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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 11:45:37 GMT
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Post by jimmygscfc1234 on Sept 25, 2020 11:45:37 GMT
For me, he should be playing left wing back instead of Fox, but MON seems to like him in a left sided midfield role. If we play four at the back it’s difficult to see where he might feature unless he reinvents himself as a left winger. I like the look of him recently though.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 11:48:50 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 25, 2020 11:48:50 GMT
For me, he should be playing left wing back instead of Fox, but MON seems to like him in a left sided midfield role. If we play four at the back it’s difficult to see where he might feature unless he reinvents himself as a left winger. I like the look of him recently though. He can set play left wing not so sure about wing back Midfield suits him
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Post by theteacher on Sept 25, 2020 11:50:32 GMT
For me, he should be playing left wing back instead of Fox, but MON seems to like him in a left sided midfield role. If we play four at the back it’s difficult to see where he might feature unless he reinvents himself as a left winger. I like the look of him recently though. I tend to agree. I haven’t seen anything in Fox’s performances todate to suggest that he is an option as an attacking wingback. Fox possibly as a wingback IF we were up against a top team and a backs-to-the wall approach, however if we have ambitions to being towards the top end of the league this season then he should not be our left wing back. Happy if he was our left back in a back 4 but not in a back 5.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 12:16:49 GMT
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Post by wakefieldstokie on Sept 25, 2020 12:16:49 GMT
Hear what a few are saying about Fox, but I think he needs a few games in the famous red and white stripes before casting judgement.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 25, 2020 12:53:22 GMT
It's probably fair to say that Fox as a newcomer has been scared of making mistakes, and having to play three different positions since he came in (including pre season games) isn't helping. We really need to allow him to find his feet in the team before we're too critical of him, and that includes me.
However Tymon, tripping to get a start, should be persevered with as a midfielder, not as a defensive wingback, which is how we are playing currently in a backfive. Tymon's problems so far have been when he's been asked to play as a defender, because he isn't really a defnder. He just happened to be put there because he was leftfooted and both we and Hull needed a leftsided defender.
It's when he was allowed to play 20-30 yards further up as an attacking wide player that he came into his own. He's then expanded even further by playing in central midfield, not for the first time in his career, but for the first time in the spotlight.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 13:25:34 GMT
Post by Lakeland Potter on Sept 25, 2020 13:25:34 GMT
For me, he should be playing left wing back instead of Fox, but MON seems to like him in a left sided midfield role. If we play four at the back it’s difficult to see where he might feature unless he reinvents himself as a left winger. I like the look of him recently though. I tend to agree with others on this thread that, whilst Tymon could play as a left wing back in an attacking formation, I'm not certain MON currently seeks to play a particularly attacking game when he plays 3 at the back. Having watched him when he finds himself well up the field I'm sure Tymon could play as a left winger. He's got pace and his crossing ability is better than McClean's if we are being honest. It would be ironic if Tymon proves his suitability as a left winger at the same time that MON abandoned any idea of playing with wingers! I'm hoping that sometime soon MON will play something like the following in a 4231 formation. This has Tymon in central midfield but he would be able to play across the full width of the pitch as Clucas sometimes does. Brown ahead of him on the left has great mobility and no doubt Tymon would end up on the left wing on many occasions. Davies Smith, Collins, Souttar, Fox Mikel/Thompson, Tymon Campbell, Powell, Brown Fletcher
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Post by stokesaint1 on Sept 25, 2020 15:08:53 GMT
I was never Erik Pieters biggest fan but it's a sad indictment that we've had nothing anywhere near as good in the left back role since. Don't know what really happened with him but, in my view, a big mistake letting him leave for peanuts. Could probably say the same thing about Bardsley and the right back position too and again, I wasn't a particularly big Bardsley fan either. Hopefully Tymon will continue to grow and fill the longest running problem spot we've had for years, although it looks like he is playing well further forward currently.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 15:33:53 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Sept 25, 2020 15:33:53 GMT
As long as we play 5 3 2 Tymon should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 15:52:34 GMT
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Post by unknown182 on Sept 25, 2020 15:52:34 GMT
Fox is not a wing back in a million years. He'd probably look more settled as part of the back three if we're persisting with the 5atb formation.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 15:57:42 GMT
Post by spitthedog on Sept 25, 2020 15:57:42 GMT
Fox is not a wing back in a million years. He'd probably look more settled as part of the back three if we're persisting with the 5atb formation. Fox's distribution is just awful. He looks nervous on the ball in the opponent's half Makes Shawcross look like Pele
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 16:05:05 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Sept 25, 2020 16:05:05 GMT
For me, he should be playing left wing back instead of Fox, but MON seems to like him in a left sided midfield role. If we play four at the back it’s difficult to see where he might feature unless he reinvents himself as a left winger. I like the look of him recently though. I think he’s been that impressive and we’ve been so poor that there’s a decent case for him starting at least 3 positions currently! Got to be worth a start.
