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Post by spitthedog on Dec 24, 2020 15:40:07 GMT
It seems a distinct possibility. I'm just trying to imagine how it might change the way the game is played. End of hoof ball? Will have a massive impact on corners I imagine. will heading be an offence in all scenarios? Players sent off for intentionally heading the ball? What happens when a free kick outside the box is hit full pelt at head height?
On the upside could spell the end of Danny Baath's aimless high punts upfield. Not that they go anywhere near anyone's head anyway.
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Post by march4 on Dec 24, 2020 15:43:27 GMT
It seems a distinct possibility. I'm just trying to imagine how it might change the way the game is played. End of hoof ball? Will have a massive impact on corners I imagine. will heading be an offence in all scenarios? Players sent off for intentionally heading the ball? What happens when a free kick outside the box is hit full pelt at head height? On the upside could spell the end of Danny Baath's aimless high punts upfield. Not that they go anywhere near anyone's head anyway. Like 5 a side? Free kick if ball goes above head height?
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Dec 24, 2020 15:43:29 GMT
Be like a man with no hands trying to wank, pointless...🤣
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 24, 2020 16:01:40 GMT
Be like a man with no hands trying to wank, pointless...🤣 I'll take your word for it
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Post by GeneralFaye on Dec 24, 2020 16:01:48 GMT
I'll stop watching.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Dec 24, 2020 16:07:26 GMT
It would be the end of the game as we know it. It’ll never happen, the footballs are already way lighter. These are injuries from decades ago
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 24, 2020 16:11:20 GMT
It would be the end of the game as we know it. It’ll never happen, the footballs are already way lighter. These are injuries from decades ago I'm not convinced it will happen, but if enough legal cases start coming through then the FA might get twitchy, it could also be taken out of their hands?
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Post by lawrieleslie on Dec 24, 2020 16:40:31 GMT
There will be other issues than the obvious ones. Defensive wall at free kicks, defenders on the goal line at set pieces and if there is a restriction on how high the ball can be kicked would this reduce the goal height by a couple feet?
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Post by ravey123 on Dec 24, 2020 16:43:07 GMT
It seems a distinct possibility. I'm just trying to imagine how it might change the way the game is played. End of hoof ball? Will have a massive impact on corners I imagine. will heading be an offence in all scenarios? Players sent off for intentionally heading the ball? What happens when a free kick outside the box is hit full pelt at head height? On the upside could spell the end of Danny Baath's aimless high punts upfield. Not that they go anywhere near anyone's head anyway. Football without heading is not football - the game would die as a spectacle. Perhaps they continue with heading but wear head protectors
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Post by longdistancekiddie on Dec 24, 2020 16:58:44 GMT
Use your hand above head height,,,
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 17:23:21 GMT
Be like a man with no hands trying to wank, pointless...🤣 I've just tucked my two hands and forearms into my t-shirt and had a go with my two elbows mimicking stumps. It's do-able, a little uncomfortable and no way of holding the catch it tissue, but definitely not pointless.
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Post by spitthedog on Dec 24, 2020 17:43:00 GMT
Be like a man with no hands trying to wank, pointless...🤣 I've just tucked my two hands and forearms into my t-shirt and had a go with my two elbows mimicking stumps. It's do-able, a little uncomfortable and no way of holding the catch it tissue, but definitely not pointless. I can try it out tomorrow seeing as Gran and Grandad wont be coming around.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 18:03:29 GMT
Balls are so light now is nonsense.Turning people into utter pansies if some get their way. Non contact boxing next
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Post by dirtclod on Dec 24, 2020 21:16:47 GMT
Be like a man with no hands trying to wank, pointless...🤣 I've just tucked my two hands and forearms into my t-shirt and had a go with my two elbows mimicking stumps. It's do-able, a little uncomfortable and no way of holding the catch it tissue, but definitely not pointless. Vincent? I believe you may have achieved....Zen there? That has to be on the same level as "the sound of one hand clapping"
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 24, 2020 21:46:13 GMT
Balls are so light now is nonsense.Turning people into utter pansies if some get their way. Non contact boxing next There's a greater danger of head clashes with heading though. It's disturbing what happened to Ryan Mason and Andy Wilkinson in recent years, though these are isolated incidents amongst thousands of professional footballers. I think the substitution allowance is a good start so players can be assessed before playing on. That will make being a footballer much safer. It's a completely different sport, but look how much safer F1 is now - Romain Grosjean is very lucky to be alive after his recent crash, and it shows changes can make a big positive difference. I'm not a doctor but surely the lightness of today's balls must make a big difference, almost voiding older studies, and I find it a bit sad Kay Stiles (Nobby's wife) is so adamant even today's balls are causing dementia. Even the Alzheimer's Society says evidence for dementia related to football isn't conclusive, and that'll be taking into account the studies with the old heavy balls: "Although there is evidence that dementia is linked to repeated brain injuries in boxing and American football, there is a shortage of confirmed CTE cases across all sports, and the results in rugby, hockey, football (soccer), wrestling, and other sports are considerably less conclusive. Almost a hundred years after the term 'punch drunk' was coined, there is still no consensus on the link between brain trauma and dementia. Large scale studies of contact and collision sports involving amateur and professional athletes with varying career lengths, age, and genetic predisposition are needed to clarify the causes of this condition."
