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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 18, 2021 20:00:10 GMT
Fans of these clubs need to show their colours. I expect the tourists will still turn up at games but the hardcore should be outside the gates of their clubs tonight demanding them to withdraw. I hope the EFL and PL are busy demanding that the TV rights money for the current contract is taken away from them all. The fans organisations at all 6 clubs are firmly against.
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Post by Deleted on Apr 18, 2021 20:01:54 GMT
If it does find a way to go ahead it will be interesting to see if players put playing for they’re country ahead of more money after FIFA announced they could be potentially banned from international competition.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 18, 2021 20:02:52 GMT
Would the Premier league/fa have the powers to remove them from the english league? Yes, and their statement strongly hints that is what would happen. I was surprised and delighted to see that in there
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Post by spitthedog on Apr 18, 2021 20:03:23 GMT
Fans of these clubs need to show their colours. I expect the tourists will still turn up at games but the hardcore should be outside the gates of their clubs tonight demanding them to withdraw. I hope the EFL and PL are busy demanding that the TV rights money for the current contract is taken away from them all. The fans organisations at all 6 clubs are firmly against. Fans are firmly against it. This will show us clearly whether these club's owners (those who have effectively stolen these clubs) have any sense of loyalty to those fans. I'm not holding my breath.
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Post by Boothen on Apr 18, 2021 20:12:23 GMT
Would the Premier league/fa have the powers to remove them from the english league? They won't have to. They'd have to quit the Premier League in order to join this new 'league' as it breaches Premier League rules. Personally I couldn't care less if these greedy cunts want to fuck off, I'm just concerned about the impact this will have on the National team(s).
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 18, 2021 20:12:40 GMT
The fans organisations at all 6 clubs are firmly against. Fans are firmly against it. This will show us clearly whether these club's owners (those who have effectively stolen these clubs) have any sense of loyalty to those fans. I'm not holding my breath. They don't !
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Post by mickstupp on Apr 18, 2021 20:19:22 GMT
Fans are firmly against it. This will show us clearly whether these club's owners (those who have effectively stolen these clubs) have any sense of loyalty to those fans. I'm not holding my breath. They don't ! Surely they will if attendances and TV subscriptions are poor. Hitting these guys in the pocket is the only way to stop this. Money is the only language they know.
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Post by followyoudown on Apr 18, 2021 20:19:44 GMT
Clearly not a Super League when the likes of Arsenal and Spurs are included and PSG and Bayern Munich aren't. Full credit to PSG and Bayern for maintaining their integrity, hope that continues. Bayern for sure is a decision based on integrity, PSG lots of comments around the fact that as the broadcast deal is not with bein from qatar they are out, its also a reason sky are going in so hard they arent the broadcast partner.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 18, 2021 20:20:28 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 18, 2021 20:23:09 GMT
Foreign ownership and most of all the modern day football fan will love this.Twitter is full of dickheads loving the idea🙄
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Post by redstriper on Apr 18, 2021 20:31:58 GMT
I suspect most football fans are in two minds about this. On one hand, it's typically greedy, self-serving and money-grabbing stuff from clubs who are already guaranteed most of the riches in the game and you can understand the disgust. On the other, like me, I reckon millions will be perfectly happy to see them fuck off into their own tedious closed shop that the rest of us can ignore. The Prem, or whatever it ended up being called, (First Division has a nice ring to it), might become a bit more like the Championship, more egalitarian, where any team can beat any other team on their day by being just that bit better, like football used to be. All of this obviously depends on tv money first and foremost. Any football fan who wants it to fail should simply cancel their Sky/BT subscription. Any fan who had the interests of football at heart should have given Sky fuck all from the outset, but given where we are now it is indeed tempting to say they (the "big" six) can fuck off if they want - and give us our game back. At least we'd be back on a level playing field without them... anyone who thinks we have one at the moment should check out Arsenals "equaliser" today at Fulham. However, that would be a big blow to the genuine fans of the six, the families who have supported them for generations. Hopefully these people will win the day and reclaim their clubs from the money men.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Apr 18, 2021 20:43:09 GMT
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Post by swampmongrel on Apr 18, 2021 20:45:56 GMT
Happy to see that Sunderland aren’t getting involved in this tawdry affair.
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Post by mrcoke on Apr 18, 2021 20:49:13 GMT
ECA statement in full Here is that European Club Association (ECA) statement in full...
“In light of today’s reports on the subject of a so-called breakaway league, ECA as the body representing 246 leading clubs Europe, reiterates its states commitment to working on developing the Uefa Club Competitions model with Uefa for the cycle beginning 2024 and that a ‘closer super league model’ to which media articles refer would be strongly opposed by the ECA.
“ECA would refer to the position adopted by its executive board at its meeting last Friday April 16, namely that it supporters a commitment to work with Uefa on a renewed structure for European Club Football as a whole post 2024, including proposed changes to the Uefa Club Competition post 2024.
“With ECA’s support, Uefa’s executive committee is being asked to endorse these commitments at its meeting on April 19 along with pursuing efforts to reach an agreement on the future relationship between ECA and Uefa.
“The ECA Executive Board will be convening over the coming days to take appropriate decisions in light of any further developments.”
