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Post by The battheader chronicles on Oct 28, 2020 21:16:24 GMT
Bought my first pack of cigs in months today. It's been one of those weeks (so far) 🥴 Don’t be too harsh on yourself, think loads of people myself included are smoking more in the current situation
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 28, 2020 21:33:31 GMT
Bought my first pack of cigs in months today. It's been one of those weeks (so far) 🥴 Don’t be too harsh on yourself, think loads of people myself included are smoking more in the current situation Im smoking again on the odd day. Sometimes you just have to say fuck it I’ll do what I want today😀
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Post by clarkeda on Oct 28, 2020 21:51:15 GMT
Bought my first pack of cigs in months today. It's been one of those weeks (so far) 🥴 If it beats the alternative it’s a good decision. All about perspective. I personally don’t advocate smoking ( never tried and never will) but if it stops some dark thoughts, self harm or worse. I’m all for it.
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Post by elystokie on Oct 28, 2020 22:18:38 GMT
Staying inside day after day can't be helpful (if that's what's happening) If running isn't for you then just going for a walk for half an hour will do the world of good IMHO - I found a few small parks and wildlife areas near me that I didn't know existed and we've found that getting some fresh air a few times a week has really helped. Where are the nice parks around Stoke-on-Trent? As a whole its a shite hole. I work in the week so weekends are usually the worst. Hanley Park is excellent, just had 6 million quid spent on it. Parkhall is stunning at the moment with all the different colours of the trees and other vegetation, I'm up there with my mate's dog most days, we walked about 6 or 7 miles up there today. Barlaston Downs is another great place, even Hanley Forest Park is pretty good if you don't want to venture too far out of town.
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Post by Orbs on Oct 28, 2020 22:26:39 GMT
Where are the nice parks around Stoke-on-Trent? As a whole its a shite hole. I work in the week so weekends are usually the worst. Hanley Park is excellent, just had 6 million quid spent on it. Parkhall is stunning at the moment with all the different colours of the trees and other vegetation, I'm up there with my mate's dog most days, we walked about 6 or 7 miles up there today. Barlaston Downs is another great place, even Hanley Forest Park is pretty good if you don't want to venture too far out of town. I’ve heard dogging on Parkhall is pretty stunning 👍🏻
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 28, 2020 22:27:18 GMT
Hanley Park is excellent, just had 6 million quid spent on it. Parkhall is stunning at the moment with all the different colours of the trees and other vegetation, I'm up there with my mate's dog most days, we walked about 6 or 7 miles up there today. Barlaston Downs is another great place, even Hanley Forest Park is pretty good if you don't want to venture too far out of town. I’ve heard dogging on Parkhall is pretty stunning 👍🏻 Collymores new manor so I believe👀
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Post by elystokie on Oct 28, 2020 22:28:52 GMT
Hanley Park is excellent, just had 6 million quid spent on it. Parkhall is stunning at the moment with all the different colours of the trees and other vegetation, I'm up there with my mate's dog most days, we walked about 6 or 7 miles up there today. Barlaston Downs is another great place, even Hanley Forest Park is pretty good if you don't want to venture too far out of town. I’ve heard dogging on Parkhall is pretty stunning 👍🏻 So have I but I've yet to give it a go, tends to happen of an evening apparently, I have enough bother keeping hold of the dog when it's light
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Post by Bojan Mackey on Oct 28, 2020 23:38:13 GMT
Last night was tough for me. Read a comment about a highly charged political issue (abortion) that pissed me off, as so many comments do. Normally I would shrug off. But this time it got to me. Then the bad thoughts spiraled, and by the time I got to bed around 5 hours later, I had mild thoughts of self harm. My self harm methods were never dangerous, just pricking my leg repeatedly with a needle. But I'm scared that I had those thoughts at all. I'm grateful for this board because it provides a way to be candid with mental health problems anonymously. I feel it mate. Orbs bumped this thread after I posted on the drinking thread and not been back since so here goes... I hit the wall about 6 weeks ago, it had been building for about 6 months, marriage break up, dealing with our little boy and having to leave our family home of 8 years brought back a traumatic childhood experience with depression and uncontrollable anxiety attacks. I did see a therapist which helped, but too expensive to continue with and I have no one really to talk to about this kind of thing apart from the wife (ex wife but luckily we get on well). NAT's (NEGATIVE AUTOMATIC THOUGHTS) overtook me, there was no way out, my future was non existent and I was fucked. No one would know, I went about my business and put on a front for my lad so he would not be affected. But on my own it was dark, drinking heavily (always been an able drinker anyway!) on my own until one night I found myself on the front room floor, stabbing my arms with a kitchen knife. Fucking hell I'm a normal bloke, a father with a good job and 3 houses. That was my moment I had to change for myself, no one else can do it for you I'm afraid. I decided to go day by day, I know its a cliche but if you think too far ahead its impossible, just plan 1 day and have some simple goals. Mine is usually 1. No drink 2. A work goal 3. One form of exercise 4. Contact someone (usually messages) Then at the end of the day pat yourself on the back and plan the next. It works for me at the moment. My darkness is only a whisker away I can feel