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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 22:43:52 GMT
Everyone seems euphoric which is nice but we shouldn’t let it cloud the issues this club still face.
Is the only hope MON papering over the massive cracks we have as a club structurally? And is that really acceptable?
As things stand I think the answer to those questions are yes and no.
We’ve clearly got a good un in MON but we have got to learn that we cannot just rely on finding a good manager. This club still needs the root and branch overhaul it needed when we were relegated from the PL and that we would have been demanding had this season ended differently too.
Scholes has to go. Why is he still here? We cannot go into another transfer window with him at the helm. It’s the bare minimum we need and quite frankly deserve.
What then. I’d still like to see another fresh face on the board tbh. Someone with new ideas and someone who will actually tell the current lot what they’ve done wrong and where they need to improve. We need modernising almost. I just feel like we’ve been left behind on the pitch with how we play and it’s the same off it too.
Ideally I think we need a technical director too. Who the manager reports in to. But that potentially upsets the apple cart unnecessarily but it’s a way more sustainable and accountable way of doing things.
Staying up is great but it shouldn’t be used to let them off indeed it should be the warning sign for them to make the changes they said they would after we were relegated from the Premier League.
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Post by BristolMick on Jul 19, 2020 22:46:43 GMT
Everyone seems euphoric which is nice but we shouldn’t let it cloud the issues this club still face. Is the only hope MON papering over the massive cracks we have as a club structurally? And is that really acceptable? As things stand I think the answer to those questions are yes and no. We’ve clearly got a good un in MON but we have got to learn that we cannot just rely on finding a good manager. This club still needs the root and branch overhaul it needed when we were relegated from the PL and that we would have been demanding had this season ended differently too. Scholes has to go. Why is he still here? We cannot go into another transfer window with him at the helm. It’s the bare minimum we need and quite frankly deserve. What then. I’d still like to see another fresh face on the board tbh. Someone with new ideas and someone who will actually tell the current lot what they’ve done wrong and where they need to improve. We need modernising almost. I just feel like we’ve been left behind on the pitch with how we play and it’s the same off it too. Ideally I think we need a technical director too. Who the manager reports in to. But that potentially upsets the apple cart unnecessarily but it’s a way more sustainable and accountable way of doing things. Staying up is great but it shouldn’t be used to let them off indeed it should be the warning sign for them to make the changes they said they would after we were relegated from the Premier League. Bring back the Icelandics! BM
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 19, 2020 22:48:14 GMT
Everyone seems euphoric which is nice but we shouldn’t let it cloud the issues this club still face. Is the only hope MON papering over the massive cracks we have as a club structurally? And is that really acceptable? As things stand I think the answer to those questions are yes and no. We’ve clearly got a good un in MON but we have got to learn that we cannot just rely on finding a good manager. This club still needs the root and branch overhaul it needed when we were relegated from the PL and that we would have been demanding had this season ended differently too. Scholes has to go. Why is he still here? We cannot go into another transfer window with him at the helm. It’s the bare minimum we need and quite frankly deserve. What then. I’d still like to see another fresh face on the board tbh. Someone with new ideas and someone who will actually tell the current lot what they’ve done wrong and where they need to improve. We need modernising almost. I just feel like we’ve been left behind on the pitch with how we play and it’s the same off it too. Ideally I think we need a technical director too. Who the manager reports in to. But that potentially upsets the apple cart unnecessarily but it’s a way more sustainable and accountable way of doing things. Staying up is great but it shouldn’t be used to let them off indeed it should be the warning sign for them to make the changes they said they would after we were relegated from the Premier League. Bring back the Icelandics! BM They did well for us. But this isn’t about wanting the Coates family out, it’s about them actually realising they fucked up and that they need to get with the times. The whole set up is so backward.
