morale. |
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Post by bayernoatcake on Feb 20, 2021 21:53:22 GMT
I've never understood the vitriol towards him but my god, watching that interview, I don't miss hearing that erratic voice post-three-nil loss. He’s a massive massive cunt. |
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Post by marcofstoke on Feb 20, 2021 21:53:39 GMT
I went Longton High School class of 77 , I’m a thicko 😉 😂😂😂👍🏻 |
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Feb 20, 2021 22:07:18 GMT
I'm very glad that we made Luton look like a bunch of chumps today. However, I'm going to say something that will be unpopular. Whether our players like it or not, Nathan Jones turned up today having steered a Luton side that spent most of last season rooted to the bottom of the table into a safe midtable position. He did a miracle last year to keep them up and has managed to get them punching above their weight this season despite spending a sum total of £0. Instead of ridiculing him on Twitter, perhaps our players would do better to reflect on why the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the Championship was seemingly far less capable of performing for him than a bunch of third division players. When well-paid players and their parents happily criticise the manager and his tactics to random passers by (see numerous past Oatcake threads), Nick Powell behaves as he did away at Luton and our current players start up the social media fun and games, it doesn't take long to put together a picture that our superstars simply didn't want to play for what they perceived to be a third division manager. Having said all of that, I've no idea how Luton can be doing as well as they are. They were hopelessly disorganised and managed to leave enormous spaces all over the pitch. They were lucky that we only scored three. I think you may have jumped to one or two conclusions there. We have no idea what it's like to work for the manager day to day really, the only real indication is good results and happy players. Whilst it isn't exactly professional, their tweets would suggest Jones really rubbed them up the wrong way. I don't doubt for a second Nathan Jones has done and is doing a good job for Luton but the truth is, I couldn't give a shit about Luton. He was disastrous for Stoke. |
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Post by andystokey on Feb 20, 2021 22:08:29 GMT
I've never understood the vitriol towards him but my god, watching that interview, I don't miss hearing that erratic voice post-three-nil loss. He’s a massive massive cunt. He's fucking either totally insane or on cocaine. He reminds me of some crazy drunk bloke you meet at 11pm on a Friday. He'll blow an o ring one day. Can you imagine how it went down having motivational messages from Mad Nath stuck if you were Nick Powell? 🙄 |
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Post by followyoudown on Feb 20, 2021 22:14:02 GMT
I've never understood the vitriol towards him but my god, watching that interview, I don't miss hearing that erratic voice post-three-nil loss. He’s a massive massive cunt. Thats harsh...... he's only 5ft 7 |
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Post by Gary Hackett on Feb 20, 2021 22:39:07 GMT
Complete fucking fraudster In what way, he's done a fantasic job at Luton, we were just to much of a mess for him. He's too much of a mess for himself. He's a total lunatic. |
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Post by Olgrligm on Feb 20, 2021 22:41:49 GMT
I'm very glad that we made Luton look like a bunch of chumps today. However, I'm going to say something that will be unpopular. Whether our players like it or not, Nathan Jones turned up today having steered a Luton side that spent most of last season rooted to the bottom of the table into a safe midtable position. He did a miracle last year to keep them up and has managed to get them punching above their weight this season despite spending a sum total of £0. Instead of ridiculing him on Twitter, perhaps our players would do better to reflect on why the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the Championship was seemingly far less capable of performing for him than a bunch of third division players. When well-paid players and their parents happily criticise the manager and his tactics to random passers by (see numerous past Oatcake threads), Nick Powell behaves as he did away at Luton and our current players start up the social media fun and games, it doesn't take long to put together a picture that our superstars simply didn't want to play for what they perceived to be a third division manager. Having said all of that, I've no idea how Luton can be doing as well as they are. They were hopelessly disorganised and managed to leave enormous spaces all over the pitch. They were lucky that we only scored three. Possibly, but it also suggests he did nothing to command their respect as well. It’s a two-way street. MON seems to have been able to do it. It’s feasible the chest beating and the acting after every rare victory as if you were the sole architect and are, after all, the second coming of Rinus Michels, doesn’t necessarily do a lot for morale. I think you may have jumped to one or two massive conclusions there. We have no idea what it's like to work for the manager day to day really, the only real indication is good results and happy players. Whilst it isn't exactly professional, their tweets would suggest Jones really rubbed them up the wrong way. I don't doubt for a second Nathan Jones has done and is doing a good job for Luton but the truth is, I couldn't give a shit about Luton. He was disastrous for Stoke. Yep, it's a two-way street and it's obviously also a failure of leadership to an extent if you can't get people to buy into your methods. I've just got so little time for our players crowing about how clever they are in beating a former manager after watching two and a half seasons of the most expensive squad in the history of the second tier of English football swanning about a pitch deciding whether or not their opponents are worthy of them bothering to turn up. It's high time that they shouldered a bit of responsibility. There were plenty of other failures, of course. I wonder how different things might have been had we been able to shift out the big earners that we tried to move on, or if our transfer shortlist was more creative than 'James Justin, and failing that, Stephen Ward'. Alan Ball was one of our club's worst ever managers, if not the worst. He was a terrible manager wherever he went. Nathan Jones was atrocious with us, but was an outstanding manager at Luton before he joined us and is working wonders there now. It can't all be the manager. |
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Post by spiderpuss on Feb 21, 2021 0:40:01 GMT
Considering what he was given at Stoke, pound for pound he's our worst manager. An odd character that does well at one club only.
