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Post by Gary Hackett on Dec 22, 2020 11:37:09 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards.
I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced.
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Post by Old School Stokie on Dec 22, 2020 14:43:01 GMT
So the Hughes lovers should just think about the obvious, where has he been after failing at Stoke & Southampton - try the wilderness and there he should remain to avoid the Chairmen & fans of Christmas future. He couldn't even make a success of the infinite buying powers of Many city and his overseeing of remise of SCFC recruitment policy should be his epitaph RIP MH
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Dec 22, 2020 14:54:18 GMT
So the Hughes lovers should just think about the obvious, where has he been after failing at Stoke & Southampton - try the wilderness and there he should remain to avoid the Chairmen & fans of Christmas future. He couldn't even make a success of the infinite buying powers of Many city and his overseeing of remise of SCFC recruitment policy should be his epitaph RIP MH I don't think there are any 'Hughes Lovers' - the way things ended put paid to that. Just those of us who can be balanced about the good stuff in the first few years as well as the bad stuff in the last couple.
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Post by franklin on Dec 22, 2020 15:19:59 GMT
If we were in need of a manager I would be delighted with him.
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Post by FullerMagic on Jan 17, 2021 10:58:54 GMT
Interesting to see what kind of level he pops up at...
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Jan 17, 2021 11:01:25 GMT
Interesting to see what kind of level he pops up at... Reckon he might end up as Wales manager again. Can’t see Giggs carrying on
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jan 17, 2021 11:04:29 GMT
Interesting to see what kind of level he pops up at... Reckon he might end up as Wales manager again. Can’t see Giggs carrying on An International managers job would suit him down to the ground.....
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Post by clarkeda on Jan 17, 2021 11:34:31 GMT
Interesting to see what kind of level he pops up at... Reckon he might end up as Wales manager again. Can’t see Giggs carrying on I said this, Wales job seems like a great fit for him.
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Post by scfc75 on Jan 17, 2021 11:42:09 GMT
Good luck to him.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 17, 2021 11:46:30 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards. I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced. Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world.......
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Post by werrington on Jan 17, 2021 11:51:06 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards. I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced. Hindsight is great and as much as I agree with all of that his position had become untenable after that defeat to 4th tier Coventry City He was a fantastic manager who’d lost his way and I said it at the time that victory at Watford in the October previous was possibly our worst ever win and it just prolonged the agony In all honesty he should of gone in that final home match live on tv v Arsenal when only around 500 fans hung around for the lap of applause by the players The stadium was empty in those final 20 minutes
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Post by thevoid on Jan 17, 2021 11:51:45 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards. I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced. Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world....... Given the last 5 years we've had, we've been patient beyond the call of duty!
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Post by questionable on Jan 17, 2021 11:53:38 GMT
Interesting to see what kind of level he pops up at... I’m after a good roofer if he’s interested
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2021 11:54:47 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards. I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced. Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world....... The two real issues around this were; 1) he was sacked 8 months too late anyway. 2) the replacement was about the worst appointment we could have made. Lambert was beyond useless.
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Post by biglad180 on Jan 17, 2021 11:59:49 GMT
like it or not he bought some great players to our club. we had a very good team under him playing great football at times.
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Post by march4 on Jan 17, 2021 12:08:00 GMT
Vale need a manager
Hughes says he’s available.
Surely not ......
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Post by supersimonstainrod on Jan 17, 2021 12:16:16 GMT
Vale need a manager Hughes says he’s available. Surely not ...... Go get him Carol,the salary's not what he's accustomed to,but if Synectics Solutions throw in a year's free Internet protectection for when he's obsessing over the oatcake you might just clinch it.....
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Post by Olgrligm on Jan 17, 2021 12:18:53 GMT
May I mention that Hughes himself said in his reflection on the Liverpool 6-1 that he inherited a very strong spine and just added 'a bit of stardust' to what was already there?
There's no shame in it. It's not a criticism to say that he took over a very good core of players and identified how to push it on. It's just good management. You might even say that it was a lesson learned from QPR.
