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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jan 24, 2021 14:19:30 GMT
The Coates obsession with having a British manager got us relegated, I heard they tried to get Rowett and he turned us down before they went for flores , instead of going for the top European manager that wanted the job they went for the average British manager. this is tru mate So who is this European manager. Stop tickling our balls and just tell us?! š
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 24, 2021 14:27:03 GMT
Paul Lambert was a complete justification of Arnoutovic's much vilified assessment of the thought process prevalent in the hierarchy at Stoke.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 24, 2021 14:38:39 GMT
Paul Lambert was a complete justification of Arnoutovic's much vilified assessment of the thought process prevalent in the hierarchy at Stoke. It was, but he was only after a higher salary however he dressed it up.....
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2021 14:39:29 GMT
Paul Lambert was a complete justification of Arnoutovic's much vilified assessment of the thought process prevalent in the hierarchy at Stoke. That wasnāt why he left though whatever he claimed.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 14:51:41 GMT
The rumour was at the time that when Quique bottled it and turned us down, another top European manager approached us . . . and we decided Paul Lambert was the best option. Craziness. Not a bad man but even he must've been shocked when he got the phone call saying he got the job. Suicidal appointment and we would've been better placed with Hughes. What do you mean another top European? QSF was undoubtedly European...but never top.
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Post by greenman on Jan 24, 2021 16:15:55 GMT
Boskamp?
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jan 24, 2021 16:19:01 GMT
The rumour was at the time that when Quique bottled it and turned us down, another top European manager approached us . . . and we decided Paul Lambert was the best option. Craziness. Not a bad man but even he must've been shocked when he got the phone call saying he got the job. Suicidal appointment and we would've been better placed with Hughes. What do you mean another top European? QSF was undoubtedly European...but never top. He was the best option for anyone in the process with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo , QSF clearly wasnāt and perhaps the other one wasnāt either , there a reason why a club sitting 31st In the world in wealth , with known billionaire supportive owners , 10 years in the premier league and a reasonable chance of survival given the players in the squadat the time can only attract Paul Lambert and that is the core of the issue exactly why couldnāt we attract a decent manager
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 24, 2021 16:19:24 GMT
I'm convinced we would have stopped up if we had kept Hughes until the end of the season. Absolutely, Lambert was a complete cluster fuck of an appointment. No worse than Nathan Jones
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Post by franklin on Jan 24, 2021 16:25:34 GMT
Absolutely, Lambert was a complete cluster fuck of an appointment. No worse than Nathan Jones True but I didn't say it was the only one š
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 24, 2021 16:26:26 GMT
Probably impossible at the time but hindsight suggests keeping Lambert after relegation wouldn't have been the worst idea for a board who really haven't a clue.
The appointment of Rowett was one of the worst in SCFC history. Worse than Nutty Nath. Rowett is a complete wanker who has wasted over Ā£50million on bang average footballers. I really do detest the cunt.
MoN inherited a shit sandwich... with a side order of shite.
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Post by wakeypotter on Jan 24, 2021 16:32:00 GMT
Good appointment or bad appointment I donāt share the disdain for him He was the one who took the dressing room on Also if you look at key moments I donāt blame lambert. He couldnāt help but land throwing one in his own net Adam to miss a pen and a follow up And a late equaliser at West Ham. Those 3 had not happened we would have stayed up
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 16:33:19 GMT
What do you mean another top European? QSF was undoubtedly European...but never top. He was the best option for anyone in the process with a vested interest in maintaining the status quo , QSF clearly wasnāt and perhaps the other one wasnāt either , there a reason why a club sitting 31st In the world in wealth , with known billionaire supportive owners , 10 years in the premier league and a reasonable chance of survival given the players in the squadat the time can only attract Paul Lambert and that is the core of the issue exactly why couldnāt we attract a decent manager I was actually pleased when his name came up, because it would have allowed the club to move forward by adapting a more international profile and style, but, his foul play when dropping out in the manner that he did turned me completely off him. There would still have been many, not just one other, international coaches who would have loved a stab at the PL or even the Championship. Looking at who's managing at the moment, you have to say that Thomas Frank or Daniel Farke could have been our manager if the board had been a little more brave.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 24, 2021 16:58:40 GMT
Probably impossible at the time but hindsight suggests keeping Lambert after relegation wouldn't have been the worst idea for a board who really haven't a clue. The appointment of Rowett was one of the worst in SCFC history. Worse than Nutty Nath. Rowett is a complete wanker who has wasted over Ā£50million on bang average footballers. I really do detest the cunt. MoN inherited a shit sandwich... with a side order of shite. Lambert would have played some of the youngsters and Iām not convinced heād have gone for they type of player Rowett did (or the expense) so in that respect weād have probably been better off keeping him.....
