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Wimmer
Jun 5, 2021 23:52:29 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 5, 2021 23:52:29 GMT
Maybe your facts. My brother was a season ticket holder at Fulham at the time. He laughed out loud when Hughes came to Stoke. The manager that took Fulham to 8th in the Prem and Europe in his one season ? Well they've moved on from that
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Wimmer
Jun 5, 2021 23:58:07 GMT
Post by Sfance on Jun 5, 2021 23:58:07 GMT
As have we.
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Post by PotterLog on Jun 6, 2021 0:56:21 GMT
Maybe your facts. My brother was a season ticket holder at Fulham at the time. He laughed out loud when Hughes came to Stoke. The manager that took Fulham to 8th in the Prem and Europe in his one season ? Well they've moved on from that “Yeah you’re getting a manager who got us to 8th in the Prem and will get you to 9th three times in a row LOL!”
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Post by Absolution on Jun 6, 2021 1:33:09 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did.
None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively.
All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is.
Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time.
In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City.
I could honestly weep.
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Jun 6, 2021 9:02:36 GMT
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Post by metalhead on Jun 6, 2021 9:02:36 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did. None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively. All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is. Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time. In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as a Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City. I could honestly weep. When you put it like that
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Wimmer
Jun 6, 2021 12:36:30 GMT
Post by iglugluk on Jun 6, 2021 12:36:30 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did. None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively. All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is. Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time. In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City. I could honestly weep. Good summation of our woes
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Jun 6, 2021 12:49:50 GMT
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Post by Marc01 on Jun 6, 2021 12:49:50 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did. None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively. All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is. Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time. In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City. I could honestly weep. What happened with Durban?
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Jun 6, 2021 13:00:17 GMT
Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2021 13:00:17 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did. None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively. All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is. Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time. In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City. I could honestly weep. What happened with Durban? To be fair we went from a dull lower league team to respected Premiership in quicker time. Plenty of rubbish before Assaidi etc. Wouldn't say splashing huge money on Wimmer was typically Stoke as never happened before. Was a dreadful signing and history now. we didn't force Durban out just poorly handled internally.
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Jun 6, 2021 13:21:24 GMT
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Post by greenhoff on Jun 6, 2021 13:21:24 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did. None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively. All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is. Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time. In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City. I could honestly weep. If you dont replace a crumbling spine nothing else works. He replaced bone with jellyfish and the whole thing collapsed.
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Post by AlliG on Jun 7, 2021 11:16:02 GMT
I loved the Mark Hughes years, and I’m still gutted that we let everything go in the way we did. None of us on here know what really went on and how we went from giving Man City a footballing lesson to becoming a footballing joke in the space of just 2 or 3 months, but something changed massively. All I know is that I saw Hughes building something really sensational, then all of a sudden we turned to utter shit almost overnight. Someone, somewhere knows exactly why this happened, and as with everything in this lying, deceitful world we’re suddenly discovering ourselves in, you just know we’re never, ever going to find out what the truth of it all is. Players like Butland and Adam have made noises suggesting there’s a tale to be told, but neither of them seem to want to commit to telling the real story. But there’s a definite story to be told as to how we went from a proud revitalised club to a snivelling wreckage in the blink of an eye. Hughes played a big part in both these parts of our history, but there’s something lurking underneath that will take a hell of a lot of uncovering to explain how the manager who looked like he could do no wrong suddenly fucked literally everything up in double quick time. In fairness, anyone who saw World War 2 destroy our league title ambitions, anyone who saw Matthews leave us at the point of greatness, anyone who saw the stand get blown down in the 70s, anyone who saw how the club forced Durban out, anyone who saw Barker’s ridiculous conversion to anti-football, anyone who saw Macari and Stein leave us within a week of each other, anyone who saw us go from Assaidiiiii!!! v Chelsea to Vokes lumbering round aimlessly v anyone you like, and anyone who saw us spaff the Arnie money on the fat bap otherwise known as Wimmer, will see the whole Hughes episode as being just very, very typically Stoke City. I could honestly weep. What happened with Durban? We let his contract run down, so that he assumed we weren't really interested in keeping him.