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Post by ashleyscfc on Jul 19, 2020 23:03:27 GMT
Everyone seems euphoric which is nice but we shouldn’t let it cloud the issues this club still face. Is the only hope MON papering over the massive cracks we have as a club structurally? And is that really acceptable? As things stand I think the answer to those questions are yes and no. We’ve clearly got a good un in MON but we have got to learn that we cannot just rely on finding a good manager. This club still needs the root and branch overhaul it needed when we were relegated from the PL and that we would have been demanding had this season ended differently too. Scholes has to go. Why is he still here? We cannot go into another transfer window with him at the helm. It’s the bare minimum we need and quite frankly deserve. What then. I’d still like to see another fresh face on the board tbh. Someone with new ideas and someone who will actually tell the current lot what they’ve done wrong and where they need to improve. We need modernising almost. I just feel like we’ve been left behind on the pitch with how we play and it’s the same off it too. Ideally I think we need a technical director too. Who the manager reports in to. But that potentially upsets the apple cart unnecessarily but it’s a way more sustainable and accountable way of doing things. Staying up is great but it shouldn’t be used to let them off indeed it should be the warning sign for them to make the changes they said they would after we were relegated from the Premier League. This, now is priority number one for me. We need to build a new culture, top down.
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Post by santy on Jul 20, 2020 5:56:52 GMT
It doesn't make any sense to me as to why this would even vaguely be considered.
The main reason being there isn't anyone who can factually, categorically, state what is right or wrong for a football club. You could have people at the club next season who have some absolutely fantastic ideas. They could be utterly ground breaking and bring something new to the sport or we might end up somehow emulating a peak Barcelona/Liverpool etc of recent years on the pitch. If the other 23 clubs in the league come across something even better though, we're still finishing the season dead last. That's the reality of football, you can do everything right and still fail.
Ultimately the Coates family, by virtue of owning the club, have the right to run it the way they believe is correct while trying to achieve success.
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Post by Chewbacca the Wookie on Jul 20, 2020 6:39:03 GMT
Bring back the Icelandics! BM They did well for us. But this isn’t about wanting the Coates family out, it’s about them actually realising they fucked up and that they need to get with the times. The whole set up is so backward. Well said Bayern. The Coates have been great for the club and Peter is much loved and has bought much to the area. The problem is the Scholes/Coates JR way of doing things. They need a football man in to make decisions at boardroom level not someone who’ll interfere with MONs management decision but someone that can mediate between board and manager. Mistakes have been made and things need to change.
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Post by wagsastokie on Jul 20, 2020 6:41:09 GMT
Give O'Niell and his backroom staff a five year contract with control over first team under 21s and under 18s And youths So all young players can slot into the way the first team play if good enough
And appiont a new comercial director who will maximise external income
Jobs a good un
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 20, 2020 6:41:40 GMT
Some people are really obsessed with the people leading this club! We all know that the Coates family have given this club massive financial backing for years now, and will do anything in the best interest of the club. In fact our troubles with FFP is because the owners have backed former managers in their choice of players, and believed in their assessment of players. I think most of us were pleased when we signed Imbula and was impressed after his first games too. It was very difficult to predict it would end as it did. Was it wrong to back Hughes financially as they did? In hindsight yes, but Hughes had been a success for three seasons and the owners put faith in him being able to keep this going. Unfortunately it didn't, and we had trouble bringing in the new manager we wanted. We ended up with someone who who didn't do much worse than Hughes the last season, but it wasn't enough to keep us up. A new manger was brought in, Rowett, and again I think most of us thought it was an exciting appointment. Again the manager was finacially backed as our goal was to go straight up, and most of us were excited about the new season. Unfortunately this didn't work out and Rowett had to go. We then again went for a new and upcoming manager with decent results from the leagues below, and again the manager was backed in bringing in new players. Unfortunately too much money was spent on backing Rowett and not so much money was available for new players because of FFP. Despite all of this the owners have backed all the managers as much as possible financially, and I guess they believe in the people they have brought in to run our club on a daily basis. It certainly is their right as well with all the money they have risked for this club. All our managers have been backed finacially as much as possible, and all our managers have been able to bring in their signings within financial restrictions. Could we really ask for more!?
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Post by Do it for dobing on Jul 20, 2020 6:46:16 GMT
It's a private company and they have the right to appoint who they want They the Coates family are the reason we were able to get MON I think demanding board changes will annoy the Coates family and potentially lose their backing so let's trust MON to get us up to the premiership and leave the Coates family to it
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 6:47:28 GMT
Agree with the OP. Said it on one of the many threads that I hoped that avoiding relegation didn't give them carte blanche to carry on with the half measures and mistakes, and that they would only look at a proper overhaul after a relegation to League One.
