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Post by FranktheRabbit on Jan 17, 2021 19:15:04 GMT
Which other manager achieved 3 consecutive top 10 finishes then in our history? He wouldn't have achieved anything if he hadn't have inherited TP's team So what? Pulis couldn't take us any higher, Hughes came in and made us a lot better and gave us some of the best football we have ever seen Stoke play. He made us serious contenders in the Premier league. Why wouldn't you be happy with what he did for us? I find it odd.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 19:18:36 GMT
Didn't really achieve anything though, did he. And don't say 3 ninth place finishes, whoopy do. Inherited TP's team and when they started to fall apart so did hughes Complete waste of space that bloke I’ve never understood why people seem to go crazy over three nine place finishes In my time Stoke have twice come closer to winning the league than a place above half way We've never been a regular tôp half team in our history despite what some claim. What he did was impressive and deserves credit . Utter nonsense to say he achieved nothing like some saying. Doesn't matter if we nearly won the League once, doesn't take anything away from him.
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Post by dave1 on Jan 17, 2021 19:25:00 GMT
He wouldn't have achieved anything if he hadn't have inherited TP's team So what? Pulis couldn't take us any higher, Hughes came in and made us a lot better and gave us some of the best football we have ever seen Stoke play. He made us serious contenders in the Premier league. Why wouldn't you be happy with what he did for us? I find it odd. Serious contenders?? We finished ninth,a couple of places/points more than where we had achieved previously. In the process we spunked shit loads of money and he sent us down! He's an absolute wanker. People may think I'm on a fishing trip but I'm genuinely not. I can't stand the bloke
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 17, 2021 19:26:22 GMT
So what? Pulis couldn't take us any higher, Hughes came in and made us a lot better and gave us some of the best football we have ever seen Stoke play. He made us serious contenders in the Premier league. Why wouldn't you be happy with what he did for us? I find it odd. Serious contenders?? We finished ninth,a couple of places/points more than where we had achieved previously. In the process we spunked shit loads of money and he sent us down! He's an absolute wanker. People may think I'm on a fishing trip but I'm genuinely not. I can't stand the bloke Actually in the first two ninth places seasons we didn’t spend much at all and had one of the lowest wage bills in the division.
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Post by dave1 on Jan 17, 2021 19:28:10 GMT
Serious contenders?? We finished ninth,a couple of places/points more than where we had achieved previously. In the process we spunked shit loads of money and he sent us down! He's an absolute wanker. People may think I'm on a fishing trip but I'm genuinely not. I can't stand the bloke Actually in the first two ninth places seasons we didn’t spend much at all and had one of the lowest wage bills in the division. Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 19:32:51 GMT
Which other manager achieved 3 consecutive top 10 finishes then in our history? Which other manager blew £18+million for a fat useless central defender that we didn’t need, and still have on the payroll whilst also paying a King’s ransom for the loan of another central defender? And that’s just two examples of his dealings at the beginning of the end, and I know about three ninth places, that’s 1 better than 10th and 1 worse than 8th on three consecutive occasions. see you didnt ánswer the 1uestion ánd focused instead on a bad signing over many good ones. Name a manager who didn't make a poor signing or simply avoid answering that as well
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 19:33:39 GMT
Actually in the first two ninth places seasons we didn’t spend much at all and had one of the lowest wage bills in the division. Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart Absolute nonsense
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 19:39:07 GMT
Which other manager achieved 3 consecutive top 10 finishes then in our history? He wouldn't have achieved anything if he hadn't have inherited TP's team That's a bit like saying MON couldn't have kept us up if he hadn't inherited Jones' team...
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 17, 2021 19:39:26 GMT
I’ve never understood why people seem to go crazy over three nine place finishes In my time Stoke have twice come closer to winning the league than a place above half way We've never been a regular tôp half team in our history despite what some claim. What he did was impressive and deserves credit . Utter nonsense to say he achieved nothing like some saying. Doesn't matter if we nearly won the League once, doesn't take anything away from him. 1 2 3 4 5 6 7 8 (9) 10 11 12 13 14 15 16 17 18 19 (20 21 22) it all depends on how we see things, we are either eight places away from being champions or ten places above a relegation place, we were never contenders, we had a very talented team that could beat anyone on a good day and a very talented team that could lose to anyone on a bad day. We were never consistent and all the games that we eulogise were never part of run, they were one offs.
