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Post by datguy on Jan 24, 2021 12:01:35 GMT
The rumour was at the time that when Quique bottled it and turned us down, another top European manager approached us . . . and we decided Paul Lambert was the best option. Craziness.
Not a bad man but even he must've been shocked when he got the phone call saying he got the job. Suicidal appointment and we would've been better placed with Hughes.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2021 12:01:53 GMT
What was the lap of honour about when we got relegated and people clapping the useless bastard?
It was like a scene from a horror film.
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 24, 2021 12:08:22 GMT
Yep As poor appointment as it was, he tried his best and it just wasnt quite good enough. Had some downright bad luck aswell (Leicester away, Charlies pen against Brighton, Everton at home) I hold no ill will towards him Was Everton at home bad luck? He picked a rotten side including bringing back a patently unfit Adam who duly did an Adam and got himself sent off with an act of wanton recklessness? Fair point, but im fairly sure he wasnt accounting for Charlie doing what he did. Get your point on team selection though
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2021 12:09:31 GMT
Was Everton at home bad luck? He picked a rotten side including bringing back a patently unfit Adam who duly did an Adam and got himself sent off with an act of wanton recklessness? Fair point, but im fairly sure he wasnt accounting for Charlie doing what he did. Get your point on team selection though Surely you had to account for that whenever you picked him? It was always a distinct possibility.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 24, 2021 12:09:50 GMT
We got 13 points from a potential 48 under Lambert, we were still only relegated by 3 points (4 if you count inferior goal difference). To get relegated at the expense of Huddersfield that season was criminal......
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 24, 2021 12:14:51 GMT
Hughes was finished. Good manager for us in his time, but the 4-0 pastings were all too frequent and Arnie single handedly demolishing us at home had to be the end. We would have been dead and buried. It's easy to look back with Rose tinted glasses and forget how bad we were. Lambert's first game was notable as the first time our players broke a sweat in months.
There was a lengthy discussion about it at the time but nobody could convince me that we'd have been any worse off moving heaven and Earth to bring in Pulis on a short term deal for the second half of the season with an enormous seven or eight figure staying up bonus.
I can still remember my immediate reaction when the news filtered through at work. LAMBERT?!
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Post by moon on Jan 24, 2021 12:30:20 GMT
I don't blame Lambert for our relegation, his only signings were N'Diaye (who looked decent at the time) and the Greek LB/LW on loan who didn't feature much from what I recall. We were in dire need of a striker to keep us up.
Lambert isn't a bad manager and he actually wanted to be here (seemingly the only manager in the world who was interested at the time), in hindsight I'd much rather have had him in charge than Rowett or NJ, but we're in a much better place now with MON.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2021 12:37:17 GMT
I don't blame Lambert for our relegation, his only signings were N'Diaye (who looked decent at the time) and the Greek LB/LW on loan who didn't feature much from what I recall. We were in dire need of a striker to keep us up. Lambert isn't a bad manager and he actually wanted to be here (seemingly the only manager in the world who was interested at the time), in hindsight I'd much rather have had him in charge than Rowett or NJ, but we're in a much better place now with MON. He was pretty bad. And a board with any semblance of imagination could’ve found better.
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Post by BristolMick on Jan 24, 2021 12:38:01 GMT
Yeah, bit of an old school Brit. PC would've liked that. Not the type that JC's mate down the pub would have gone for. His interview must've been a worldie! We didn't need someone who did a days worth of Googling. We needed someone who the team would respect and not be able to piss take. Even if it was a short tenure we needed a leader. After the rejection in Spain we just panicked. The biggest mistake was delaying the sacking of MH after the Watford away win. He should have really gone that summer but we dithered. MH was done for at the end of the previous season. That would have been the optimum time to change. Then as you say we should have got rid before we did BUT bizarrely I think we’d have just about stayed up if we’d actually kept him! If not , the relegation would have been on his CV and 100% owned by him. BM
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Post by sheikhmomo on Jan 24, 2021 12:53:13 GMT
You can only hope Mr Proctor got his balls wet
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Post by spitthedog on Jan 24, 2021 12:57:05 GMT
What was the lap of honour about when we got relegated and people clapping the useless bastard? It was like a scene from a horror film. Teams have historically lapped the pitch on the last match of the season saying thanks to the fans whatever the position in the League. It's not a lap of honour is it? It's saying thanks to the fans which is right surely.
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Post by Trouserdog on Jan 24, 2021 12:58:33 GMT
The collective meltdown on here when we appointed Lambert was hilarious looking back on it.
I think 99% of the message board realised that it was an utterly shit appointment made out of desperation. The funny thing is that most people wanted Rowett! 😄
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 24, 2021 13:00:00 GMT
What was the lap of honour about when we got relegated and people clapping the useless bastard? It was like a scene from a horror film. Teams have historically lapped the pitch on the last match of the season saying thanks to the fans whatever the position in the League. It's not a lap of honour is it? It's saying thanks to the fans which is right surely. Missing the point. Booing should have been the nicest thing being heard for it. Venomous horrible abuse should have been spewing from the stands. What happened set the scene to allow the Coates’ to think everything was ok. It was horrible. Fucking applauding the gutless wankers.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 24, 2021 13:07:36 GMT
Hughes was finished. Good manager for us in his time, but the 4-0 pastings were all too frequent and Arnie single handedly demolishing us at home had to be the end. We would have been dead and buried. It's easy to look back with Rose tinted glasses and forget how bad we were. Lambert's first game was notable as the first time our players broke a sweat in months. There was a lengthy discussion about it at the time but nobody could convince me that we'd have been any worse off moving heaven and Earth to bring in Pulis on a short term deal for the second half of the season with an enormous seven or eight figure staying up bonus. I can still remember my immediate reaction when the news filtered through at work. LAMBERT?! He was finished, but would he have managed to eke out another 4 points from the gutless shower? Probably so......