I don't think players taking the urine comes across particularly well either -its funny for 5 mins, but tomorrow they'll regret it . As people have mentioned they should be a bit more professional. Footballers and twitter is a bad thing, they rarely make themselves look anything other than bellends.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 1:02:14 GMT
Considering what he was given at Stoke, pound for pound he's our worst manager. An odd character that does well at one club only. I don't think players taking the urine comes across particularly well either -its funny for 5 mins, but tomorrow they'll regret it . As people have mentioned they should be a bit more professional. Footballers and twitter is a bad thing, they rarely make themselves look anything other than bellends. Personally would like to see clubs tell players to stay off this Tweetering , Bookface and similar nonsense. |
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Post by bgreen13 on Feb 21, 2021 1:02:30 GMT
Absolute nutjob.
I'm seriously concerned for his mental health.
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Post by markytcd on Feb 21, 2021 1:51:04 GMT
Says it all about this utter clown that we hardly ever beat our ex managers. We've played that melt twice, smashed them both times scoring five goals and they've barely troubled the goalkeeper. Complete idiot This about sums it up for me |
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Post by callas12 on Feb 21, 2021 2:57:23 GMT
No-ones mentioned Tom Ince to my knowledge throughout the matchday.
Wonder if he gave Jones duff information about our current tactical approach or did Ince inadvertently feed some Luton info back to his Stoke team mates or management to give us the upper hand?
Be interesting to know what his thoughts were today, happy with a pretty convincing Stoke victory, or was he gutted for his current clubs poor showing at the hands of his parent club?! 🤔🤔
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Post by TinkerT on Feb 21, 2021 7:07:08 GMT
No-ones mentioned Tom Ince to my knowledge throughout the matchday. Wonder if he gave Jones duff information about our current tactical approach or did Ince inadvertently feed some Luton info back to his Stoke team mates or management to give us the upper hand? Be interesting to know what his thoughts were today, happy with a pretty convincing Stoke victory, or was he gutted for his current clubs poor showing at the hands of his parent club?! 🤔🤔 Tom ince doesn't give two flying fucks about anything apart from number one. He was probably happy sitting at home playing on his game boy whilst daddy cooked him up some fish and chips, useless twat. |
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Post by Deleted on Feb 21, 2021 7:52:24 GMT
What did our players say on Twitter?
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Post by crowey on Feb 21, 2021 7:55:36 GMT
No-ones mentioned Tom Ince to my knowledge throughout the matchday. Wonder if he gave Jones duff information about our current tactical approach or did Ince inadvertently feed some Luton info back to his Stoke team mates or management to give us the upper hand? Be interesting to know what his thoughts were today, happy with a pretty convincing Stoke victory, or was he gutted for his current clubs poor showing at the hands of his parent club?! 🤔🤔 .... agent Sonko mark two |
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Post by The battheader chronicles on Feb 21, 2021 8:26:54 GMT
What did our players say on Twitter? Thank you Nathan Jones for your hard work and dedication to stoke city football club you were the best manager we worked under. Na I’m just messing with you they basically all just told him to piss off 😂😂 |
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Post by J-Roar on Feb 21, 2021 9:06:33 GMT
No-ones mentioned Tom Ince to my knowledge throughout the matchday. Wonder if he gave Jones duff information about our current tactical approach or did Ince inadvertently feed some Luton info back to his Stoke team mates or management to give us the upper hand? Be interesting to know what his thoughts were today, happy with a pretty convincing Stoke victory, or was he gutted for his current clubs poor showing at the hands of his parent club?! 🤔🤔 I doubt he knew who either club were playing. |
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 21, 2021 9:14:04 GMT
Considering what he was given at Stoke, pound for pound he's our worst manager. An odd character that does well at one club only. I don't think players taking the urine comes across particularly well either -its funny for 5 mins, but tomorrow they'll regret it . As people have mentioned they should be a bit more professional. Footballers and twitter is a bad thing, they rarely make themselves look anything other than bellends. Most people on twatter, Instagram, Faceless fuck are a bad thing. |
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Post by GeneralFaye on Feb 21, 2021 9:14:53 GMT
No-ones mentioned Tom Ince to my knowledge throughout the matchday. Wonder if he gave Jones duff information about our current tactical approach or did Ince inadvertently feed some Luton info back to his Stoke team mates or management to give us the upper hand? Be interesting to know what his thoughts were today, happy with a pretty convincing Stoke victory, or was he gutted for his current clubs poor showing at the hands of his parent club?! 🤔🤔 Tom ince doesn't give two flying fucks about anything apart from number one. He was probably happy sitting at home playing on his game boy whilst daddy cooked him up some fish and chips, useless twat. This tickled me. |
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Post by dirtygary69 on Feb 21, 2021 9:20:43 GMT