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on Jan 17, 2021 19:40:50 GMT
I think the Arnie transfer did for Hughes he completely lost the plot after he went. He did right by Arnie got him a new improved contract on better terms then got shit on from a great height. I think it destroyed him & he lost his love for football & shit house players & agents.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 17, 2021 19:42:11 GMT
Actually in the first two ninth places seasons we didn’t spend much at all and had one of the lowest wage bills in the division. Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart Having revitalised it first and made it better than it was, yes. And not having (initially at first) ‘spent shitloads of money’ as you suggested? Any chance you could have a bash at answering my question? You’ve dodged it again.
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Post by J-Roar on Jan 17, 2021 19:44:38 GMT
He got within a penalty shoot out of a cup final after winning at Anfield in the SF You need to jog up on your history Losing a penalty shootout in the semi final or getting knocked out in the second- doesn't really matter- we didn't make the final! No need to jog up on my history- thanks That argument would work if we'd won the cup. The best football I ever saw is play was under Hughes. The best players I ever saw play for us were signed by Hughes. It went to shit in the end and he was driving me mad in the end but those 2 seasons were brilliant.
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 17, 2021 19:45:00 GMT
Which other manager blew £18+million for a fat useless central defender that we didn’t need, and still have on the payroll whilst also paying a King’s ransom for the loan of another central defender? And that’s just two examples of his dealings at the beginning of the end, and I know about three ninth places, that’s 1 better than 10th and 1 worse than 8th on three consecutive occasions. see you didnt ánswer the 1uestion ánd focused instead on a bad signing over many good ones. Name a manager who didn't make a poor signing or simply avoid answering that as well ASA HARTFORD
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 17, 2021 20:05:43 GMT
Which other manager blew £18+million for a fat useless central defender that we didn’t need, and still have on the payroll whilst also paying a King’s ransom for the loan of another central defender? And that’s just two examples of his dealings at the beginning of the end, and I know about three ninth places, that’s 1 better than 10th and 1 worse than 8th on three consecutive occasions. see you didnt ánswer the 1uestion ánd focused instead on a bad signing over many good ones. Name a manager who didn't make a poor signing or simply avoid answering that as well Wollscheid, Haugaard, Joselu, Imbula, Bony, Sidwell, Guidetti, Agudelo, Berahino, Sobhi, Fletcher, Choupo-Moting, Zouma, Jese & The notorious B I G- Wimmer. Put a couple of loans in and left some out, I can focus on more than one signing !
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Post by PotterLog on Jan 17, 2021 20:48:34 GMT
You have though, haven’t you, because you said Hughes didn’t “get near” a cup final, and now rather than just admit you forgot he did actually get within a penalty or two of making a cup final, you’re claiming going out in a semifinal on penalties is just the same as going out in the second round. Incidentally you realise we lost the FA cup final right? Therefore no achievement. Presumably we can say TP never “got near” winning a trophy with us?
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2021 20:58:03 GMT
Actually in the first two ninth places seasons we didn’t spend much at all and had one of the lowest wage bills in the division. Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart So how come TP couldn't get his own team 9th?
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Post by onefatcopper on Jan 17, 2021 21:09:40 GMT
Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart So how come TP couldn't get his own team 9th? He was prevented from exposing his dossier
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Post by silsdenstokie on Jan 17, 2021 21:19:28 GMT
Actually in the first two ninth places seasons we didn’t spend much at all and had one of the lowest wage bills in the division. Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart Jeez, you dont half talk some shite
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2021 21:30:50 GMT
So how come TP couldn't get his own team 9th? He was prevented from exposing his dossier Ooh er mrs
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Post by dave1 on Jan 17, 2021 21:31:30 GMT
Yeah, and then he started to lose TP's team and everything started to fall apart So how come TP couldn't get his own team 9th? Cool story bro
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2021 21:38:05 GMT
So how come TP couldn't get his own team 9th? Cool story bro It's not a story, it's a question you're incapable of answering. Bro 😆
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Post by potterburt on Jan 17, 2021 21:51:20 GMT
It's not a story, it's a question you're incapable of answering. Bro 😆 Does the story go that... the boo boys like you came out of the void and started complaining that we weren’t first on MOTD and so TP was sacked to be replaced with a manager that spent ridiculous money on players for a number of seasons , yah! We finished 9th a woohoo - but which has subsequently landed us in this mess, the mess of which you still aren’t supporting our team in and instead sneak out your void to whinge and whine into the dark void that is your existence?