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Jun 25, 2021 13:10:07 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Jun 25, 2021 13:10:07 GMT
www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/interview/kevin-wimmers-rapid-transfer-als-erloesung---das-war-wahnsinn-/LAOLA1: You were abroad for a long time, things didn't go as planned everywhere. Was the decision in favor of Rapid also a wish to go to Konstanz, to go to Austria and play a leading role again?Wimmer: Definitely! After my contract with Stoke, with all the loans that went with it, nothing better could have happened to me with Rapid. My contract would have run for another year, and I really wanted to terminate it in order to be able to finally close the chapter. It's a very good feeling that I have now signed a fixed-term contract for two years. Not like in the past where I was awarded after preparation, but knew that after one season I would go back to Stoke. It's good to know that now I'm a Rapid player and not a loan player like in previous years. It's a very reassuring feeling, it allows you to concentrate and focus even more on what's important, because I'll be playing here next year too. LAOLA1: Weren't other offers attractive in your current situation and at this crossroads in your career?Wimmer: When Rapid came, it was clear to me that I wanted to do that. It came about relatively late at the end of the season, so I was relatively in agreement with Karlsruhe before that. I also felt comfortable there. But when Rapid asked, I didn't have to think about it much longer. LAOLA1: You have taken something with you or learned something from many clubs, you are not very good at speaking at Stoke. What went wrong there?Wimmer: I moved from Tottenham to Stoke because coach Mark Hughes really wanted me. You could see that in the transfer fee (note: rumored 20 million euros). For the first six months I played almost every game, but it all started with the change of coach. From one day to the next I wasn't on the bench in the second half of the season, just in the stands - that was amazing. How can you deal with players that you get for a lot of money? Nothing was ever said, only that I train well and my chance will come. That was very unsatisfactory. But it is difficult to help yourself, you can only train and hope for improvement. Then I was on loan. Every time I came back, a new coach was there for a long time. Preparation has started and on the first day I was told that I wasn't even training for the first team and that I could look for a new club - that affected other players as well. But it's amazing who plays in the championship and how they play - and you don't get a chance yourself. LAOLA1: If you spend 20 million on a player like you, you have certainly seen great potential. How did this break come about?
Wimmer: That was funny, it was never explained to me. So it was very nice that I was able to terminate the contract and now know that I don't have to go back. When you go through your head how they treated me and others and what went on there, you don't have to wonder where they are now. I don't know who ultimately decided that, but it was amazing that it was actually over for me after only six months with a five-year contract. We weren't on a relegation zone, the new coach won one of 15 games and you still don't get a chance - it was very questionable to watch your team lose and concede a lot of goals every week as a defender. But still nothing has changed. LAOLA1: I visited you in Cologne in 2012, that was the starting shot for your career abroad. What has been good since then, what has gone less well and where have you taken away the most for the future?Wimmer: Cologne was a great time for me, especially as Peter Stöger came to the club and played every game under him. It went really well, we were promoted to the German Bundesliga and played a very good season there, without any relegation worries. That was a very good time for me. Tottenham was also something very special. Sure you want to play as much as you can, but the competition was just so big, consistent and rarely injured. Nevertheless, I was able to take a lot with me. Cologne and Tottenham were very special. I also have a lot of friends at these two clubs because I felt very comfortable there. At Stoke, apart from Moritz Bauer, with whom I get on very well, I am no longer in contact with anyone. They treated him exactly the same, he felt no different. Stoke shook my career a little, but it was still very instructive. Also the time in Belgium, where I had to take on a leading role for many young players for the first time. In retrospect, I was able to develop further with regard to Rapid. I really enjoyed it everywhere, only at Stoke it's good that it's over and done with. LAOLA1: Cologne and Tottenham were real top addresses. Was the expectation too great or was it too fast for you in the meantime? What reasons would you give yourself why the breakthrough didn't quite work out?
