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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2021 21:46:16 GMT
Shocking were the crowd un armed or were the Paras responding to incoming ? I have just seen a sickening video on You Tube about corporals Wood and Howes terrible times lost two mates in the troubles in NI, a terrible time in our history glorifying terrorism to children is however disgusting whatever your views, in my opinion the only good terrorist is a dead one. I think the best people to answer your question are David Cameron and Lord Saville www.bbc.co.uk/news/10322295McLean's instagram post was in my view a bad error of judgement, but it was self-parody not glorifying terrorism Call me Dave and Jimmy Saville no thanks, in my view he was glorifying terrorism not self parody, would you post that with your kids sitting in front of you on social media ? he is welcome to his beliefs no problem at all with that, however if you are stupid enough to post that you should expect a negative response especially with the mindless goons that frequent social media platforms such an instagram, twatter and faceless fcuk, he knows what he is doing posting stuff like that he knows he will get responses, if you play with fire you are going to get burnt (not literally)
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2021 21:47:35 GMT
What derogatory names ? would you bring your kids up like that ? Is it for real? Is it ? who knows what is going on in his tiny brain.
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Post by tomcmod on Feb 16, 2021 21:54:19 GMT
I think the best people to answer your question are David Cameron and Lord Saville www.bbc.co.uk/news/10322295McLean's instagram post was in my view a bad error of judgement, but it was self-parody not glorifying terrorism Call me Dave and Jimmy Saville no thanks, in my view he was glorifying terrorism not self parody, would you post that with your kids sitting in front of you on social media ? he is welcome to his beliefs no problem at all with that, however if you are stupid enough to post that you should expect a negative response especially with the mindless goons that frequent social media platforms such an instagram, twatter and faceless fcuk, he knows what he is doing posting stuff like that he knows he will get responses, if you play with fire you are going to get burnt (not literally) The Instagram post was stupid and he has admitted so, however you go on like that's how it started. He's had abuse for a long time before that, giving him abuse infront of his children before that, threatening him and his family before that. So what you are saying is 2 wrongs do make a right if he deserves to have him and his family threatened.
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Post by liathroid on Feb 16, 2021 21:58:46 GMT
If only he could play football as well as he plays the victim so why do they all take the knee
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 16, 2021 22:03:49 GMT
Call me Dave and Jimmy Saville no thanks, in my view he was glorifying terrorism not self parody, would you post that with your kids sitting in front of you on social media ? he is welcome to his beliefs no problem at all with that, however if you are stupid enough to post that you should expect a negative response especially with the mindless goons that frequent social media platforms such an instagram, twatter and faceless fcuk, he knows what he is doing posting stuff like that he knows he will get responses, if you play with fire you are going to get burnt (not literally) The Instagram post was stupid and he has admitted so, however you go on like that's how it started. He's had abuse for a long time before that, giving him abuse infront of his children before that, threatening him and his family before that. So what you are saying is 2 wrongs do make a right if he deserves to have him and his family threatened. I didn't say that at all you are wrong, would you post the type of material he does on social media ? I wouldn't if I did I would expect to get a response probably an unpleasant response especially on those platforms they are frequented by mindless morons imo, if he was serious about his concerns for his and his families welfare he would stop inciting the knuckle draggers that use those platforms it's that simple.
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on Feb 17, 2021 0:54:02 GMT
Go away please, James. You're not very good and you're certainly not worth the baggage.
I don't hate you, I just want to forget all about you.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 7:08:57 GMT
Go away please, James. You're not very good and you're certainly not worth the baggage. I don't hate you, I just want to forget all about you. Another shocking performance again last night, he sums up all that is wrong within the club the sooner he goes the better.
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Post by salfordstokie on Feb 17, 2021 8:15:19 GMT
Thought McClean spoke very well in his interview with Sky Sports. Anyone who thinks he 'asks for it' or 'doesn't help himself' needs to educate themselves and try to understand the vile abuse he gets. If people think that is acceptable they are moronic.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 8:18:14 GMT
Absolute garbage from him again. Get out of the club.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 9:19:24 GMT
Thought McClean spoke very well in his interview with Sky Sports. Anyone who thinks he 'asks for it' or 'doesn't help himself' needs to educate themselves and try to understand the vile abuse he gets. If people think that is acceptable they are moronic. Attachment Deleted yep doesn't help himself pretty much sums him up.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 9:21:14 GMT
Absolute garbage from him again. Get out of the club. I wonder if Rowett still rates him highly enough to take him on loan ?
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 17, 2021 9:28:53 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought.