We do need a genuine football, and a modern football brain on the board - someone who is totally separate to the family with no family links or friend links. Someone who is impartial and will not only challenge the status quo, but someone that will try and put down his own roadmap.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Jul 20, 2020 7:08:51 GMT
They have backed the club with 100s of millions of pounds that gives them the right to make decisions. MON is happy with the board and trusts them otherwise he wouldn't have come Stoke need the Coates family to have any chance of getting back to the premiership The alternative is lets be a Wigan or a Bolton or even Sunderland no money and potential administration We are a small club with average crowds but rich owners be careful that we do not lose everything
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 20, 2020 7:21:51 GMT
They have backed the club with 100s of millions of pounds that gives them the right to make decisions. MON is happy with the board and trusts them otherwise he wouldn't have come Stoke need the Coates family to have any chance of getting back to the premiership The alternative is lets be a Wigan or a Bolton or even Sunderland no money and potential administration We are a small club with average crowds but rich owners be careful that we do not lose everything People I think are misconstruing the original post , it wasn’t about change of ownership but rather a re structured executive management structure ( those paid by the owners to run the club ) at the owners bidding to take the business forward , private or public I can’t see another company not considering this given the business performance on and off the pitch ove4 the last 4 years . Not to do so suggests a stubbornness or closed thinking that could well lead to further damage or slipping further behind . Taking out the personalities if nothing else we desperately need both independent challenge and football gravitas around the board table.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Jul 20, 2020 7:27:02 GMT
As the end of the day the family signs the cheques and only them nobody from outside can spend their money
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 20, 2020 7:29:57 GMT
It doesn't make any sense to me as to why this would even vaguely be considered. The main reason being there isn't anyone who can factually, categorically, state what is right or wrong for a football club. You could have people at the club next season who have some absolutely fantastic ideas. They could be utterly ground breaking and bring something new to the sport or we might end up somehow emulating a peak Barcelona/Liverpool etc of recent years on the pitch. If the other 23 clubs in the league come across something even better though, we're still finishing the season dead last. That's the reality of football, you can do everything right and still fail. Ultimately the Coates family, by virtue of owning the club, have the right to run it the way they believe is correct while trying to achieve success. Well said Denise 😎
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 20, 2020 7:32:56 GMT
I think they need to pick a direction and stick with it. They're rightly proud that they trust their manager's judgement and that he gets the final say, but they also sort of dabble a bit in the modern 'appoint a glorified cone putter outer as manager and have a shadowy man behind the scenes really running the club'.
That's why people fall out over this apparent contradiction. The problem is the transfer team, except the manager gets to sign who he wants. The problem is the manager, except there's clearly some kind of autonomous recruitment system at work that buys and sells players when we don't have a manager.
From what I can infer, the manager can pick out specific targets and say that he wants them as a matter of priority and the board will back him (Berahino, McClean, Afobe etc). He also tells the transfer team that he wants a certain profile of player, and they rustle up what they can. This is where the problems start, because the manager gets the final say, but he can only choose from the options he is presented with. This explains the sudden lurches from our A list target to the bargain bucket offering, such as Soares to Johnson, Lemina to Fletcher and Justin to Ward. It explains why almost every midfielder that we signed since Hughes took over is exactly the same sort of box-to-box player.
On top of that, you have the bit where the transfer people act autonomously. Sam Vokes was signed shortly after Jones was appointed, but 'the manager always has the final word' was actually 'we've set up a deal for Sam Vokes, would you like us to complete it?' We signed Badou N'Diaye and Stafilydis without a manager, and it's hard to believe that Rowett hand-picked Etebo. When we were relegated, somebody made a decision on which players to release. The exile of Wimmer and Imbula seems to be a decision taken by somebody higher up than the manager.
So there you have it. The manager is backed to the hilt, but there's also other stuff at play. The scouting doesn't seem to be good at presenting adequate options. They need to pick one approach and get better at it.
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 20, 2020 7:49:10 GMT
To me this is very simple as long as it was my money. I'd choose the people to work for me that I trusted, and of course that would be my choice as it was my money! Nobody should tell me who to hire or not, as simple as that. As long as our owners give managers finacial backing within the restrictions of FFP I really can't understand what the fuss is all about!
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Post by neddy on Jul 20, 2020 7:49:33 GMT
I have said before I think a couple of non exec director of football would be sufficient to help and support them.