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Post by Boothen on Apr 18, 2021 20:50:19 GMT
If this does go ahead, what happens if all the England players at these clubs issue a joint statement where they refuse to play in this league as it means they'll no longer be able to play for their country?
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Post by mattador78 on Apr 18, 2021 20:58:10 GMT
If this does go ahead, what happens if all the England players at these clubs issue a joint statement where they refuse to play in this league as it means they'll no longer be able to play for their country? I would suppose it depends on their contracts with the club wether they could walk away without being in breach. Suppose a new league outside of fifa would need new contracts. Looking at it this is similar to the Neil Franklin scenario for them
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Post by wagsastokie on Apr 18, 2021 21:01:05 GMT
If this does go ahead, what happens if all the England players at these clubs issue a joint statement where they refuse to play in this league as it means they'll no longer be able to play for their country? And how many of them will actually do that Tear up there lucrative contracts just to play a handful of international games
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Post by cobhamstokey on Apr 18, 2021 21:02:08 GMT
Well said Rio. Magnificently put.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 18, 2021 21:07:45 GMT
Fans of these clubs need to show their colours. I expect the tourists will still turn up at games but the hardcore should be outside the gates of their clubs tonight demanding them to withdraw. I hope the EFL and PL are busy demanding that the TV rights money for the current contract is taken away from them all. The fans organisations at all 6 clubs are firmly against. Time for a root and branch review Malcolm, we need to get away from this crazy model and somehow give the fans and community a stronger voice like in Germany.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2021 21:10:15 GMT
The fans organisations at all 6 clubs are firmly against. Time for a root and branch review Malcolm, we need to get away from this crazy model and somehow give the fans and community a stronger voice like in Germany. It has to happen doesn’t it. It won’t but it has to.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 18, 2021 21:26:50 GMT
If this does go ahead, what happens if all the England players at these clubs issue a joint statement where they refuse to play in this league as it means they'll no longer be able to play for their country? I would suppose it depends on their contracts with the club wether they could walk away without being in breach. Suppose a new league outside of fifa would need new contracts. Looking at it this is similar to the Neil Franklin scenario for them The whole concept of player registration is to play in governing body mandated competitions. They don't have contracts with clubs to play in any other games nor does the super league have a registration yet. So I suspect they can all sit it out.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 18, 2021 21:34:59 GMT
The fans organisations at all 6 clubs are firmly against. Time for a root and branch review Malcolm, we need to get away from this crazy model and somehow give the fans and community a stronger voice like in Germany. Well the Government promised a "fan-led" review of football governance in its manifesto, and all the indications are that they are going ahead with that - indeed they recently advertised the post of the civil servant to co-ordinate it. I see that this evening the Secretary of State has condemned the fact that this proposal has had no fan consultation, and that the Prime Minister has come out against it, as has Kier Starmer and President Macron ! Over the years I have seen so many enquiries which have led to nothing that it's easy to be cynical about another one, but this time I think it might, just might, led to real change, because it's the kind of populist thing which might appeal to Boris. The so-called big 6 doing this, makes it more not less likely.
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Post by ab61 on Apr 18, 2021 21:35:35 GMT
You'd imagine Celtic and Rangers are praying for it to happen, ka'ching £££ 🤑 Am I missing something here. Why would they be praying for it to happen !?
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Post by Cns on Apr 18, 2021 21:35:36 GMT
The hypocrisy of sky taking the moral high ground is laughable.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 18, 2021 21:38:08 GMT
Would the Premier league/fa have the powers to remove them from the english league? Yes, and their statement strongly hints that is what would happen. I was surprised and delighted to see that in there It will ne interesting to see if Sky pays a fraction if the contract where those 6 are not playing. They are bound by the current franchise for only 1 more season. The timing is perfect the auction of UK broadcast rights for the 2022-25 seasons will begin later this year and is expected to be a contest between the current holders – Sky, BT and Amazon. Whatever happened it was going to be be less I expect. There are going to be massive casualties from top to bottom of the pyramid if it's not renewed at the expected figure.
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 18, 2021 21:43:28 GMT
I tried to think of a succinct post measured and diplomatic like something we see from Malcom and the announcements by the premier league and the other leagues and UEFA’s stance. However I couldn’t so I will respond with this as my comment. Wankers!! Fuck off don’t come back and I hope of you do fuck off all your players leave and you have to fold, or come back begging for a place in your old leagues only to be told fuck off your not needed. The emotion and the sentiment are very understandable. But we must also think about the fans of those clubs. They, and their parents and grandparents, were supporting those clubs - great historic clubs which have long been part of the fabric of the english football pyramid - long before their present owners, who have no understanding of that tradition, were anywhere near them. Those fans don't want this and they deserve better.
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Post by danceswithclams on Apr 18, 2021 21:44:41 GMT
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Post by Malcolm Clarke on Apr 18, 2021 21:48:43 GMT
I've just done my radio 5 piece. I'm on Sky News at 8.40 in the morning if anyone who gets sky is interested.
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Post by andystokey on Apr 18, 2021 21:51:45 GMT
That's a lot of leverage on governments, UEFA and broadcasting to get their voices heard isn't it?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Apr 18, 2021 22:01:45 GMT
That's a lot of leverage on governments, UEFA and broadcasting to get their voices heard isn't it? In what sense?
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