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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 21, 2024 0:21:47 GMT
Interesting news, it seems that the main source behind a claim of corruption by the Bidens has now said he was lying and he was in touch with Russian operatives. Link. Biden is running against the full Russian military intelligence and we've already seen how effective they are at spreading propaganda.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 21, 2024 0:26:52 GMT
Interesting news, it seems that the main source behind a claim of corruption by the Bidens has now said he was lying and he was in touch with Russian operatives. Link. Biden is running against the full Russian military intelligence and we've already seen how effective they are at spreading propaganda. Do you think this will have any influence on MAGA Nutjobs? More likely to reinforce their conviction that the Swamp is corrupt and only one man can drain it.
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Post by wannabee on Feb 21, 2024 0:39:33 GMT
I agree. Being almost 83 I'm probably better placed than most in making a judgement. I don't have a speech impediment but a failing memory is par for the course when ageing. As an analogy, some humans are like old dogs when they get old... grey around the chops, failing eyesight, slow reaction, and forgetful. It doesn't mean that Biden is not compos mentis, but he will suffer from those drawbacks I've mentioned. And another thing. The older you get the faster the ageing process progresses. Even if he's 'passable' now, another couple of years and he certainly won't be. But who could replace him? I've not seen anyone in the Democratic Party who stands out from the crowd. As for the current VP, Kamala Harris, Trump would eat her for breakfast. Robert F Kennedy anyone? He's got the famous name and although he's a bit of a nutter when it comes to vaccines, he might fit. But I don't know enough about him to make a judgement on that. Personally, I'd go for Bernie Sanders, but he's 82! But what I do know about Bernie is that he still has his marbles and would slaughter Trump in a debate. OS. Chiming in with my two cents as someone who works in Democratic politics (at a low level, and not exactly aligned with the establishment, so take my thoughts for what little they're worth). In an ideal world, Biden would have stood down around this time last year. I think he's been a largely solid president, if not as lefty as I'd like in my ideal world, but he's clearly too old to give it another go. If he'd announced his retirement and opened up the field to a competitive primary, a much stronger candidate would have emerged. My personal preference would have been Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, who was reelected in a blowout in a usually very competitive state in a Republican-leaning midterm, but there would have been lots of options. Whitmer, Harris, Newsom, maybe Senator Raphael Warnock, who the hell knows. But we in all likelihood would have ended up with someone not named Biden who could run on a similar (or ideally a bit more progressive) platform without concerns about age and distance themselves from the shortcomings of his administration. But obviously that didn't happen. And at this point, the party would have a full-on crisis on his hands if he stood down and anyone other than Harris took his place on the ticket. Black women are the single most important demographic to the Democratic Party -- they're our most supportive and highest propensity voting bloc. One of the golden rules of Democratic politics is that you can't alienate them. And they'd be livid if Biden dropped out at the last minute and the party apparatus replaced him with someone other than his black woman vice president. It's not just about fairness -- the party relies on their votes to get candidates over the line in swing states, and if you piss them off and they decide to stay home that can tip the balance. Would she be the best person to defeat Trump? Absolutely not. But replacing her on the ticket would be catastrophic. As for RFK Jr, beyond his crazy vaccine skepticism, he's also made some bizarrely homophobic comments. That's not going to fly on a Democratic ticket in 2024, either. Polls actually show him siphoning more support from Trump than Biden -- which is weird, because he's very pro-environment and supports abortion rights. He's got a unique mix of views that make him very poorly suited to run under the banner of either party. It's also worth noting that polls are showing that a lot of lower-info voters still don't realize that the election will almost certainly be Biden v. Trump II yet. Some Democrats see that as reason for optimism, thinking that once some swing voters realize we're stuck with the senile liberal against the senile fascist they'll come to their senses. I hope to God that's right. Good to get your perspective I'm still hoping that Biden sees sense and steps aside for whatever reason he wants to invent The thought of a Kamala Harris Presidency if an unfortunate incident occurred scares me as much as a Trump reincarnation I'm hoping for a late Michelle Obama entrance, if Biden steps aside with possibly Gavin Newsom on the ticket. A bonkers Kennedy is not required I'd be amazed if Crazy Kristi Norm isn't Trump's Running Mate, possibly Ben Carson if it's against Michelle
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Post by iancransonsknees on Feb 21, 2024 6:02:44 GMT
The dumbest thing Biden could do is run again. He's putting himself before his country by running again, he's clearly not fit enough to do a second term. Trump is having similar issues creep in too, neither are fit enough to lead the US. I agree. Being almost 83 I'm probably better placed than most in making a judgement. I don't have a speech impediment but a failing memory is par for the course when ageing. As an analogy, some humans are like old dogs when they get old... grey around the chops, failing eyesight, slow reaction, and forgetful. It doesn't mean that Biden is not compos mentis, but he will suffer from those drawbacks I've mentioned. And another thing. The older you get the faster the ageing process progresses. Even if he's 'passable' now, another couple of years and he certainly won't be. But who could replace him? I've not seen anyone in the Democratic Party who stands out from the crowd. As for the current VP, Kamala Harris, Trump would eat her for breakfast. Robert F Kennedy anyone? He's got the famous name and although he's a bit of a nutter when it comes to vaccines, he might fit. But I don't know enough about him to make a judgement on that. Personally, I'd go for Bernie Sanders, but he's 82! But what I do know about Bernie is that he still has his marbles and would slaughter Trump in a debate. OS. What would drive you to do it at your age? That's what I struggle to understand.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 21, 2024 9:44:10 GMT
So in conclusion the Americans have the choice of a megalomaniac in Teflon Don or a senile old coot considered too mentally weak to stand trial for mishandling top secret documents.