Wimmer: Moving to Stoke was the reason to stay in the Premier League, which is where I really wanted to go. Just stop to play regularly. But it was difficult to predict that it would work for six months and then no longer. It was a big step from LASK in the 2nd division to Cologne, and then even a giant step after Tottenham - but I would do it again. I also don't know what I should or could have done differently. I would still do it the way I planned my career so far. I certainly would have liked to have been in the Premier League longerto play, but now with Rapid I have a great address again and - like last time in Karlsruhe - I definitely want to play regularly. For a footballer, that is the most important thing and the most fun.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jun 25, 2021 13:14:14 GMT
I'm not going to bother reading all that but my response will be the same whatever, get to fuck Kev.
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Post by ohbottom on Jun 25, 2021 13:34:34 GMT
www.laola1.at/de/red/fussball/bundesliga/interview/kevin-wimmers-rapid-transfer-als-erloesung---das-war-wahnsinn-/LAOLA1: Cologne and Tottenham were real top addresses. Was the expectation too great or was it too fast for you in the meantime? What reasons would you give yourself why the breakthrough didn't quite work out?
Wimmer: Moving to Stoke was the reason to stay in the Premier League, which is where I really wanted to go. Just stop to play regularly. But it was difficult to predict that it would work for six months and then no longer. It was a big step from LASK in the 2nd division to Cologne, and then even a giant step after Tottenham - but I would do it again. I also don't know what I should or could have done differently. I would still do it the way I planned my career so far. I certainly would have liked to have been in the Premier League longerto play, but now with Rapid I have a great address again and - like last time in Karlsruhe - I definitely want to play regularly. For a footballer, that is the most important thing and the most fun. Well you could've kept yourself fit you fat git. In that interview he casts himself as being hard done by, being out of the Stoke first team after only a few months despite the huge transfer fee. I suppose it's not his fault we paid way over the odds, but a fat fee does not give you a free pass. You were dropped because you were truly shite, and getting worse with every game. Presumably he only played 15 times in 2 years at Spurs for the same reason.
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Jun 25, 2021 14:10:32 GMT
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Post by chamberlain on Jun 25, 2021 14:10:32 GMT
I'm not going to bother reading all that but my response will be the same whatever, get to fuck Kev. My response would be thanks for nothing ,fuck off Kev and then fuck off some more you big waster
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Post by dirtclod on Jun 25, 2021 14:23:02 GMT
I saw this thread come back up and thought my God he's the turd that just won't flush!
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Jun 25, 2021 16:09:54 GMT
Post by huuuuuth on Jun 25, 2021 16:09:54 GMT
Fuck you very much, you fucking skidmark
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Post by andystokey on Jun 25, 2021 16:39:31 GMT
Pointless signing even at the time we never needed him. We had a hard on for Maguire missed out and just kept looking in a position we didn't really need. It's almost as if we were desperately trying to spend £12m on a centre back. We could have picked up Johnny Evans for £5m and probably stayed up.
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Post by yyy on Jun 25, 2021 17:47:04 GMT
I saw this thread come back up and thought my God he's the turd that just won't flush! The turd that's "for the price we paid was somebody who really come to appreciate for years"
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Jun 25, 2021 21:10:34 GMT
Post by dirtclod on Jun 25, 2021 21:10:34 GMT
Pointless signing even at the time we never needed him. We had a hard on for Maguire missed out and just kept looking in a position we didn't really need. It's almost as if we were desperately trying to spend £12m on a centre back. We could have picked up Johnny Evans for £5m and probably stayed up. THIS...
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Jun 25, 2021 21:31:08 GMT
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Post by Laughing Gravy on Jun 25, 2021 21:31:08 GMT
I'm not going to bother reading all that but my response will be the same whatever, get to fuck Kev. My response would be thanks for nothing ,fuck off Kev and then fuck off some more you big waster I think the phrase is “Fuck off over there and when you get there fuck off some more”.
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