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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 7:50:29 GMT
In his wildest fantasies Gary Rowett wouldn’t have the managerial career Mark Hughes has had Really? Hughes had one massive gig at Man City, and a big gig at us. He was dreadful at QPR, failed at Wales, average at FulhamDecent at Blackburn, good at us before he woefully lost the plot. Where has Rowett massively failed in the same way as Hughes has? He’s doing a damn good job at Millwall, due to his lower player profile he was always going to need to take a team up, rather than be handed a top flight job. He’s younger than Pulis was when he took us up, and Pulis has had a damn site better managerial career than Hughes Kept QPR up, 8th with Fulham and qualified for Europe,I think they would see that as far from average. Took a Welsh team to the Euro play offs ,not too bad for a team with their ranking when he took over. Don't letthe facts cloud your judgement. Anyway, get well soon Rowett am sure we'll all agree
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2020 8:01:17 GMT
Give me Rowett over Hughes, Jones and Lambert any day Hughes is several times the manager Rowett is on his best day.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2020 8:05:23 GMT
This Rowett revisionism is really, really weird.
It was never just about Bojan. If he’d found room for any creativity or not been so crushingly, thumping it, stupidly negative, Bojan wouldn’t have become the cause celebre he did.
What actually happened was that he spunked the largest budget in the league on players who didn’t fit the system he wanted to play, tried to play it anyway, and tried to set up the favourites for promotion as plucky underdogs playing on the break. The majority of teams could comfortably do a number on us.
That and his charmless habit of chucking players under the bus and talking absolute nonsense (trying to claim he’d started with five attacking players when he really, really hadn’t) meant everyone got fed up of him really quickly.
He’s a decent manager of middling teams but the job was a mile too big for him.
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Post by werrington on Oct 24, 2020 8:10:30 GMT
I love it how people constantly quote the fees paid on failed players when we were premiership
£18m to a premiership club then was an average fee and is the equivalent of £4m when we first joined it ....Today it’s probably £23m
Players fail at every club on big contracts and fees paid ...its football
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Post by elystokie on Oct 24, 2020 8:13:42 GMT
This Rowett revisionism is really, really weird. It was never just about Bojan. If he’d found room for any creativity or not been so crushingly, thumping it, stupidly negative, Bojan wouldn’t have become the cause celebre he did. What actually happened was that he spunked the largest budget in the league on players who didn’t fit the system he wanted to play, tried to play it anyway, and tried to set up the favourites for promotion as plucky underdogs playing on the break. The majority of teams could comfortably do a number on us. That and his charmless habit of chucking players under the bus and talking absolute nonsense (trying to claim he’d started with five attacking players when he really, really hadn’t) meant everyone got fed up of him really quickly. He’s a decent manager of middling teams but the job was a mile too big for him. Exactly. If the football wasn't so shit the fans wouldn't have been clamouring for some creativity in Bojan and Rowett wouldn't have had the tantrum that cost him his job.
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Post by expectedtoulouse on Oct 24, 2020 8:14:06 GMT
This Rowett revisionism is really, really weird. It was never just about Bojan. If he’d found room for any creativity or not been so crushingly, thumping it, stupidly negative, Bojan wouldn’t have become the cause celebre he did. What actually happened was that he spunked the largest budget in the league on players who didn’t fit the system he wanted to play, tried to play it anyway, and tried to set up the favourites for promotion as plucky underdogs playing on the break. The majority of teams could comfortably do a number on us. That and his charmless habit of chucking players under the bus and talking absolute nonsense (trying to claim he’d started with five attacking players when he really, really hadn’t) meant everyone got fed up of him really quickly. He’s a decent manager of middling teams but the job was a mile too big for him. Spot on.
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Post by future100 on Oct 24, 2020 8:31:57 GMT
Give me Rowett over Hughes, Jones and Lambert any day As someone who has been going to watch Stoke since 1957 I can honestly say some of the best football I have seen was under Hughes.
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Post by Pedropotter on Oct 24, 2020 8:34:50 GMT
Give me Rowett over Hughes, Jones and Lambert any day Really? 3 9th prem finishes. Smashing Liverpool 6-1, Beating Chelsea 3-2. 3-0 at half against arsenal and winning 3-2. Beating Man City away. And yet you would swap it all for Rowett in charge. 50/60 odd million spent and couldn’t even treat us to 3 goals in one game (in a lower division) And we have a winner!
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Post by silsdenstokie on Oct 24, 2020 9:02:21 GMT
Don't feel any illwill towards Rowett...it was basically wrong club/wrong time...as has been mentioned at a club with like resources and little expectation he's a good manager...I hope he fully recovers
That said, no way is he a better manager than Hughes. Some blinkered memories where Hughes is concerned again on this thread
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Post by boskampsflaps on Oct 24, 2020 9:23:58 GMT
I don't hate Rowett tbh, if he hadn't decided to go to war with a fan favourite in the form of Bojan he'd probably still be our manager imo. Gotta say Bojan became a divisive figure for us, one of the reason MON has enjoyed such unity is he's never had to deal with that problem. I'm not convinced he would be, he spent a lot of money not to be in the top six.