Wow, what a state of affairs when you let that sink in 😔
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Post by mjg13x on Feb 21, 2024 13:16:16 GMT
Chiming in with my two cents as someone who works in Democratic politics (at a low level, and not exactly aligned with the establishment, so take my thoughts for what little they're worth). In an ideal world, Biden would have stood down around this time last year. I think he's been a largely solid president, if not as lefty as I'd like in my ideal world, but he's clearly too old to give it another go. If he'd announced his retirement and opened up the field to a competitive primary, a much stronger candidate would have emerged. My personal preference would have been Gretchen Whitmer, the governor of Michigan, who was reelected in a blowout in a usually very competitive state in a Republican-leaning midterm, but there would have been lots of options. Whitmer, Harris, Newsom, maybe Senator Raphael Warnock, who the hell knows. But we in all likelihood would have ended up with someone not named Biden who could run on a similar (or ideally a bit more progressive) platform without concerns about age and distance themselves from the shortcomings of his administration. But obviously that didn't happen. And at this point, the party would have a full-on crisis on his hands if he stood down and anyone other than Harris took his place on the ticket. Black women are the single most important demographic to the Democratic Party -- they're our most supportive and highest propensity voting bloc. One of the golden rules of Democratic politics is that you can't alienate them. And they'd be livid if Biden dropped out at the last minute and the party apparatus replaced him with someone other than his black woman vice president. It's not just about fairness -- the party relies on their votes to get candidates over the line in swing states, and if you piss them off and they decide to stay home that can tip the balance. Would she be the best person to defeat Trump? Absolutely not. But replacing her on the ticket would be catastrophic. As for RFK Jr, beyond his crazy vaccine skepticism, he's also made some bizarrely homophobic comments. That's not going to fly on a Democratic ticket in 2024, either. Polls actually show him siphoning more support from Trump than Biden -- which is weird, because he's very pro-environment and supports abortion rights. He's got a unique mix of views that make him very poorly suited to run under the banner of either party. It's also worth noting that polls are showing that a lot of lower-info voters still don't realize that the election will almost certainly be Biden v. Trump II yet. Some Democrats see that as reason for optimism, thinking that once some swing voters realize we're stuck with the senile liberal against the senile fascist they'll come to their senses. I hope to God that's right. Good to get your perspective I'm still hoping that Biden sees sense and steps aside for whatever reason he wants to invent The thought of a Kamala Harris Presidency if an unfortunate incident occurred scares me as much as a Trump reincarnation I'm hoping for a late Michelle Obama entrance, if Biden steps aside with possibly Gavin Newsom on the ticket. A bonkers Kennedy is not required I'd be amazed if Crazy Kristi Norm isn't Trump's Running Mate, possibly Ben Carson if it's against Michelle Michelle Obama would be a fantastic president, but all the reporting is that she has no interest in ever getting into politics herself. You never know though. Newsom is absolutely going to run in 2028, and he’d be in the mix if something happened to Biden. My main worry about him is that he’s so easy to characterize as an out of touch coastal elite, and the path to a Democratic presidency runs through working class places in the Midwest like Michigan and Wisconsin. (It never fails to baffle me that people see Donald Trump, the man who literally shits in golden toilets in his Manhattan penthouse, as a “man of the people,” but they do somehow.) Man, if our democracy makes it to 2028, the primaries are going to be absolutely bonkers on both sides.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 21, 2024 13:31:47 GMT
Good to get your perspective I'm still hoping that Biden sees sense and steps aside for whatever reason he wants to invent The thought of a Kamala Harris Presidency if an unfortunate incident occurred scares me as much as a Trump reincarnation I'm hoping for a late Michelle Obama entrance, if Biden steps aside with possibly Gavin Newsom on the ticket. A bonkers Kennedy is not required I'd be amazed if Crazy Kristi Norm isn't Trump's Running Mate, possibly Ben Carson if it's against Michelle Michelle Obama would be a fantastic president, but all the reporting is that she has no interest in ever getting into politics herself. You never know though. Newsom is absolutely going to run in 2028, and he’d be in the mix if something happened to Biden. My main worry about him is that he’s so easy to characterize as an out of touch coastal elite, and the path to a Democratic presidency runs through working class places in the Midwest like Michigan and Wisconsin. (It never fails to baffle me that people see Donald Trump, the man who literally shits in golden toilets in his Manhattan penthouse, as a “man of the people,” but they do somehow.) Man, if our democracy makes it to 2028, the primaries are going to be absolutely bonkers on both sides. I’d really like to see Buttigieg make another run in 2028. I’m disappointed that they didn’t try and push him more into the limelight during this term. I know he’s gay but he’s also a vet that has been commended for his services.