I'm very glad that we made Luton look like a bunch of chumps today. However, I'm going to say something that will be unpopular. Whether our players like it or not, Nathan Jones turned up today having steered a Luton side that spent most of last season rooted to the bottom of the table into a safe midtable position. He did a miracle last year to keep them up and has managed to get them punching above their weight this season despite spending a sum total of £0. Instead of ridiculing him on Twitter, perhaps our players would do better to reflect on why the most expensively assembled squad in the history of the Championship was seemingly far less capable of performing for him than a bunch of third division players. When well-paid players and their parents happily criticise the manager and his tactics to random passers by (see numerous past Oatcake threads), Nick Powell behaves as he did away at Luton and our current players start up the social media fun and games, it doesn't take long to put together a picture that our superstars simply didn't want to play for what they perceived to be a third division manager. Having said all of that, I've no idea how Luton can be doing as well as they are. They were hopelessly disorganised and managed to leave enormous spaces all over the pitch. They were lucky that we only scored three. Nah, especially when those doing the ribbing were those that barely featured under him. He’s clearly an utter bellend who has no clue how to conduct himself. The way he operates leave him open to this sort of stuff. |
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Post by raythesailor on Feb 21, 2021 9:27:07 GMT
Having seen that post match interview I fear for Nathan’s mental health.
That was no normal media interview. Many managers may have similar feelings about their teams performance but would not dream of voicing them so forcefully and publicly.
I would imagine the atmosphere in the Luton changing room will be toxic. Ince must be wondering what he has let himself in for.!
It will be interesting to see how they react for the rest of the season. I would not be surprised to see them go into free fall. ?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 21, 2021 9:41:53 GMT
Having seen that post match interview I fear for Nathan’s mental health. That was no normal media interview. Many managers may have similar feelings about their teams performance but would not dream of voicing them so forcefully and publicly. I would imagine the atmosphere in the Luton changing room will be toxic. Ince must be wondering what he has let himself in for.! It will be interesting to see how they react for the rest of the season. I would not be surprised to see them go into free fall. ? I felt the same about his mental health when he was here, met him at Leek Town my God he's a fcuking mentalist like Frodo on smack, he will end up living in a shop doorway or worse. |
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Post by Goonie on Feb 21, 2021 9:47:26 GMT
It's just such a shame we didn't have a crowd present
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Post by Goonie on Feb 21, 2021 9:52:49 GMT
Get a glass of the good stuff and enjoy 🥃 Oh I hope he goes the "Full Phil Brown" next game and makes them sit in the centre circle while he publicly humiliates them 😀😁 |
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Post by clarkeda on Feb 21, 2021 9:53:31 GMT
Having seen that post match interview I fear for Nathan’s mental health. That was no normal media interview. Many managers may have similar feelings about their teams performance but would not dream of voicing them so forcefully and publicly. I would imagine the atmosphere in the Luton changing room will be toxic. Ince must be wondering what he has let himself in for.! It will be interesting to see how they react for the rest of the season. I would not be surprised to see them go into free fall. ? I wouldn’t look too much into it tbh. I think he’s frustrated, even more so as he’ll have tried extra hard to fire the players up as this is a really important game for NJ but they absolutely flopped for him and they’ll know that publicly or privately. |
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Post by rickyfullerbeer on Feb 21, 2021 14:18:43 GMT
I've never understood the vitriol towards him but my god, watching that interview, I don't miss hearing that erratic voice post-three-nil loss. He’s a massive massive cunt. I've never met him. I doubt you have either. Granted he won't have the oracle-like footballing knowledge that you possess but one should be so lucky. |
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Post by chigstoke on Feb 21, 2021 14:33:00 GMT
No-ones mentioned Tom Ince to my knowledge throughout the matchday. Wonder if he gave Jones duff information about our current tactical approach or did Ince inadvertently feed some Luton info back to his Stoke team mates or management to give us the upper hand? Be interesting to know what his thoughts were today, happy with a pretty convincing Stoke victory, or was he gutted for his current clubs poor showing at the hands of his parent club?! 🤔🤔 Tom ince doesn't give two flying fucks about anything apart from number one. He was probably happy sitting at home playing on his game boy whilst daddy cooked him up some fish and chips, useless twat. I had Ince down more as a turkey dinosaurs sort of bloke |
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Post by skip on Feb 21, 2021 14:46:46 GMT
Christ, that post match interview. I managed to get half way and had to switch it off. He's not unwell, he's just prone to hugely over compensating for his lack of leadership.
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