It wouldn’t cost the earth and they don’t even have to take the advice it’s just to help them make judgements. I still think the main faults lay with the managers as the Board has always backed them to the hilt and it is their judgment that proved at fault imho. I don’t particularly like Scholes but he doesn’t pick them he just does the contracts the manager asks for?
The judgements have been on the manager appointments....let’s be honest like them or not Pulis and Hughes did well....it was more down to when they sacked Hughes and the replacement.
I thought Lambert was a poor appointment too late but I cut them some slack over Rowett I thought he would have been ok but his personality turned out to be dreadful alongside some poor buys? I see what they thought with Jones young keen etc but hey ho!
I think they’ve got O’Neill spot on but no one has a crystal ball and I originally had him as second choice over Moyes! Glad we’ve got MON now though and am sure he will be backed like the others within the ffp rules. Let’s see....
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 20, 2020 8:01:03 GMT
I do think someone needs to be brought in to properly oversee recruitment and to add a fresh set of ideas to the board.
I’d like us to create an identity/ philosophy at board level that when managers eventually come and go we are recruiting similar style managers with consistency not ending up with players upon players suited to different roles and styles like we have now.
Whilst forever grateful and I’d never be ‘Coates Out’ they do need to look at themselves, they need help making footballing decisions and are possibly too clouded by loyalty.
If we could get a proper DOF maybe from the lower leagues (unlikely as they don’t tend to operate like this) or abroad to handle recruitment who have contacts within the game.
A technical director to help build the philosophy on sound footballing experience to provide a challenging opinion in the board room.
And ultimately we have to get a new CEO, one that can bridge the gap better between football and the commercial business. We simply have to start growing our external revenues, what that looks like I don’t know (pay me £1m a year like Mr Scholes and is give it a better go than him mind!) and to help connect the fan base further.
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Post by clarkeda on Jul 20, 2020 8:01:04 GMT
I do think someone needs to be brought in to properly oversee recruitment and to add a fresh set of ideas to the board.
I’d like us to create an identity/ philosophy at board level that when managers eventually come and go we are recruiting similar style managers with consistency not ending up with players upon players suited to different roles and styles like we have now.
Whilst forever grateful and I’d never be ‘Coates Out’ they do need to look at themselves, they need help making footballing decisions and are possibly too clouded by loyalty.
If we could get a proper DOF maybe from the lower leagues (unlikely as they don’t tend to operate like this) or abroad to handle recruitment who have contacts within the game.
A technical director to help build the philosophy on sound footballing experience to provide a challenging opinion in the board room.
And ultimately we have to get a new CEO, one that can bridge the gap better between football and the commercial business. We simply have to start growing our external revenues, what that looks like I don’t know (pay me £1m a year like Mr Scholes and is give it a better go than him mind!) and to help connect the fan base further.
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Post by GeneralFaye on Jul 20, 2020 8:15:07 GMT
You might as well be screaming in an empty room when it comes to this subject. Tony is here to stay, I'm happy to say.
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Post by tosh on Jul 20, 2020 8:23:04 GMT
The Coates family own the club and obviously have the right to decide how it is run. They want it to be successful and have the financial clout to pursue that aim. As someone previously said, you can think you have done everything right and maybe it doesn’t work out for some reason. However if you have signed many players at vast transfer fees and wages, and they have not contributed, and no one will take them off your hands, then you have to analyse what has gone wrong with the decision making, who is responsible, and whether better oversight could have prevented it, and if so make any necessary changes. Who sanctioned signIng Wimmer for £18M when Spurs had paid about £4M and given him half a dozen games and he couldn’t get into their team?
Who sanctioned paying £18M for Imbula when Porto wanted rid after six months, and a quick Google search would have shown French press articles about what a bad egg he was, and with a father as agent with allegedly very dodgy connections. Following those mistakes we then went on to create the present squad difficulties by giving Rowett and Jones apparently unquestioned backing although neither had any track record In spending big budgets successfully, and we have ended up with a bloated squad and massive wage bill almost plunging us into league one, and leaving us with ongoing squad rebuilding problems.