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Post by mjg13x on Feb 21, 2024 14:36:00 GMT
Michelle Obama would be a fantastic president, but all the reporting is that she has no interest in ever getting into politics herself. You never know though. Newsom is absolutely going to run in 2028, and he’d be in the mix if something happened to Biden. My main worry about him is that he’s so easy to characterize as an out of touch coastal elite, and the path to a Democratic presidency runs through working class places in the Midwest like Michigan and Wisconsin. (It never fails to baffle me that people see Donald Trump, the man who literally shits in golden toilets in his Manhattan penthouse, as a “man of the people,” but they do somehow.) Man, if our democracy makes it to 2028, the primaries are going to be absolutely bonkers on both sides. I’d really like to see Buttigieg make another run in 2028. I’m disappointed that they didn’t try and push him more into the limelight during this term. I know he’s gay but he’s also a vet that has been commended for his services. I like him a lot too. He’s been floated as a running mate for 2028 if there’s a woman at the top of the ticket, but I’m sure one way or another he’ll make another run of his own at some point. One thing I really admire about him is that unlike so many Dems he’s not afraid to go on right wing TV and push back. He’s not someone who would let the other side control the narrative. I suspect Biden might move him up to a higher cabinet position in a second term to give him a better launching point, because transportation secretary is kind of a dead end job and he’ll have trouble getting elected — Indiana is hard-right territory, and even though he’s moved to Michigan he’ll have an uphill battle explaining why he moved (the Oz effect).
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Feb 21, 2024 14:37:15 GMT
Michelle Obama would be a fantastic president, but all the reporting is that she has no interest in ever getting into politics herself. You never know though. Newsom is absolutely going to run in 2028, and he’d be in the mix if something happened to Biden. My main worry about him is that he’s so easy to characterize as an out of touch coastal elite, and the path to a Democratic presidency runs through working class places in the Midwest like Michigan and Wisconsin. (It never fails to baffle me that people see Donald Trump, the man who literally shits in golden toilets in his Manhattan penthouse, as a “man of the people,” but they do somehow.) Man, if our democracy makes it to 2028, the primaries are going to be absolutely bonkers on both sides. I’d really like to see Buttigieg make another run in 2028. I’m disappointed that they didn’t try and push him more into the limelight during this term. I know he’s gay but he’s also a vet that has been commended for his services. Not sure even his own party are that keen on him. Did a poor job regarding the Ohio chemical spill after that train derailment. That said at least his brain works and he can speak coherently. And he's not an octogenarian.....
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 21, 2024 15:45:02 GMT
So in conclusion the Americans have the choice of a megalomaniac in Teflon Don or a senile old coot considered too mentally weak to stand trial for mishandling top secret documents. Wow, what a state of affairs when you let that sink in 😔 TBF it was a trump appointee who said that about Biden. He could just have been campaigning for trump.
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Post by cvillestokie on Feb 21, 2024 17:39:45 GMT
I’d really like to see Buttigieg make another run in 2028. I’m disappointed that they didn’t try and push him more into the limelight during this term. I know he’s gay but he’s also a vet that has been commended for his services. Not sure even his own party are that keen on him. Did a poor job regarding the Ohio chemical spill after that train derailment. That said at least his brain works and he can speak coherently. And he's not an octogenarian..... He should have gone there. However, he had the balls to turn around and say that he made a mistake in not doing so rather than just deflecting. I respect that.