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 18:08:35 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Sept 25, 2020 18:08:35 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-preston-team-news-4550690“Josh has been converted into central midfield really. We feel that or wing-back is probably his best position as opposed to left-back, which is what he was brought here for. “Josh has trained extremely well and is an important part of our squad now. That’s just down to his attitude and application to get him in this situation. “His speed of play is good and he’s got a lovely left foot as well, as you saw when he struck the bar against Gillingham.”
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Tymon
Sept 25, 2020 18:28:31 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Sept 25, 2020 18:28:31 GMT
Fox is not a wing back in a million years. He'd probably look more settled as part of the back three if we're persisting with the 5atb formation. Fox's distribution is just awful. He looks nervous on the ball in the opponent's half Makes Shawcross look like Pele He looks better om the ball than Shawcross, but he isn,t a wingback!😁
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Sept 29, 2020 18:01:02 GMT
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Tymon
Sept 29, 2020 21:28:33 GMT
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 29, 2020 21:28:33 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-preston-team-news-4550690“Josh has been converted into central midfield really. We feel that or wing-back is probably his best position as opposed to left-back, which is what he was brought here for. “Josh has trained extremely well and is an important part of our squad now. That’s just down to his attitude and application to get him in this situation. “His speed of play is good and he’s got a lovely left foot as well, as you saw when he struck the bar against Gillingham.” I don't see him as a wide player at all, when he moved to wingback last game he stopped having an impact, his position is midfield.
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Tymon
Sept 29, 2020 21:29:55 GMT
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Post by lordb on Sept 29, 2020 21:29:55 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-preston-team-news-4550690“Josh has been converted into central midfield really. We feel that or wing-back is probably his best position as opposed to left-back, which is what he was brought here for. “Josh has trained extremely well and is an important part of our squad now. That’s just down to his attitude and application to get him in this situation. “His speed of play is good and he’s got a lovely left foot as well, as you saw when he struck the bar against Gillingham.” I don't see him as a wide player at all, when he moved to wingback last game he stopped having an impact, his position is midfield. He can beat a man and is a good crosser Left wing might suit him as well
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Tymon
Oct 2, 2020 7:43:14 GMT
Post by FullerMagic on Oct 2, 2020 7:43:14 GMT
Genuine 3-horse race for the LWB spot on Sunday?
Although surely it'll be McClean or Tymon?
And you cannot leave BMI out either - so Fox on bench or out of the 18, you'd think....
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Tymon
Oct 2, 2020 7:58:57 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Oct 2, 2020 7:58:57 GMT
Genuine 3-horse race for the LWB spot on Sunday? Although surely it'll be McClean or Tymon? And you cannot leave BMI out either - so Fox on bench or out of the 18, you'd think.... ................Davies................ .......Collins..Souttar..Fox.......... Smith...........Mikel...........Tymon ..........TOB.........Clucas......... ..........Campbell..Fletcher.........
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Tymon
Oct 2, 2020 8:00:41 GMT
Post by apb1 on Oct 2, 2020 8:00:41 GMT
www.stokesentinel.co.uk/sport/football/transfer-news/stoke-city-preston-team-news-4550690“Josh has been converted into central midfield really. We feel that or wing-back is probably his best position as opposed to left-back, which is what he was brought here for. “Josh has trained extremely well and is an important part of our squad now. That’s just down to his attitude and application to get him in this situation. “His speed of play is good and he’s got a lovely left foot as well, as you saw when he struck the bar against Gillingham.” I don't see him as a wide player at all, when he moved to wingback last game he stopped having an impact, his position is midfield. He was excellent out wide last night though. Literally on the touchline for most of it, especially when we were pinging it around in the first half. Looks a real talent if he keeps improving as he has lately.