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Post by potterburt on Jan 17, 2021 21:57:52 GMT
And on the point of the thread. I truly hope for the sake of any unsuspecting team within a league that they don’t have to deal with Mark Hughes as a manager - unless, as Southampton did who cleverly just hooked him in to change a flow and booted him out before he got near to any purse strings.
He got spoilt starting with Citeh and met and got in bed with too many agents, which has ruined us for possibly over a decade to get back to those glorious 9th place finishes! - in QPRs case, it’s been even longer. If he can get a gig as the Wales manager again - best place for him. Doesn’t have to man manage or influence / inspire players and can’t initiate any wheeler dealer greasy agent hand shake deals either.
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Post by numpty40 on Jan 17, 2021 21:59:29 GMT
I'm sure at the time Graham Potter wanted the job and would have crawled on hands and knees to take the job. Somehow in a parallel universe the board thought Lambert was the man for the job. You shouldn't do what ifs....but what if Stoke had appointed Potter instead of Lambert.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 17, 2021 22:00:47 GMT
It's not a story, it's a question you're incapable of answering. Bro 😆 Does the story go that... the boo boys like you came out of the void and started complaining that we weren’t first on MOTD and so TP was sacked to be replaced with a manager that spent ridiculous money on players for a number of seasons , yah! We finished 9th a woohoo - but which has subsequently landed us in this mess, the mess of which you still aren’t supporting our team in and instead sneak out your void to whinge and whine into the dark void that is your existence? Is that why you think TP was sacked? 😂
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Post by dave1 on Jan 17, 2021 22:01:22 GMT
It's not a story, it's a question you're incapable of answering. Bro 😆 Does the story go that... the boo boys like you came out of the void and started complaining that we weren’t first on MOTD and so TP was sacked to be replaced with a manager that spent ridiculous money on players for a number of seasons , yah! We finished 9th a woohoo - but which has subsequently landed us in this mess, the mess of which you still aren’t supporting our team in and instead sneak out your void to whinge and whine into the dark void that is your existence? School tomo (albeit virtually). Better get to bed young un
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Post by potterburt on Jan 17, 2021 22:02:50 GMT
Does the story go that... the boo boys like you came out of the void and started complaining that we weren’t first on MOTD and so TP was sacked to be replaced with a manager that spent ridiculous money on players for a number of seasons , yah! We finished 9th a woohoo - but which has subsequently landed us in this mess, the mess of which you still aren’t supporting our team in and instead sneak out your void to whinge and whine into the dark void that is your existence? School tomo (albeit virtually). Better get to bed young un 🤦🏻♂️ and such a school yard reply. Well done!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Jan 17, 2021 22:03:35 GMT
Does the story go that... the boo boys like you came out of the void and started complaining that we weren’t first on MOTD and so TP was sacked to be replaced with a manager that spent ridiculous money on players for a number of seasons , yah! We finished 9th a woohoo - but which has subsequently landed us in this mess, the mess of which you still aren’t supporting our team in and instead sneak out your void to whinge and whine into the dark void that is your existence? School tomo (albeit virtually). Better get to bed young un He’s on your side you fool. Why can’t you answer the question? Why couldn’t Pulis finish as high as (apparently inconsequential) ninth?
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Post by potterburt on Jan 17, 2021 22:06:58 GMT
Does the story go that... the boo boys like you came out of the void and started complaining that we weren’t first on MOTD and so TP was sacked to be replaced with a manager that spent ridiculous money on players for a number of seasons , yah! We finished 9th a woohoo - but which has subsequently landed us in this mess, the mess of which you still aren’t supporting our team in and instead sneak out your void to whinge and whine into the dark void that is your existence? Is that why you think TP was sacked? 😂 Yep.... not solely. But generally, a large growing pressure was from a swathe of sudden supporters that suddenly noticed that was that local team on their telebox and so thought it be grande to get involved and do some visits to the premier footy game but were shocked to see that it wasn’t as shiney and glorious as those top stars on tele made it out to be. Then the groans and grumbles came.... yada yada blah blah
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Post by potterburt on Jan 17, 2021 22:08:42 GMT
School tomo (albeit virtually). Better get to bed young un He’s on your side you fool. Why can’t you answer the question? Why couldn’t Pulis finish as high as (apparently inconsequential) ninth? What side? Who’s side of what? And That wasn’t my question to answer. He couldn’t finish higher than ninth because what the heck did 9th place have to do with TP, who the hell was talking about 9th place when TP was here?
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