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Post by salopstick on Dec 24, 2020 21:51:35 GMT
The balls may be lighter but they travel much faster. I’ve read they may do as much damage as the old leather balls
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Post by maninasuitcase on Dec 24, 2020 21:56:17 GMT
Gaelic football here we come then. No heading but lots of handling instead. Ideal for us as the amount of shots over the bar would actual count as points in the game as well.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 21:56:41 GMT
Any sport has a risk and anyone playing it take it. Who has the right to tell them otherwise? Is like saying you can't work on a building site as people get injured.
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Post by samba :) on Dec 24, 2020 22:00:21 GMT
I also will stop watching
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Post by Gabrielzakuaniandjuliet on Dec 24, 2020 22:01:55 GMT
Any sport has a risk and anyone playing it take it. Who has the right to tell them otherwise? Is like saying you can't work on a building site as people get injured. There is some sense to this idea but in reality society can't function like that. There has to be an element of responsibility, which is why we have laws for things like wearing seatbelts.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 24, 2020 22:07:41 GMT
Is a contact sport and don't play the game ...your choice. Everything has risks, you can't wrap people in bubble wrap like some are trying to do The current climate of interfering do-gooders is nonsense
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 24, 2020 22:08:27 GMT
Any sport has a risk and anyone playing it take it. Who has the right to tell them otherwise? Is like saying you can't work on a building site as people get injured. There is some sense to this idea but in reality society can't function like that. There has to be an element of responsibility, which is why we have laws for things like wearing seatbelts. There is already an element of responsibility. There are far more dangerous things that are part of a normal society than playing football. A proper study should be required before anything is done anyway. The link in rugby seems obvious given the number of rucks players are involved in, but the impact in football isn't so obvious.
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Post by skemstokie on Dec 24, 2020 22:11:01 GMT
Balls are so light now is nonsense.Turning people into utter pansies if some get their way. Non contact boxing next I tend to agree ,the balls way back were not made for easy kicking let alone heading,that`s why i went in goal
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Post by Vadiation_Ribe on Dec 24, 2020 22:14:22 GMT
Another thing about footballs until the 60s/70s is the stitching was ridiculously hard, and the balls got much heavier when wet. Surely modern footballs can't have anywhere near as much of an impact, even when travelling at higher speeds. And how often does someone head a football that's travelling at 60mph?
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Dec 24, 2020 22:31:25 GMT
I think boxing may be a distant first in the queue before football.
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Post by Gods on Dec 25, 2020 0:01:32 GMT
Is a contact sport and don't play the game ...your choice. Everything has risks, you can't wrap people in bubble wrap like some are trying to do The current climate of interfering do-gooders is nonsense It's fine to say 'your choice' and I get that but isn't the point here that if football's governing bodies continue to allow heading despite evidence it may cause brain damage it will be they that are found to be negligent and personally liable.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2020 0:09:53 GMT
Is a contact sport and don't play the game ...your choice. Everything has risks, you can't wrap people in bubble wrap like some are trying to do The current climate of interfering do-gooders is nonsense It's fine to say 'your choice' and I get that but isn't the point here that if football's governing bodies continue to allow heading despite evidence it may cause brain damage it will be they that are found to be negligent and personally liable. If this kind of nonsense came Into play after hundreds of years of people playing sport then where will the line be drawn? Sheer stupidity but the way things are sadly going
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Post by Gods on Dec 25, 2020 0:12:46 GMT
It's fine to say 'your choice' and I get that but isn't the point here that if football's governing bodies continue to allow heading despite evidence it may cause brain damage it will be they that are found to be negligent and personally liable. If this kind of nonsense came Into play after hundreds of years of people playing sport then where will the line be drawn? Sheer stupidity but the way things are sadly going I'm with you, I don't want to see it banned, just trying to anticipate how this one could play out in the fullness of time.
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Post by Deleted on Dec 25, 2020 0:23:18 GMT
If this kind of nonsense came Into play after hundreds of years of people playing sport then where will the line be drawn? Sheer stupidity but the way things are sadly going I'm with you, I don't want to see it banned, just trying to anticipate how this one could play out in the fullness of time. Can see headwear coming in...awould upset the Alice band brigade
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Post by pottarius on Dec 25, 2020 6:44:34 GMT
Is a contact sport and don't play the game ...your choice. Everything has risks, you can't wrap people in bubble wrap like some are trying to do The current climate of interfering do-gooders is nonsense It's fine to say 'your choice' and I get that but isn't the point here that if football's governing bodies continue to allow heading despite evidence it may cause brain damage it will be they that are found to be negligent and personally liable. I think ultimately it’ll be a waiver of club and FA responsibility players will be asked to sign in each contract in the future. No heading at all would be the death of the game - more like the UK will end up more continental in future with less reliance on hoofing and crossing, the enforcement of 5-a-side rules for kids I think will also encourage this development
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