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Post by questionable on Jan 24, 2021 13:11:07 GMT
Still picture the buffoon running up and down the touch line swinging his arms around like a lunatic, I’ll never forgive the Coates family for employing this idiot, didn’t they offer him something like £1,000,000 for keeping us up?
Still recall his shock at Stoke contacting him, along the lines of “ I was at my mums having a brew when they rang me”, I bet he thought all of his Christmases had come at once, shocking appointment but as Hughes said “who else would have the job”, err Lambert obviously.
Where did we pluck this appointment from??
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Post by march4 on Jan 24, 2021 13:13:52 GMT
The collective meltdown on here when we appointed Lambert was hilarious looking back on it. I think 99% of the message board realised that it was an utterly shit appointment made out of desperation. The funny thing is that most people wanted Rowett! 😄 And not TP?
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Post by generationex on Jan 24, 2021 13:16:09 GMT
In the Rogues’ Gallery of wasters and chancers that have crossed the clubs threshold since December 2012, Paul Lambert doesn’t even make the top 20.
We are not where we are today because of him.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 24, 2021 13:19:58 GMT
In the Rogues’ Gallery of wasters and chancers that have crossed the clubs threshold since December 2012, Paul Lambert doesn’t even make the top 20. We are not where we are today because of him. You don’t think another manager could’ve kept us up then, with over three months of the season left?
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Post by dirtygary69 on Jan 24, 2021 13:23:14 GMT
For all the undoubted good our board has done for Stoke, appointing Lambert at that time is one of the most terrible things to have ever happened in football.
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Post by gogogadget on Jan 24, 2021 13:23:17 GMT
Not alive for the first one, In magaluf for Diane In a lift shaft for the terror attack In Hamburg for the lambert announcement
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 13:39:59 GMT
Doing a great job at Ipswich in League 1 (not !!) It will remain forever a moment I will never forget (too young for President Kennedy's assassination but remember where I was when Lady Diana died) when I heard we had appointed him and quite simply could not believe how shite a decision it was. I remain convinced that we could have stayed up with the right appointment and that Lambert is up there with Chic Bates as one of the worst 'in the moment' managerial decisions the club has ever made. Nobody wanted to manage us though, so they didn't share your conviction. Mark Hughes was right. He might have kept us up, there was nobody else that could. I don't think Lambert was anywhere near as poor a manager as you claim. The reception Stoke's players gave him the first time he came back here spoke volumes. Not even Pulis got that.
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Jan 24, 2021 13:41:02 GMT
He would have kept us up if he had dropped (allowed ), butland and Shawcross
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Post by Deleted on Jan 24, 2021 13:42:40 GMT
The collective meltdown on here when we appointed Lambert was hilarious looking back on it. I think 99% of the message board realised that it was an utterly shit appointment made out of desperation. The funny thing is that most people wanted Rowett! 😄 And not TP? No that was only 0,00000000000001 % that did, in other words: you!
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Post by jonnybravo on Jan 24, 2021 13:57:11 GMT
The Coates obsession with having a British manager got us relegated, I heard they tried to get Rowett and he turned us down before they went for flores , instead of going for the top European manager that wanted the job they went for the average British manager.
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Post by march4 on Jan 24, 2021 13:58:15 GMT
No that was only 0,00000000000001 % that did, in other words: you! I thought it might be!
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Post by behindthemanager on Jan 24, 2021 14:00:00 GMT
hughes sent us down. coates should f got europaen manager and played 442
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Post by behindthemanager on Jan 24, 2021 14:01:39 GMT
The Coates obsession with having a British manager got us relegated, I heard they tried to get Rowett and he turned us down before they went for flores , instead of going for the top European manager that wanted the job they went for the average British manager. this is tru mate
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 24, 2021 14:08:53 GMT
Hughes was finished. Good manager for us in his time, but the 4-0 pastings were all too frequent and Arnie single handedly demolishing us at home had to be the end. We would have been dead and buried. It's easy to look back with Rose tinted glasses and forget how bad we were. Lambert's first game was notable as the first time our players broke a sweat in months. There was a lengthy discussion about it at the time but nobody could convince me that we'd have been any worse off moving heaven and Earth to bring in Pulis on a short term deal for the second half of the season with an enormous seven or eight figure staying up bonus. I can still remember my immediate reaction when the news filtered through at work. LAMBERT?! He was finished, but would he have managed to eke out another 4 points from the gutless shower? Probably so...... I just don't think it was possible. The crowd had completely turned and it was poisonous. It's hard to imagine us beating Huddersfield as we did in Lambert's first game, for example.
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 24, 2021 14:12:11 GMT
The rumour was at the time that when Quique bottled it and turned us down, another top European manager approached us . . . and we decided Paul Lambert was the best option. Craziness. Not a bad man but even he must've been shocked when he got the phone call saying he got the job. Suicidal appointment and we would've been better placed with Hughes. Who was that then?
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Post by realstokebloke on Jan 24, 2021 14:14:58 GMT
The collective meltdown on here when we appointed Lambert was hilarious looking back on it. I think 99% of the message board realised that it was an utterly shit appointment made out of desperation. The funny thing is that most people wanted Rowett! 😄 Not me squire. I'd have sent Teflon back to Spain with his arse in his hands and the threat of the chop if he didn't nail QSF's moniker. (We'll leave aside quite how he would have actually done shall we? ) But even that said, it would have been better than Lambo.
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