it all the time, but just changing a few habits keeps it at bay for me. Thinking what I was trying to do with that knife scares the fuck out of me to be honest, truly embarrassed. Anyway, maybe this will help someone, positive thoughts and actions are the key although not always easy. Good luck, and Up the Mighty Potters. Jesus fuck. You’ve no idea of the mental fortitude it’s taken to drag yourself out of that one, that can be your daily motivation on its own, I’m proud of you. It’s terrifying where your mind can lead you, some of the intrusive thoughts I get have genuinely made me want to roll into a ball and burst into tears, but because I’m so desensitised to it now I just sort of sit there with all the acceptance of a house fly that’s about to be twatted with a slipper. Keep to that routine religiously, for me routine is a key part of maintaining some form of normality and gives me enough juice to fight back the grey days. I’m not going to say it’s going to get any easier, you know yourself that’s a lie we tell ourselves, but it can become manageable to a point where it remains firmly in the background, and don’t feel down by the bad days, it doesn’t mean failure, and it doesn’t mean weakness, depression is an illness not a mood, I still don’t think people realise this, you are allowed to have bad days, we’re human it’s normal, and it makes you feel so much better when you make peace with this. Stay strong mate, fighting your own brain every single day takes strength no athlete could train for.
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Post by thevoid on Oct 29, 2020 4:38:28 GMT
I wouldn't say my problem's depression per se, the issue is my mind works overtime and I worry about daft stuff that seems a bigger deal than it is, especially when I've got 'time to think' which I have plenty of right now. When I'm not worrying, I feel like I should be as some intrusive thought pops in there- I'm not sure if my problem is more OCD. For example, I'll panic if an app or photo on my phone is in the wrong folder! Likewise, I can be watching TV and then I'll just get an urge to pick my phone up and rearrange songs on my playlists. For no reason. And if I'm interrupted I get irritated. Organising things into lists, folders and sub folders is my bugbear but it makes me feel in control. Pathetic and anal really 🙄 I'd love to be able to 'flick a switch' and stop thinking this shit. Word of advice though- try and avoid pills unless you really need them. Otherwise, kiss your sex drive goodbye.
Has anyone tried cognitive therapy?
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Post by Los Alfareros on Oct 29, 2020 12:41:20 GMT
I feel it mate. Orbs bumped this thread after I posted on the drinking thread and not been back since so here goes... I hit the wall about 6 weeks ago, it had been building for about 6 months, marriage break up, dealing with our little boy and having to leave our family home of 8 years brought back a traumatic childhood experience with depression and uncontrollable anxiety attacks. I did see a therapist which helped, but too expensive to continue with and I have no one really to talk to about this kind of thing apart from the wife (ex wife but luckily we get on well). NAT's (NEGATIVE AUTOMATIC THOUGHTS) overtook me, there was no way out, my future was non existent and I was fucked. No one would know, I went about my business and put on a front for my lad so he would not be affected. But on my own it was dark, drinking heavily (always been an able drinker anyway!) on my own until one night I found myself on the front room floor, stabbing my arms with a kitchen knife. Fucking hell I'm a normal bloke, a father with a good job and 3 houses. That was my moment I had to change for myself, no one else can do it for you I'm afraid. I decided to go day by day, I know its a cliche but if you think too far ahead its impossible, just plan 1 day and have some simple goals. Mine is usually 1. No drink 2. A work goal 3. One form of exercise 4. Contact someone (usually messages) Then at the end of the day pat yourself on the back and plan the next. It works for me at the moment. My darkness is only a whisker away I can feel it all the time, but just changing a few habits keeps it at bay for me. Thinking what I was trying to do with that knife scares the fuck out of me to be honest, truly embarrassed. Anyway, maybe this will help someone, positive thoughts and actions are the key although not always easy. Good luck, and Up the Mighty Potters. Jesus fuck. You’ve no idea of the mental fortitude it’s taken to drag yourself out of that one, that can be your daily motivation on its own, I’m proud of you. It’s terrifying where your mind can lead you, some of the intrusive thoughts I get have genuinely made me want to roll into a ball and burst into tears, but because I’m so desensitised to it now I just sort of sit there with all the acceptance of a house fly that’s about to be twatted with a slipper. Keep to that routine religiously, for me routine is a key part of maintaining some form of normality and gives me enough juice to fight back the grey days. I’m not going to say it’s going to get any easier, you know yourself that’s a lie we tell ourselves, but it can become manageable to a point where it remains firmly in the background, and don’t feel down by the bad days, it doesn’t mean failure, and it doesn’t mean weakness, depression is an illness not a mood, I still don’t think people realise this, you are allowed to have bad days, we’re human it’s normal, and it makes you feel so much better when you make peace with this. Stay strong mate, fighting your own brain every single day takes strength no athlete could train for. Thanks mate. Yeah you are spot on, in a way I feel lucky that I sort of understand myself, god knows how someone can cope with this if they don't know whats going on, as I suspect younger people would feel. I cannot fight my thoughts, but I can in a way box them up and manage them to a certain extent by doing what I am doing and following my plan. Hope you doin OK pal.