We are very lucky in many ways to have the family as owners but you would hope that this latest narrowly avoided disaster, would persuade them to work with Michael O’Neill a man who seems to have a good business head as well as a footballIng brain, to analyse what changes clubs such as Brentford have made to their modus operandi, to enable them to recruit successfully and punch above their weight, and to make any changes necessary including at board or executive level.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 20, 2020 8:24:23 GMT
Some people are really obsessed with the people leading this club! We all know that the Coates family have given this club massive financial backing for years now, and will do anything in the best interest of the club. In fact our troubles with FFP is because the owners have backed former managers in their choice of players, and believed in their assessment of players. I think most of us were pleased when we signed Imbula and was impressed after his first games too. It was very difficult to predict it would end as it did. Was it wrong to back Hughes financially as they did? In hindsight yes, but Hughes had been a success for three seasons and the owners put faith in him being able to keep this going. Unfortunately it didn't, and we had trouble bringing in the new manager we wanted. We ended up with someone who who didn't do much worse than Hughes the last season, but it wasn't enough to keep us up. A new manger was brought in, Rowett, and again I think most of us thought it was an exciting appointment. Again the manager was finacially backed as our goal was to go straight up, and most of us were excited about the new season. Unfortunately this didn't work out and Rowett had to go. We then again went for a new and upcoming manager with decent results from the leagues below, and again the manager was backed in bringing in new players. Unfortunately too much money was spent on backing Rowett and not so much money was available for new players because of FFP. Despite all of this the owners have backed all the managers as much as possible financially, and I guess they believe in the people they have brought in to run our club on a daily basis. It certainly is their right as well with all the money they have risked for this club. All our managers have been backed finacially as much as possible, and all our managers have been able to bring in their signings within financial restrictions. Could we really ask for more!? You were doing ever so well until you said, Rowett "was an exciting appointment".
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Post by cousindupree on Jul 20, 2020 8:36:34 GMT
I have been banging on about boardroom changes for 4/5 when our decline set in. The current board have been instrumental in the decline and made same mistakes time and again. The boardroom is a cosy insular Cabal. Peter is now 82!! He can't be praised highly enough for the financial commitment he has made to the club and we need this to continue. But at 82 he will intransigent to radical change, that's what happens the older you get. Then we have a bean counter whose CV hardly impresses and his reputation is living off our success in the Premier League but has overseen our decline. John Coates...well don't even get me started ok he is the big man's son but it doesnt mean he is the radical forward thinker we need to move us forward. When a business fails you simply have to have some new eyes and fresh ideas to radically overhaul the business. The manager shouldn't be burdened with overseeing everything. It just doesn't happen in the top clubs and is an outdated approach in a more complex modern football world. MON is the right man on the pitch that's for sure but needs help in the transfer market and he just isn't going to get the maximum help from how the club is structured. A serious knowledgeable DOF with European credibility needs to be hired to add fresh ideas. Will it happen? Not under Coates senior watch I doubt.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Jul 20, 2020 8:48:45 GMT
I have been banging on about boardroom changes for 4/5 when our decline set in. The current board have been instrumental in the decline and made same mistakes time and again. The boardroom is a cosy insular Cabal. Peter is now 82!! He can't be praised highly enough for the financial commitment he has made to the club and we need this to continue. But at 82 he will intransigent to radical change, that's what happens the older you get. Then we have a bean counter whose CV hardly impresses and his reputation is living off our success in the Premier League but has overseen our decline. John Coates...well don't even get me started ok he is the big man's son but it doesnt mean he is the radical forward thinker we need to move us forward. When a business fails you simply have to have some new eyes and fresh ideas to radically overhaul the business. The manager shouldn't be burdened with overseeing everything. It just doesn't happen in the top clubs and is an outdated approach in a more complex modern football world. MON is the right man on the pitch that's for sure but needs help in the transfer market and he just isn't going to get the maximum help from how the club is structured. A serious knowledgeable DOF with European credibility needs to be hired to add fresh ideas. Will it happen? Not under Coates senior watch I doubt. If you dont have the finance behind the club there is nothing we will become a Wigan or Bolton or Bury The Coates are here and we are lucky
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Post by robwahlmann on Jul 20, 2020 9:01:51 GMT
Some people are really obsessed with the people leading this club! We all know that the Coates family have given this club massive financial backing for years now, and will do anything in the best interest of the club. In fact our troubles with FFP is because the owners have backed former managers in their choice of players, and believed in their assessment of players. I think most of us were pleased when we signed Imbula and was impressed after his first games too. It was very difficult to predict it would end as it did. Was it wrong to back Hughes financially as they did? In hindsight yes, but Hughes had been a success for three seasons and the owners put faith in him being able to keep this going. Unfortunately it didn't, and we had trouble bringing in the new manager we wanted. We ended up with someone who who didn't do much worse than Hughes the last season, but it wasn't enough to keep us up. A new manger was brought in, Rowett, and again I think most of us thought it was an exciting appointment. Again the manager was finacially backed as our goal was to go straight up, and most of us were excited about the new season. Unfortunately this didn't work out and Rowett had to go. We then again went for a new and upcoming manager with decent results from the leagues below, and again the manager was backed in bringing in new players. Unfortunately too much money was spent on backing Rowett and not so much money was available for new players because of FFP. Despite all of this the owners have backed all the managers as much as possible financially, and I guess they believe in the people they have brought in to run our club on a daily basis. It certainly is their right as well with all the money they have risked for this club. All our managers have been backed finacially as much as possible, and all our managers have been able to bring in their signings within financial restrictions. Could we really ask for more!? You were doing ever so well until you said, Rowett "was an exciting appointment". I honestly think a lot of us thought he was! The results though showed something else, and I couldn't get rid fast enough!