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Post by thebasfordhedgehog on Jan 24, 2021 17:06:48 GMT
Talks a good game, but done nothing of note since his Norwich days. I blame him just as much as Hughes for our relegation.
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Post by theonlooker on Jan 24, 2021 17:09:48 GMT
Probably impossible at the time but hindsight suggests keeping Lambert after relegation wouldn't have been the worst idea for a board who really haven't a clue. The appointment of Rowett was one of the worst in SCFC history. Worse than Nutty Nath. Rowett is a complete wanker who has wasted over Ā£50million on bang average footballers. I really do detest the cunt. MoN inherited a shit sandwich... with a side order of shite. I really can't believe the amount of stick Rowett gets away with, along with the idiots that appointed him and let him run around on a Championship trolley dash. What on earth possessed them?
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Post by kustokie on Jan 24, 2021 17:53:41 GMT
The fact is Hughes had to go (and ideally should have gone earlier) because he had lost interest and consequently the dressing room. The delay in firing him was likely because they couldnāt find a replacement and Lambert was the best available that also wanted the job.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2021 18:06:45 GMT
The fact is Hughes had to go (and ideally should have gone earlier) because he had lost interest and consequently the dressing room. The delay in firing him was likely because they couldnāt find a replacement and Lambert was the best available that also wanted the job. Thatās the issue though, we were fishing in the shallowest of pools, deliberately limiting ourselves to a certain type of manager. Never in a million years would we find a HassenhĆ¼tll.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Jan 24, 2021 18:09:42 GMT
Probably impossible at the time but hindsight suggests keeping Lambert after relegation wouldn't have been the worst idea for a board who really haven't a clue. The appointment of Rowett was one of the worst in SCFC history. Worse than Nutty Nath. Rowett is a complete wanker who has wasted over Ā£50million on bang average footballers. I really do detest the cunt. MoN inherited a shit sandwich... with a side order of shite. I really can't believe the amount of stick Rowett gets away with, along with the idiots that appointed him and let him run around on a Championship trolley dash. What on earth possessed them? Most people on here were creaming their pants when Rowett was appointed. Sticking with Lambert would have been a much better option.
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Jan 24, 2021 18:53:50 GMT
Doing a great job at Ipswich in League 1 (not !!) It will remain forever a moment I will never forget (too young for President Kennedy's assassination but remember where I was when Lady Diana died) when I heard we had appointed him and quite simply could not believe how shite a decision it was. I remain convinced that we could have stayed up with the right appointment and that Lambert is up there with Chic Bates as one of the worst 'in the moment' managerial decisions the club has ever made. He wasn't a million miles away from being up there with Chris Kamara, nevermind Chic Bates!!!
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Post by followyoudown on Jan 24, 2021 19:03:18 GMT
He wasn't at fault for our downfall but another mananger would have kept us up. If he managed to keep us up he wouldn't have lasted much longer. I think we massively undersold ourselves and if we reached out properly could have ended up with a decent manager. Another or did you mean Any other
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2021 19:34:13 GMT
hughes sent us down. coates should f got europaen manager and played 442 You want a foreign manager but the ultimate British formation?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2021 19:37:19 GMT
Christ we should not have kept Lambert.