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Post by davejohnno1 on Jan 17, 2021 12:19:42 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards. I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced. Hindsight is great and as much as I agree with all of that his position had become untenable after that defeat to 4th tier Coventry City He was a fantastic manager who’d lost his way and I said it at the time that victory at Watford in the October previous was possibly our worst ever win and it just prolonged the agony In all honesty he should of gone in that final home match live on tv v Arsenal when only around 500 fans hung around for the lap of applause by the players The stadium was empty in those final 20 minutes He was sacked on the Friday before coventry and forced to take the team as part of his settlement. That result made zero difference to his future. He was gone after the newcastle defeat on NYD.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2021 12:22:25 GMT
like it or not he bought some great players to our club. we had a very good team under him playing great football at times. Easily the best manager the club has had in my lifetime.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 17, 2021 12:25:58 GMT
Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world....... Given the last 5 years we've had, we've been patient beyond the call of duty! Really? In the last couple of weeks MON has been pilloried. Despite the fact that his influence on the club has been nothing short of phenomenal.
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Post by ravey123 on Jan 17, 2021 12:26:52 GMT
Should have retired years ago. He's been sacked/paid up that many times I can't see that he needs the money - he will only manage again if he is bored with whatever he is doing right now.
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Post by foxysgloves on Jan 17, 2021 12:28:04 GMT
Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world....... The two real issues around this were; 1) he was sacked 8 months too late anyway. 2) the replacement was about the worst appointment we could have made. Lambert was beyond useless. 3. It’s a totally ridiculous proposition to suggest our supporters would have tolerated him not being sacked.
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Post by telfordstokie on Jan 17, 2021 12:31:08 GMT
In hindsight it would have been best to stick with him even if he'd have taken us down, he couldn't have done a worse job of what happened afterwards. I remember sitting in Frankie and Bennys at the Ricoh arena at 8pm being very pleased he got fired, now it seems as if my jubilation was misplaced. Sacking Hughes wasn’t the mistake (and should have been done much earlier if anything). The complete and utter failure to plan for replacing him when the writing had been on the wall for months was.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2021 12:31:16 GMT
The two real issues around this were; 1) he was sacked 8 months too late anyway. 2) the replacement was about the worst appointment we could have made. Lambert was beyond useless. 3. It’s a totally ridiculous proposition to suggest our supporters would have tolerated him not being sacked. Oh totally but he would have kept us up I think and that it total hindsight because I wanted him sacked for a good 12 months 😂 Always makes me laugh because people think I hated Hughes because I was one of the first to want him sacked (who wasn’t part of the vanguard for wanting him sacked because he wasn’t TP). But he is both my favourite and for me the best manager we’ve had in my lifetime that I can remember (so from about 95). I have zero loyalty to any of these fuckers and that’s where my views come from.
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Post by Deleted on Jan 17, 2021 12:51:34 GMT
Do ok if he inherits a good squad. Problems start when he needs to rebuild.
Did well for us with his cheaper signings but all his big money buys were a complete disaster apart from Shaq and have set us back years.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jan 17, 2021 13:01:19 GMT
Do ok if he inherits a good squad. Problems start when he needs to rebuild. Did well for us with his cheaper signings but all his big money buys were a complete disaster apart from Shaq and have set us back years. All comes back to the board bar Imbula though. All were avoidable if they sacked him when they should have done.
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Post by samba :) on Jan 17, 2021 13:02:01 GMT
Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world....... The two real issues around this were; 1) he was sacked 8 months too late anyway. 2) the replacement was about the worst appointment we could have made. Lambert was beyond useless. should of gone at some point the year before IMO, I think we would of gone down that season if arni hadn’t signed the new deal
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Post by cheadlestokie on Jan 17, 2021 13:07:54 GMT
Yeah and that would work because we have the most patient fans in the world....... The two real issues around this were; 1) he was sacked 8 months too late anyway. 2) the replacement was about the worst appointment we could have made. Lambert was beyond useless. I agree he was sacked far too late. It was clearly obvious his squad of players was a mess due to awful recruitment and it did appear he had lost interest. I don't quite agree with the Lambert comment as I feel any Manager coming in at that time needed a full 4 windows to try to at least put right the squad and the Owners should have backed Lambert in finding a striker who could have scored a few goals which would have kept is up. I think he had an impossible job.
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Post by riproaringagain on Jan 17, 2021 13:09:40 GMT
He fell because of the recruitment of bad players with even worse attitudes, ask the two after him who still couldn’t get a tune out most of them .if Kevin Wimmer was a choice for Hughes he should be horse whipped every day for the rest of his days
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