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Post by mjg13x on Feb 21, 2024 17:43:31 GMT
So in conclusion the Americans have the choice of a megalomaniac in Teflon Don or a senile old coot considered too mentally weak to stand trial for mishandling top secret documents. Wow, what a state of affairs when you let that sink in 😔 TBF it was a trump appointee who said that about Biden. He could just have been campaigning for trump. Not quite — the special counsel is a Republican, but he was appointed by the Democratic attorney general Metrick Garland, who in turn was appointed by Biden. He did have a role in the Trump admin though as a US attorney.
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Post by spitthedog on Feb 21, 2024 18:30:12 GMT
So in conclusion the Americans have the choice of a megalomaniac in Teflon Don or a senile old coot considered too mentally weak to stand trial for mishandling top secret documents. Wow, what a state of affairs when you let that sink in 😔 Jon Stewart nails it....again Great to see him back.
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Post by mtrstudent on Feb 21, 2024 18:33:15 GMT
TBF it was a trump appointee who said that about Biden. He could just have been campaigning for trump. Not quite — the special counsel is a Republican, but he was appointed by the Democratic attorney general Metrick Garland, who in turn was appointed by Biden. He did have a role in the Trump admin though as a US attorney. I mean the guy who said the stuff was a trump appointee originally as you said. Garland may have picked him because if he picked a non-republican, then the Republicans and news would have thrown a shit fit about bias. Given the history of trump's people with the truth, there's a realistic chance his guy decided to say whatever he thought would be most damaging to Biden. He could be honest of course, and accurate about Biden. But he's associated with trump so it's fair to also assume he's a liar.
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Post by mjg13x on Feb 21, 2024 20:00:42 GMT
Not quite — the special counsel is a Republican, but he was appointed by the Democratic attorney general Metrick Garland, who in turn was appointed by Biden. He did have a role in the Trump admin though as a US attorney. I mean the guy who said the stuff was a trump appointee originally as you said. Garland may have picked him because if he picked a non-republican, then the Republicans and news would have thrown a shit fit about bias. Given the history of trump's people with the truth, there's a realistic chance his guy decided to say whatever he thought would be most damaging to Biden. He could be honest of course, and accurate about Biden. But he's associated with trump so it's fair to also assume he's a liar. Oh for sure. Garland fucked up royally by giving the keys to a Trump crony in the name of "bipartisanship"
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Mar 26, 2024 21:13:53 GMT
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Mar 26, 2024 21:17:49 GMT
He's so full of shit. But the trump distraction works well and he mostly gets away with it. America have 2 clowns to vote for come November, go figure....
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Post by wannabee on Mar 26, 2024 22:10:32 GMT
It's an oddly constructed sentence for sure but he clearly says he commuted by Train and by Car This would have been between Delaware and Washington via Baltimore They don't call Biden Amtrak Joe for nothing, he knows his Trains
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Post by cvillestokie on Apr 12, 2024 14:07:50 GMT
www.cnn.com/2024/04/12/politics/biden-student-loan-forgiveness/index.htmlA bullshit bribe. If Biden wants to do something about public education, he should invest in better schools and work with States to bring down State university fees. It’s not like the people who took on these loans were forced to do so at gunpoint. They made a decision and should reap what the sew.
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Post by wannabee on Apr 12, 2024 14:58:12 GMT
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2024 8:42:19 GMT
It really isn't funny anymore, the world could find itself in a lot of trouble if this clown is allowed to continue ...
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 18, 2024 12:30:24 GMT
It really isn't funny anymore, the world could find itself in a lot of trouble if this clown is allowed to continue ... Almost as much as they will if they elect the other mentally challenged alternative
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Post by Paul Spencer on Apr 18, 2024 12:48:06 GMT
It really isn't funny anymore, the world could find itself in a lot of trouble if this clown is allowed to continue ... Almost as much as they will if they elect the other mentally challenged alternative Yup, just how on earth has it got to this? Frightening!
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Post by flea79 on Apr 18, 2024 14:19:29 GMT
Almost as much as they will if they elect the other mentally challenged alternative Yup, just how on earth has it got to this? Frightening! the most powerful office on the earth reduced to a turd sandwich or a giant douche...
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Apr 24, 2024 19:23:44 GMT
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Post by flea79 on Apr 25, 2024 12:05:08 GMT
thats plainly AI! dont like the man but ffs lets not just peddle lies about him
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Post by riverman on Apr 25, 2024 15:09:12 GMT
Here's a bit more of the same speech but at the correct speed.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Apr 25, 2024 15:54:10 GMT
Here's a bit more of the same speech but at the correct speed. He speaks like me after 6 stellas 😆
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Post by desman2 on Apr 25, 2024 17:30:07 GMT
He's so full of shit. But the trump distraction works well and he mostly gets away with it. America have 2 clowns to vote for come November, go figure.... Bit like us then. Its like they say it starts there and ends up over here.
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