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Post by Orbs on Oct 30, 2020 22:32:58 GMT
If you text ‘SHOUT’ to 85258 when you are in a dark place or suicidal, a trained crisis volunteer will text you back. This is great If you find talking on the phone challenging. It’s completely free. Please RT you never know who might need this support.
Just read this on twitter. Cracking idea.
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Post by pricey21 on Nov 3, 2020 17:09:22 GMT
It's all gone downhill. Does anyone have any tips to get out of this hole? I get no enjoyment out of my life and honestly don't want to be here. I aren't going to harm myself because I haven't got the guts to do that but if someone had a gun to my head I wouldn't be that bothered. Constantly breaking down at home. Always feel alone because I live alone and never get much conversation out of anyone plus I've been put on a job this week where I'm on my own so there's no one to talk to there. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried counselling, exercise etc and nothing seems to work. I'm clearly not OK.
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 3, 2020 18:23:11 GMT
It's all gone downhill. Does anyone have any tips to get out of this hole? I get no enjoyment out of my life and honestly don't want to be here. I aren't going to harm myself because I haven't got the guts to do that but if someone had a gun to my head I wouldn't be that bothered. Constantly breaking down at home. Always feel alone because I live alone and never get much conversation out of anyone plus I've been put on a job this week where I'm on my own so there's no one to talk to there. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried counselling, exercise etc and nothing seems to work. I'm clearly not OK. What about getting a dog? I know sweet FA about mental health but maybe a companion might help. It's a bit of a simple idea but a dog is better than a wife... and they always give you attention when you get in from work.
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Post by Orbs on Nov 3, 2020 18:34:39 GMT
It's all gone downhill. Does anyone have any tips to get out of this hole? I get no enjoyment out of my life and honestly don't want to be here. I aren't going to harm myself because I haven't got the guts to do that but if someone had a gun to my head I wouldn't be that bothered. Constantly breaking down at home. Always feel alone because I live alone and never get much conversation out of anyone plus I've been put on a job this week where I'm on my own so there's no one to talk to there. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried counselling, exercise etc and nothing seems to work. I'm clearly not OK. Fuck. First of all well done for recognising there is an issue and for the having the balls to type it on here. I know its anonymous but even so I'd say that's a massive step to take. If you've tried the usual routes of exercise and counselling then there are plenty of alternative links on this thread to try. Just because the counselling didn't help previously then maybe the Samaritans/Macari Centre/Mac at Hanley Town or the SHOUT one above could be an avenue to explore? It's going to be even trickier over the next couple of weeks plus its dark. However, it's important to remember it's not going to last forever. Could you ask the boss that next week you aren't put on a job on your own? I haven't got a dog so know fuck all about that sorry! The Hanley Town link is @macmenunite on twitter.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 3, 2020 18:47:52 GMT
It's all gone downhill. Does anyone have any tips to get out of this hole? I get no enjoyment out of my life and honestly don't want to be here. I aren't going to harm myself because I haven't got the guts to do that but if someone had a gun to my head I wouldn't be that bothered. Constantly breaking down at home. Always feel alone because I live alone and never get much conversation out of anyone plus I've been put on a job this week where I'm on my own so there's no one to talk to there. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried counselling, exercise etc and nothing seems to work. I'm clearly not OK. If you don’t mind me asking, what is the friends and family situation? Are there people you can talk to close to you? (You may feel embarrassed to do this) but if you do have a support network it’s worth talking to these people. I have a friend in a similar situation to yourself and he’s kept it bottled up for months, I’d noticed he wasn’t himself at all and he let it all out after I constantly “badgered” him about it. We now regularly call each other for chats and that’s helped him open up to other people who had no idea what he was going through. It’s really improved his self esteem to know people care about him, the thing is everybody has their own lives and fail to notice the signs sometimes but if you can just talk to somebody as a starting point it’ll give you confidence to get talking to others. Who knows there might be people you know who are in the same boat. Don’t keep it to yourself mate, it’s the worst thing to do.
