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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2020 11:27:39 GMT
MON has had lessons from the last two managers on what not to do and is paying the price. MON was quick to remove players who don't want to play for us and have ambitions to be elsewhere. Presumably the reverse is true and he wants to sign players who are keen to play for Stoke, not just journey men earning a nice living. Ince's next club will be the 10th he has played for; we just have to find another manager who wants him and is prepared to pay his wage demands. All manager's have a favourite way to play/formation and pick players to fit it; I expect MON is no different. He will have seen more players in a bigger pool than the last two managers, who seemed happy with 2nd and 3rd tier English league players, with odd exceptions. I expect MON will have been noting down club players he would like for a very long time should the opportunity arise. His job is to convince them to come to Stoke, and the CEO's job to secure the deal. MON is a more mature than the last two managers and will have a large number of contacts and is a gregarious character who will "have friends". Just as Hughes was able to use his Spanish contacts, MON will be able to use his Scottish and Irish contacts to find out who are the young up and coming players a club like ours should be snapping up (Another Terry Conroy or Whelan would be nice!) He also has many contacts through his 8 years on the international scene, so we might get a few surprises like we did with Bojan and Muniesa. He also had lessons re that with the formation and still used the same one they did and it didn't work We've seen time and time again that it actually means very little. The processes at the club are still shite. Ince was great under Rowett and has been a good Championship player for most of his career. It is and off the evidence so far his eye re Thompson and Chester is poor. It's a small evidence base and that's why I said it's harsh but that's what we have to judge and it's why it's is obviously an issue. Whether that bears out or not is a different matter but it's the one side of it where I think he will need help and I worry that help is Tony Scholes and cronies. Your last paragraph, I don't really buy tbh. Does Scholes have any cronies?
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 17, 2020 11:28:53 GMT
He also had lessons re that with the formation and still used the same one they did and it didn't work We've seen time and time again that it actually means very little. The processes at the club are still shite. Ince was great under Rowett and has been a good Championship player for most of his career. It is and off the evidence so far his eye re Thompson and Chester is poor. It's a small evidence base and that's why I said it's harsh but that's what we have to judge and it's why it's is obviously an issue. Whether that bears out or not is a different matter but it's the one side of it where I think he will need help and I worry that help is Tony Scholes and cronies. Your last paragraph, I don't really buy tbh. Does Scholes have any cronies? No idea. I'd imagine he will use people though to fill the void of the Beswicks goalie? Unless he thinks he can do that as well now.
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Post by lordb on Jul 17, 2020 11:31:06 GMT
Does Scholes have any cronies? No idea. I'd imagine he will use people though to fill the void of the Beswicks goalie? Unless he thinks he can do that as well now. Cartwright hasn't been replaced
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 17, 2020 11:32:58 GMT
No idea. I'd imagine he will use people though to fill the void of the Beswicks goalie? Unless he thinks he can do that as well now. Cartwright hasn't been replaced So yeah that's where I'd imagine he will have a few people almost as consultants doing that. I mean it's what I hope is actually happening tbh.
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