He was a massively shit manager and it should have been an easy job to keep us up. He failed massively. Heās there with Jones and Kamara as being the worst of the worst.
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Post by iglugluk on Jan 24, 2021 19:42:29 GMT
Paul Lambert was a complete justification of Arnoutovic's much vilified assessment of the thought process prevalent in the hierarchy at Stoke. It was, but he was only after a higher salary however he dressed it up..... Nope, I agree he was being greedy but his criticism still proved him to be correct and rather than a knee jerk reaction around pathetic 'ambition' claim videos his warning would have been better if heeded. Instead it produced a defensive reaction from those concerned and was seemingly disregarded. Oh well..water under the bridge now
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Post by neckender78 on Jan 24, 2021 21:42:00 GMT
Probably impossible at the time but hindsight suggests keeping Lambert after relegation wouldn't have been the worst idea for a board who really haven't a clue. The appointment of Rowett was one of the worst in SCFC history. Worse than Nutty Nath. Rowett is a complete wanker who has wasted over Ā£50million on bang average footballers. I really do detest the cunt. MoN inherited a shit sandwich... with a side order of shite. I really can't believe the amount of stick Rowett gets away with, along with the idiots that appointed him and let him run around on a Championship trolley dash. What on earth possessed them? Not saying we should of kept Lambert but I never wanted Rowett, it's one of the worst management appointments we have made. He had a good reputation in the game for achieving very little. A man who wanted play 433 and the front 3 in his mind that would score and create goals to get us back up Afobe, Mince and McLean and he was allowed to bring them in on big contracts at near 30m in transfer fees. Just that sink in, MON is being strangled by the unbelievablely shit transfer dealings of his predecessors
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Post by mattythestokie on Jan 24, 2021 22:34:28 GMT
Good appointment or bad appointment I donāt share the disdain for him He was the one who took the dressing room on I remember not long ago, Charlie Adam was reminiscing and almost mocking the fact that Lambert was showing motivational videos to try and get the Stoke players up for games, whilst saying he wasnāt really paying attention to them. It has left a pretty sad image of the final premier league weeks of a manager trying desperately to get his players up for the fight and a bunch of over payed players laughing at the idea to try something to get out of the shit we were in.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 24, 2021 23:17:31 GMT
I'll admit that I finally renewed my season ticket on the day Rowett was appointed.
Bought into the 'knows the division' shite.
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Post by Pugsley on Jan 24, 2021 23:29:56 GMT
Good appointment or bad appointment I donāt share the disdain for him He was the one who took the dressing room on You don't take a dressing room on when you're in a relegation dogfight. You need EVERYONE on side.
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Post by arniehudson on Jan 25, 2021 0:27:53 GMT
Lambert, Rowett and Jones were all appointed as a result of Coates obsession with projecting Stoke as a meat n potatoes club and city. Donāt want any of those fancy sauces, ingredients or chefs. Maybe he thinks heās pushed the boat out by appointing a manager from overseas in OāNeill, even if itās just the Irish Sea
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 2:10:37 GMT
Lambert, Rowett and Jones were all appointed as a result of Coates obsession with projecting Stoke as a meat n potatoes club and city. Donāt want any of those fancy sauces, ingredients or chefs. Maybe he thinks heās pushed the boat out by appointing a manager from overseas in OāNeill, even if itās just the Irish Sea He'd be from overseas if he was from Eire, but as he's from NI and lives in Scotland he's very much as much a part of the UK as everyone else is or was. He's really bought into that ethos you're spouting.The only non-British player he's ever entertained was one who'd already lived here for 12 years. But playing a Belgian was a complete no-no for him.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 25, 2021 2:12:43 GMT
Good appointment or bad appointment I donāt share the disdain for him He was the one who took the dressing room on You don't take a dressing room on when you're in a relegation dogfight. You need EVERYONE on side. He took on the bad eggs. He had everyone from Butland to Shawcross on his side.
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