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Post by pricey21 on Nov 3, 2020 18:55:44 GMT
It's all gone downhill. Does anyone have any tips to get out of this hole? I get no enjoyment out of my life and honestly don't want to be here. I aren't going to harm myself because I haven't got the guts to do that but if someone had a gun to my head I wouldn't be that bothered. Constantly breaking down at home. Always feel alone because I live alone and never get much conversation out of anyone plus I've been put on a job this week where I'm on my own so there's no one to talk to there. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried counselling, exercise etc and nothing seems to work. I'm clearly not OK. If you don’t mind me asking, what is the friends and family situation? Are there people you can talk to close to you? (You may feel embarrassed to do this) but if you do have a support network it’s worth talking to these people. I have a friend in a similar situation to yourself and he’s kept it bottled up for months, I’d noticed he wasn’t himself at all and he let it all out after I constantly “badgered” him about it. We now regularly call each other for chats and that’s helped him open up to other people who had no idea what he was going through. It’s really improved his self esteem to know people care about him, the thing is everybody has their own lives and fail to notice the signs sometimes but if you can just talk to somebody as a starting point it’ll give you confidence to get talking to others. Who knows there might be people you know who are in the same boat. Don’t keep it to yourself mate, it’s the worst thing to do. I have family to talk to but to be fair they don't really know what to say. I haven't fully been open with them though to be honest. I don't really have many friends to talk to and not many people even understand so what's the point? I'm not really a fan of dogs so don't want to go down that route.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 3, 2020 19:34:55 GMT
If you don’t mind me asking, what is the friends and family situation? Are there people you can talk to close to you? (You may feel embarrassed to do this) but if you do have a support network it’s worth talking to these people. I have a friend in a similar situation to yourself and he’s kept it bottled up for months, I’d noticed he wasn’t himself at all and he let it all out after I constantly “badgered” him about it. We now regularly call each other for chats and that’s helped him open up to other people who had no idea what he was going through. It’s really improved his self esteem to know people care about him, the thing is everybody has their own lives and fail to notice the signs sometimes but if you can just talk to somebody as a starting point it’ll give you confidence to get talking to others. Who knows there might be people you know who are in the same boat. Don’t keep it to yourself mate, it’s the worst thing to do. I have family to talk to but to be fair they don't really know what to say. I haven't fully been open with them though to be honest. I don't really have many friends to talk to and not many people even understand so what's the point? I'm not really a fan of dogs so don't want to go down that route. What’s the point? Is precisely the attitude that gets us deeper into this mess. You need to make people realise you are having a tough time, they will understand, I get the feeling you’re telling half the story and that’s to be expected but when you’re talking about not wanting to live it’s time to take action. You will be amazed at the response once people know the full story. I know it’s a cliche but now more than ever people need to stay in touch and help each other. On that subject I found that when I was low, which happens often, I decided I was going to go and offer help to the older members of my family who are struggling at the moment and that made me feel better straight away knowing I’d helped somebody in need. Dogs? Not for me and I don’t agree with single people having dogs who work full time. I once bought two cats when I was single, can leave em to their own devices all day and contrary to popular belief they do have loyalty and make a fuss of me when I’ve been out. Still got em 8 years on and wouldn’t be without em.
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Post by Orbs on Nov 3, 2020 19:53:14 GMT
Just checked and the twitter page is @_menunite 'You are not weak if you speak' and menunite.org on the internet.