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Post by lordb on Oct 24, 2020 10:17:59 GMT
In his wildest fantasies Gary Rowett wouldn’t have the managerial career Mark Hughes has had Really? Hughes had one massive gig at Man City, and a big gig at us. He was dreadful at QPR, failed at Wales, average at Fulham Decent at Blackburn, good at us before he woefully lost the plot. Where has Rowett massively failed in the same way as Hughes has? He’s doing a damn good job at Millwall, due to his lower player profile he was always going to need to take a team up, rather than be handed a top flight job. He’s younger than Pulis was when he took us up, and Pulis has had a damn site better managerial career than Hughes Finished 8th at Fulham in his one season there
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Post by terrorofturfmoor on Oct 24, 2020 10:20:25 GMT
Don't hate him as a person.... But as a football manager, I never wanted him at Stoke in the first place, I was so glad when he got the boot, especially after those Christmas games at Birmingham and Bolton!!!
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Oct 24, 2020 10:21:19 GMT
Really? Hughes had one massive gig at Man City, and a big gig at us. He was dreadful at QPR, failed at Wales, average at Fulham Decent at Blackburn, good at us before he woefully lost the plot. Where has Rowett massively failed in the same way as Hughes has? He’s doing a damn good job at Millwall, due to his lower player profile he was always going to need to take a team up, rather than be handed a top flight job. He’s younger than Pulis was when he took us up, and Pulis has had a damn site better managerial career than Hughes Finished 8th at Fulham in his one season there Ridiculous assertion that he ‘failed at Wales’ too. He was their most successful manager for some time.
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Post by Deleted on Oct 24, 2020 10:28:30 GMT
Finished 8th at Fulham in his one season there Ridiculous assertion that he ‘failed at Wales’ too. He was their most successful manager for some time. He didn’t win either major trophy. Complete failure.....
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Post by robwahlmann on Oct 24, 2020 11:34:17 GMT
Don't hate him as a person.... But as a football manager, I never wanted him at Stoke in the first place, I was so glad when he got the boot, especially after those Christmas games at Birmingham and Bolton!!! I really wanted him gone too, but little did I know about what was to come! A chest beating baboon was on his way, and he really turned out to be much worse!
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Post by stormin on Oct 24, 2020 16:08:52 GMT
I love it how people constantly quote the fees paid on failed players when we were premiership £18m to a premiership club then was an average fee and is the equivalent of £4m when we first joined it ....Today it’s probably £23m Players fail at every club on big contracts and fees paid ...its football
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Post by stormin on Oct 24, 2020 16:13:38 GMT
It isn't necessarily what we paid for players, the top players should have had resale value, Bournmouth, Norwich and Watford all have found buyers for their top players, Stoke couldn't even give them away.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 22, 2021 11:34:25 GMT
Ouch. Set us back another few years spunking £50m up the wall......
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Post by gingerninja on Oct 22, 2021 12:21:41 GMT
Horrific and damning reflection on an opportunity missed..
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Oct 22, 2021 12:21:51 GMT
Ouch. Set us back another few years spunking £50m up the wall...... What a spending run. Legends every one of them.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 22, 2021 12:40:48 GMT
I wouldn’t wish COVID-19 on anybody. I've had worse hangovers
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 22, 2021 12:42:23 GMT
Ouch. Set us back another few years spunking £50m up the wall...... What a spending run. Legends every one of them. What an absolute diabolical manager he is and I never understood for one second why he was given the job.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Oct 22, 2021 12:49:17 GMT
What a spending run. Legends every one of them. What an absolute diabolical manager he is and I never understood for one second why he was given the job. We didn't just give him the job we bought him.out of another one where he's run his course anyway
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Post by Gods on Oct 22, 2021 12:49:37 GMT
Get well soon Gary.
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Post by Gary Hackett on Oct 22, 2021 12:53:29 GMT
What an absolute diabolical manager he is and I never understood for one second why he was given the job. We didn't just give him the job we bought him.out of another one where he's run his course anyway Yeah, even more ridiculous. The bloke had done nothing in his managerial career yet we thought it was a great idea to give him 50m and pin our hopes on him getting us promoted. Baffling.
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 22, 2021 13:37:33 GMT
We didn't just give him the job we bought him.out of another one where he's run his course anyway Yeah, even more ridiculous. The bloke had done nothing in his managerial career yet we thought it was a great idea to give him 50m and pin our hopes on him getting us promoted. Baffling. You have JC and Scholsey to thank for that one.
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Post by sportsman on Oct 22, 2021 13:47:39 GMT
I wouldn’t wish COVID-19 on anybody. I've had worse hangovers Then you haven't had it
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Post by PotterLog on Oct 22, 2021 13:55:58 GMT
I wouldn’t wish COVID-19 on anybody. I've had worse hangovers Glad you're alright Jack
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Post by thevoid on Oct 22, 2021 14:50:01 GMT
My email said differently, Dr Sportsman
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Post by thevoid on Oct 22, 2021 14:50:09 GMT
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