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Post by RAF on Feb 17, 2021 9:29:41 GMT
Thought McClean spoke very well in his interview with Sky Sports. Anyone who thinks he 'asks for it' or 'doesn't help himself' needs to educate themselves and try to understand the vile abuse he gets. If people think that is acceptable they are moronic. Oh hey up thick 'corona virus is a myth' fuckwitt is back. Absolute fucking whale omelette. H
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Post by RAF on Feb 17, 2021 9:34:49 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought. But that is exactly what you are doing though. Suggesting he has been affected by corona virus is pretty much tantamount to mitigating his woeful form. I will say this, if he'd actually followed the rules and not kept going to a private gym for boxing lessons, maybe he would be slightly less shit than he is now? H
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 9:37:47 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought. Didn't he break Coronavirus rules going to the gym recently ? not the sharpest tool in the box is he, maybe he caught it again or maybe he spread it who knows.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 9:39:10 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought. But that is exactly what you are doing though. Suggesting he has been affected by corona virus is pretty much tantamount to mitigating his woeful form. I will say this, if he'd actually followed the rules and not kept going to a private gym for boxing lessons, maybe he would be slightly less shit than he is now? H Beat me to it !
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Post by theonlooker on Feb 17, 2021 9:43:56 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought. But that is exactly what you are doing though. Suggesting he has been affected by corona virus is pretty much tantamount to mitigating his woeful form. I will say this, if he'd actually followed the rules and not kept going to a private gym for boxing lessons, maybe he would be slightly less shit than he is now? H It might be an excuse but it also might be a real issue that hasn't been properly researched yet because of the pressures on the health system and the concentration on the vaccine program. My point is that if people on the street can get long covid and it can affect them to the point where it ranges from breathlessness to completely wiping them out, then it can affect footballers. If it affects footballers, who are super fit athletes, then what if it only affects them by a hidden 5% or so? Not enough for them to notice the same as me or you might, but to the point where they are just a bit sluggish and that they redline a bit more sooner than normal? Ultimately, the most intelligent and highly trained scientists on the planet still do not understand this virus properly. I get your point about the gym and I get the general dislike for the bloke in and around the game, but this might be a genuine issue. It might not obviously, time will tell...
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Post by elystokie on Feb 17, 2021 10:02:11 GMT
But that is exactly what you are doing though. Suggesting he has been affected by corona virus is pretty much tantamount to mitigating his woeful form. I will say this, if he'd actually followed the rules and not kept going to a private gym for boxing lessons, maybe he would be slightly less shit than he is now? H It might be an excuse but it also might be a real issue that hasn't been properly researched yet because of the pressures on the health system and the concentration on the vaccine program. My point is that if people on the street can get long covid and it can affect them to the point where it ranges from breathlessness to completely wiping them out, then it can affect footballers. If it affects footballers, who are super fit athletes, then what if it only affects them by a hidden 5% or so? Not enough for them to notice the same as me or you might, but to the point where they are just a bit sluggish and that they redline a bit more sooner than normal? Ultimately, the most intelligent and highly trained scientists on the planet still do not understand this virus properly. I get your point about the gym and I get the general dislike for the bloke in and around the game, but this might be a genuine issue. It might not obviously, time will tell... Surely they're monitored and tested to within an inch of their lives nowadays? Any dramatic deterioration, you'd have hoped, would be spotted?
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 10:08:26 GMT
It might be an excuse but it also might be a real issue that hasn't been properly researched yet because of the pressures on the health system and the concentration on the vaccine program. My point is that if people on the street can get long covid and it can affect them to the point where it ranges from breathlessness to completely wiping them out, then it can affect footballers. If it affects footballers, who are super fit athletes, then what if it only affects them by a hidden 5% or so? Not enough for them to notice the same as me or you might, but to the point where they are just a bit sluggish and that they redline a bit more sooner than normal? Ultimately, the most intelligent and highly trained scientists on the planet still do not understand this virus properly. I get your point about the gym and I get the general dislike for the bloke in and around the game, but this might be a genuine issue. It might not obviously, time will tell... Surely they're monitored and tested to within an inch of their lives nowadays? Any dramatic deterioration, you'd have hoped, would be spotted? Of course they are it's a very lame excuse.
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Post by salfordstokie on Feb 17, 2021 10:10:19 GMT
Thought McClean spoke very well in his interview with Sky Sports. Anyone who thinks he 'asks for it' or 'doesn't help himself' needs to educate themselves and try to understand the vile abuse he gets. If people think that is acceptable they are moronic. Oh hey up thick 'corona virus is a myth' fuckwitt is back. Absolute fucking whale omelette. H You've done a pretty good job of demonstrating your own intelligence levels with that response.
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Post by salfordstokie on Feb 17, 2021 10:12:50 GMT
Thought McClean spoke very well in his interview with Sky Sports. Anyone who thinks he 'asks for it' or 'doesn't help himself' needs to educate themselves and try to understand the vile abuse he gets. If people think that is acceptable they are moronic. View Attachment yep doesn't help himself pretty much sums him up. He admits that was a joke that didnt go down well and that he shouldn't have done it. The context behind that was nearly a decade of the most appalling abuse. Anyone would snap under the sort of vitriol he receives.