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Post by felonious on Nov 3, 2020 20:09:27 GMT
I have family to talk to but to be fair they don't really know what to say. I haven't fully been open with them though to be honest. I don't really have many friends to talk to and not many people even understand so what's the point? I'm not really a fan of dogs so don't want to go down that route. What’s the point? Is precisely the attitude that gets us deeper into this mess. You need to make people realise you are having a tough time, they will understand, I get the feeling you’re telling half the story and that’s to be expected but when you’re talking about not wanting to live it’s time to take action. You will be amazed at the response once people know the full story. I know it’s a cliche but now more than ever people need to stay in touch and help each other. On that subject I found that when I was low, which happens often, I decided I was going to go and offer help to the older members of my family who are struggling at the moment and that made me feel better straight away knowing I’d helped somebody in need. Dogs? Not for me and I don’t agree with single people having dogs who work full time. I once bought two cats when I was single, can leave em to their own devices all day and contrary to popular belief they do have loyalty and make a fuss of me when I’ve been out. Still got em 8 years on and wouldn’t be without em. Just to slightly contradict you on dogs whilst I believe you are correct about having dogs and going out to work I believe that if you get a rescue dog it's going to have a much better life than living in a kennel. It's the route we went down 30 years ago when I refused to get a puppy 30 years ago. In respect of your suggestion a dog is a great idea for three main reasons. You will have to get out twice a day, you will find that other dog walkers will acknowledge and talk to you* and you'll meet the same people on a regular basis and finally you'll get absolute devotion from a dog, they're priceless company. * Be prepared to ignore the people who scowl at you because you've got a germ on the end of a lead like Northy
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Post by felonious on Nov 3, 2020 20:12:18 GMT
Hanley Park is excellent, just had 6 million quid spent on it. Parkhall is stunning at the moment with all the different colours of the trees and other vegetation, I'm up there with my mate's dog most days, we walked about 6 or 7 miles up there today. Barlaston Downs is another great place, even Hanley Forest Park is pretty good if you don't want to venture too far out of town. I’ve heard dogging on Parkhall is pretty stunning 👍🏻 Sorry to lower the tone even further duck
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Nov 3, 2020 20:26:21 GMT
What’s the point? Is precisely the attitude that gets us deeper into this mess. You need to make people realise you are having a tough time, they will understand, I get the feeling you’re telling half the story and that’s to be expected but when you’re talking about not wanting to live it’s time to take action. You will be amazed at the response once people know the full story. I know it’s a cliche but now more than ever people need to stay in touch and help each other. On that subject I found that when I was low, which happens often, I decided I was going to go and offer help to the older members of my family who are struggling at the moment and that made me feel better straight away knowing I’d helped somebody in need. Dogs? Not for me and I don’t agree with single people having dogs who work full time. I once bought two cats when I was single, can leave em to their own devices all day and contrary to popular belief they do have loyalty and make a fuss of me when I’ve been out. Still got em 8 years on and wouldn’t be without em. Just to slightly contradict you on dogs whilst I believe you are correct about having dogs and going out to work I believe that if you get a rescue dog it's going to have a much better life than living in a kennel. It's the route we went down 30 years ago when I refused to get a puppy 30 years ago. In respect of your suggestion a dog is a great idea for three main reasons. You will have to get out twice a day, you will find that other dog walkers will acknowledge and talk to you* and you'll meet the same people on a regular basis and finally you'll get absolute devotion from a dog, they're priceless company. * Be prepared to ignore the people who scowl at you because you've got a germ on the end of a lead like Northy I understand your points and definitely better to get a rescue dog in this instance. It’s a tough one, I love dogs, more specifically whippets but I felt like I couldn’t leave them alone all day so went the cat route. I couldn’t possible comment on Northys germ 😀
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Post by felonious on Nov 3, 2020 20:30:30 GMT
Just to slightly contradict you on dogs whilst I believe you are correct about having dogs and going out to work I believe that if you get a rescue dog it's going to have a much better life than living in a kennel. It's the route we went down 30 years ago when I refused to get a puppy 30 years ago. In respect of your suggestion a dog is a great idea for three main reasons. You will have to get out twice a day, you will find that other dog walkers will acknowledge and talk to you* and you'll meet the same people on a regular basis and finally you'll get absolute devotion from a dog, they're priceless company. * Be prepared to ignore the people who scowl at you because you've got a germ on the end of a lead like Northy I understand your points and definitely better to get a rescue dog in this instance. It’s a tough one, I love dogs, more specifically whippets but I felt like I couldn’t leave them alone all day so went the cat route. I couldn’t possible comment on Northys germ 😀 Whippets are ace and great with kids..... unfortunately it's soul destroying to go out with one for a run as I know from bitter experience