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Post by FullerMagic on Oct 2, 2020 8:00:42 GMT
Genuine 3-horse race for the LWB spot on Sunday? Although surely it'll be McClean or Tymon? And you cannot leave BMI out either - so Fox on bench or out of the 18, you'd think.... ................Davies................ .......Collins..Souttar..Fox.......... Smith...........Mikel...........Tymon ..........TOB.........Clucas......... ..........Campbell..Fletcher......... I think that's a good team, Rob. But, for me, Fox over BMI makes no sense in that position. Fox jut isn't a centre-half and has no history there, whereas BMI is and is playing very well.
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Tymon
Oct 2, 2020 8:15:48 GMT
Post by robwahlmann on Oct 2, 2020 8:15:48 GMT
................Davies................ .......Collins..Souttar..Fox.......... Smith...........Mikel...........Tymon ..........TOB.........Clucas......... ..........Campbell..Fletcher......... I think that's a good team, Rob. But, for me, Fox over BMI makes no sense in that position. Fox jut isn't a centre-half and has no history there, whereas BMI is and is playing very well. With 3 at the back I prefer Fox simply because of pace. He is also a very steady player who doesn't make big mistakes which is a big plus as well. I agree, there isn't much between the two as BMI has done really well when given the chance this season. Another question is if BMI still wants out of the club or not? He wanted to leave in January if information from different sources was right. I won't be too worried if BMI is picked though, but please keep Chester out of the team. All in all Chester hasn't been that bad, but still I see him as our weakest link at the back.
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 6:36:31 GMT
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Post by superalexneil on Nov 25, 2020 6:36:31 GMT
Back to standard josh tymon. Rubbish. Get rid
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 7:48:17 GMT
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Post by potterpaul on Nov 25, 2020 7:48:17 GMT
There seems to be a mentality issue with Josh similar to Rowetts issue of shitting himself at the point of promotion, Josh seems to shit it at the point of becoming a regular. He has ability, there's no doubting that, just needs to apply it on a consistent basis.
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 7:53:36 GMT
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Post by Deleted on Nov 25, 2020 7:53:36 GMT
Back to standard josh tymon. Rubbish. Get rid Or just play him in the position he’s most effectual in?
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 8:12:40 GMT
Post by The Toxic Avenger on Nov 25, 2020 8:12:40 GMT
Back to standard josh tymon. Rubbish. Get rid Or just play him in the position he’s most effectual in? Instead of?
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 8:20:19 GMT
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Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 25, 2020 8:20:19 GMT
We know he’s not a left wing back.
We knew that before last night.
Where did that selection come from?
When I saw the team I hoped he would play in midfield to give us that extra man in there that we needed from Saturday.
Alas.....
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 8:43:27 GMT
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Post by Championship Potter on Nov 25, 2020 8:43:27 GMT
Does he need a loan? He seems to veer between very good and very shit. I do feel like there is a player in there.
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 8:58:15 GMT
Post by femark on Nov 25, 2020 8:58:15 GMT
We know he’s not a left wing back. We knew that before last night. Where did that selection come from? When I saw the team I hoped he would play in midfield to give us that extra man in there that we needed from Saturday. Alas..... The problem is, he is a wing back or a full back. That is where he has played for his entire career, as short as it is. He has played a couple of games in midfield and looked half decent, that doesn't make him a midfielder. Some of the problem with both wingbacks is that as a team we are terrible at making space for them to get crosses in/take a man on. We go play the ball to them far to early and never get players around them, generally causing them to lose the ball or play it back.
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 9:16:52 GMT
Post by nottsover60 on Nov 25, 2020 9:16:52 GMT
Back to standard josh tymon. Rubbish. Get rid Or just play him in the position he’s most effectual in? Which is?
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Tymon
Nov 25, 2020 9:25:03 GMT
Post by bayernoatcake on Nov 25, 2020 9:25:03 GMT
We know he’s not a left wing back. We knew that before last night. Where did that selection come from? When I saw the team I hoped he would play in midfield to give us that extra man in there that we needed from Saturday. Alas..... The problem is, he is a wing back or a full back. That is where he has played for his entire career, as short as it is. He has played a couple of games in midfield and looked half decent, that doesn't make him a midfielder. Some of the problem with both wingbacks is that as a team we are terrible at making space for them to get crosses in/take a man on. We go play the ball to them far to early and never get players around them, generally causing them to lose the ball or play it back. Yeah it's where he's played but he's not done particularly well there and shouldn't be considered for it. I just wouldn't use him bar for left wing or in a midfield 3.
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