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 10:19:20 GMT
He admits that was a joke that didnt go down well and that he shouldn't have done it. The context behind that was nearly a decade of the most appalling abuse. Anyone would snap under the sort of vitriol he receives. Was this a joke. He courts controversy deliberately then complains when other morons react, if he is truly concerned about his families welfare he should be careful how he acts on un social media platforms.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 10:55:46 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought. His work rate is still there and he's fit enough to go boxing after training. I thought he played well against Brentford earlier in the season but apart from that he was poor before covid. What we are seeing now is what he's done for the first season here and up until Mons appointment. Give him credit for the second half of last season where he played a huge part in keeping us up but overall he just hasn't been good enough
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Post by salfordstokie on Feb 17, 2021 11:07:14 GMT
He admits that was a joke that didnt go down well and that he shouldn't have done it. The context behind that was nearly a decade of the most appalling abuse. Anyone would snap under the sort of vitriol he receives. Was this a joke. He courts controversy deliberately then complains when other morons react, if he is truly concerned about his families welfare he should be careful how he acts on un social media platforms.
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Yes it was, a lot of what McClean puts on social media is a reaction to the abuse he receives. He doesn't support terrorism and nor does he hate Britain. But if someone is being spat at in public, receving death threats (not only to themselves but also their family) and is doing so on a daily basis, then quite frankly I can forgive the odd misguided instagram post. To try and argue that it is somehow his own fault that he is receiving this abuse is ridiculous in my opinion.
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Post by RAF on Feb 17, 2021 11:10:32 GMT
Oh hey up thick 'corona virus is a myth' fuckwitt is back. Absolute fucking whale omelette. H You've done a pretty good job of demonstrating your own intelligence levels with that response. Bore off troll Go and pedal your nonsense elsewhere. H
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 11:12:49 GMT
Was this a joke. He courts controversy deliberately then complains when other morons react, if he is truly concerned about his families welfare he should be careful how he acts on un social media platforms.
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Yes it was, a lot of what McClean puts on social media is a reaction to the abuse he receives. He doesn't support terrorism and nor does he hate Britain. But if someone is being spat at in public, receving death threats (not only to themselves but also their family) and is doing so on a daily basis, then quite frankly I can forgive the odd misguided instagram post. To try and argue that it is somehow his own fault that he is receiving this abuse is ridiculous in my opinion. Attachment Deleted Here he is with a bloke who clearly wasn't a terrorist.
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Post by RAF on Feb 17, 2021 11:20:26 GMT
Yes it was, a lot of what McClean puts on social media is a reaction to the abuse he receives. He doesn't support terrorism and nor does he hate Britain. But if someone is being spat at in public, receving death threats (not only to themselves but also their family) and is doing so on a daily basis, then quite frankly I can forgive the odd misguided instagram post. To try and argue that it is somehow his own fault that he is receiving this abuse is ridiculous in my opinion. View Attachment Here he is with a bloke who clearly wasn't a terrorist. I don't condone any of the death threats or vile abuse he gets, especially where his family is concerned but you keep putting stuff on social media like he does you are going to attract nutcases. To keep palming his antics off as jokes doesn't cut any ice with some people. If I were him I'd delete my accounts and just get on with my job, certainly if I was really worried about my family. But thats just me. H
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Post by crapslinger on Feb 17, 2021 11:23:43 GMT
I don't condone any of the death threats or vile abuse he gets, especially where his family is concerned but you keep putting stuff on social media like he does you are going to attract nutcases. To keep palming his antics off as jokes doesn't cut any ice with some people. If I were him I'd delete my accounts and just get on with my job, certainly if I was really worried about my family. But thats just me. H 100% most normal people would.
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Post by mattyd2 on Feb 17, 2021 11:29:39 GMT
Can I raise a serious point here about McClean, without the usual barrage of abuse that normally comes with him? We know he isn't a natural footballer but we've always seen his drive, desire and workrate. We don't seem to be getting that at the moment and he seems sluggish to me. Back in November he tested positive for COVID with Matt Doherty. LinkNow most footballers will get over it quickly as they are super fit but with the new and not very well understood 'long covid' that some people seem to be getting it gets me wondering about how that might affect footballers? Are some footballers affected by it and are some footballers seeing a slight drop off in their performance, not to the point where it affects them like me and you with complete fatigue, but to the point where they just aren't as sharp and reactive, aswell as reducing their stamina since their fitness levels will be super high to start off with? I'm not trying to make excuses for him but this may, or may not, be a real thing that our doctors and scientists just haven't properly discovered and researched yet due to the front line pressures. It would be interesting to see the actual figures and data (we'll never see it...) from clubs before and after, and would be interesting to garner opinions on other players around the country who have tested positive and since recovered. Just a thought. You do raise a good point, but surely any long covid symptoms would show up in training. He was shit before covid and he is shit after it, and he is a devisive unlikeable bloke to go with it.
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Post by Deleted on Feb 17, 2021 11:32:47 GMT
Absolute garbage from him again. Get out of the club. I wonder if Rowett still rates him highly enough to take him on loan ? I doubt even Rowett would take him mate. He has never been a good footballer but lately he is even worse than he was
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