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 20, 2020 9:05:05 GMT
Some people are really obsessed with the people leading this club! We all know that the Coates family have given this club massive financial backing for years now, and will do anything in the best interest of the club. In fact our troubles with FFP is because the owners have backed former managers in their choice of players, and believed in their assessment of players. I think most of us were pleased when we signed Imbula and was impressed after his first games too. It was very difficult to predict it would end as it did. Was it wrong to back Hughes financially as they did? In hindsight yes, but Hughes had been a success for three seasons and the owners put faith in him being able to keep this going. Unfortunately it didn't, and we had trouble bringing in the new manager we wanted. We ended up with someone who who didn't do much worse than Hughes the last season, but it wasn't enough to keep us up. A new manger was brought in, Rowett, and again I think most of us thought it was an exciting appointment. Again the manager was finacially backed as our goal was to go straight up, and most of us were excited about the new season. Unfortunately this didn't work out and Rowett had to go. We then again went for a new and upcoming manager with decent results from the leagues below, and again the manager was backed in bringing in new players. Unfortunately too much money was spent on backing Rowett and not so much money was available for new players because of FFP. Despite all of this the owners have backed all the managers as much as possible financially, and I guess they believe in the people they have brought in to run our club on a daily basis. It certainly is their right as well with all the money they have risked for this club. All our managers have been backed finacially as much as possible, and all our managers have been able to bring in their signings within financial restrictions. Could we really ask for more!? Oh dear
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 20, 2020 9:05:27 GMT
It doesn't make any sense to me as to why this would even vaguely be considered. The main reason being there isn't anyone who can factually, categorically, state what is right or wrong for a football club. You could have people at the club next season who have some absolutely fantastic ideas. They could be utterly ground breaking and bring something new to the sport or we might end up somehow emulating a peak Barcelona/Liverpool etc of recent years on the pitch. If the other 23 clubs in the league come across something even better though, we're still finishing the season dead last. That's the reality of football, you can do everything right and still fail. Ultimately the Coates family, by virtue of owning the club, have the right to run it the way they believe is correct while trying to achieve success. Oh dear
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Post by Pugsley on Jul 20, 2020 9:06:02 GMT
They have backed the club with 100s of millions of pounds that gives them the right to make decisions. MON is happy with the board and trusts them otherwise he wouldn't have come Stoke need the Coates family to have any chance of getting back to the premiership The alternative is lets be a Wigan or a Bolton or even Sunderland no money and potential administration We are a small club with average crowds but rich owners be careful that we do not lose everything Oh dear
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Post by Bullseye on Jul 20, 2020 9:07:30 GMT
Now would be a decent time to bring in a Technical Director, perhaps, given MON's relative lack of experience of the transfer market compared to (for the sake of argument) a Pulis or a Hughes.
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Post by Do it for dobing on Jul 20, 2020 9:08:41 GMT
They have backed the club with 100s of millions of pounds that gives them the right to make decisions. MON is happy with the board and trusts them otherwise he wouldn't have come Stoke need the Coates family to have any chance of getting back to the premiership The alternative is lets be a Wigan or a Bolton or even Sunderland no money and potential administration We are a small club with average crowds but rich owners be careful that we do not lose everything Oh dear Playing with dynamite
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