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Post by thisisouryear on Nov 3, 2020 22:31:06 GMT
What’s the point? Is precisely the attitude that gets us deeper into this mess. You need to make people realise you are having a tough time, they will understand, I get the feeling you’re telling half the story and that’s to be expected but when you’re talking about not wanting to live it’s time to take action. You will be amazed at the response once people know the full story. I know it’s a cliche but now more than ever people need to stay in touch and help each other. On that subject I found that when I was low, which happens often, I decided I was going to go and offer help to the older members of my family who are struggling at the moment and that made me feel better straight away knowing I’d helped somebody in need. Dogs? Not for me and I don’t agree with single people having dogs who work full time. I once bought two cats when I was single, can leave em to their own devices all day and contrary to popular belief they do have loyalty and make a fuss of me when I’ve been out. Still got em 8 years on and wouldn’t be without em. Just to slightly contradict you on dogs whilst I believe you are correct about having dogs and going out to work I believe that if you get a rescue dog it's going to have a much better life than living in a kennel. It's the route we went down 30 years ago when I refused to get a puppy 30 years ago. In respect of your suggestion a dog is a great idea for three main reasons. You will have to get out twice a day, you will find that other dog walkers will acknowledge and talk to you* and you'll meet the same people on a regular basis and finally you'll get absolute devotion from a dog, they're priceless company. * Be prepared to ignore the people who scowl at you because you've got a germ on the end of a lead like Northy When I go out with our dog, nearly everyone with a dog speaks as you pass and some stop to talk to you for a few minutes. It's like it's own little community for some.
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Post by muggleton on Nov 4, 2020 18:03:06 GMT
It's all gone downhill. Does anyone have any tips to get out of this hole? I get no enjoyment out of my life and honestly don't want to be here. I aren't going to harm myself because I haven't got the guts to do that but if someone had a gun to my head I wouldn't be that bothered. Constantly breaking down at home. Always feel alone because I live alone and never get much conversation out of anyone plus I've been put on a job this week where I'm on my own so there's no one to talk to there. I just don't know what to do anymore. I've tried counselling, exercise etc and nothing seems to work. I'm clearly not OK. Take care mate. First stop should be your doctor I'd say. Speak openly and consider all the options available. I've been on antidepressants in the past, and they were a great help at the time to steady the ship and get me some head space. Not for everyone and I was glad to get off them in the end (2 years later maybe), but for they got me to the position where I no longer need them. But take the advice of a medical professional above my anecdotal bollocks. Small steps work for me when I'm struggling - getting out for a walk and home for a square meal (some relatively wholesome comfort food is best), fresh bedlinen and a box set, podcast or book. All aimed at making some progress today and going again tomorrow. I know you've tried exercise and it hasn't worked in the past, but it's certainly never made feel any worse, and if nothing else might help you sleep.
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Post by Orbs on Nov 10, 2020 20:34:25 GMT
We'll be with you - Chloe JonesWe'll be with youmenuniteBravo to the club for promoting mental health on their twitter page Menunite and Hanley Town are also worth checking out - they doing some great work in the local community and supporting mens' mental health in particular. It's OK to not be OK. You are not weak if you speak.
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Post by Orbs on Nov 25, 2020 15:04:04 GMT
Just bumping this in case any folk need some help. Plenty of links on the thread. I found this link earlier, specifically for Stoke and Staffordshire. linkCould a good place to start? PMs always available if anyone wants a chat.
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Post by harryburrows on Nov 25, 2020 15:10:14 GMT
Just bumping this in case any folk need some help. Plenty of links on the thread. I found this link earlier, specifically for Stoke and Staffordshire. linkCould a good place to start? PMs always available if anyone wants a chat. I think Mary berry is living on the edge at present
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Post by felonious on Nov 25, 2020 15:56:15 GMT
Just bumping this in case any folk need some help. Plenty of links on the thread. I found this link earlier, specifically for Stoke and Staffordshire. linkCould a good place to start? PMs always available if anyone wants a chat. I think Mary berry is living on the edge at present When you take the trouble to list the mates she's got it's no real surprise..... sometimes it's just down to the company you keep
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Post by Orbs on Nov 25, 2020 16:51:52 GMT
I think Mary berry is living on the edge at present When you take the trouble to list the mates she's got it's no real surprise..... sometimes it's just down to the company you keep I'm keeping my eye on him don't fret
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Post by clarkeda on Dec 1, 2020 7:10:02 GMT
How’s everyone holding up?
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