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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 10, 2020 21:19:27 GMT
It probably was, but reality might have other ideas in the future...we just don't know. If we draw tomorrow and go above Huddersfield, then neither Luton nor Huddersfield get above 47 points, today's result could be argued as the one that keeps us up. It's all ifs, buts, maybes. The games we desperately, unequivocally need to go one way this weekend are Charlton v Reading, Hull v Millwall and Middlesbrough v Bristol City. If any of the home sides win then it fucks us up, especially Hull. They're the ones I'll be shitting myself over. Barnsley v Wigan though is another, like today, that we think we might know the best outcome for, but which could end up, depending on future results, seeing the perceived 'best' outcome actually turn out to be the worst one! Hull are at least going down fighting, showing decent attitude and playing like it actually means something to them. If we lose Sunday I don’t see us surviving Nor me. I'm absolutely bricking it. Unlike the players- those twats probably haven't even looked who we're playing.
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Post by Uncle cheese on Jul 10, 2020 21:21:56 GMT
Just watching Fulham Cardiff match, we're a million miles away from Fulham quality wise Yet we beat them this season, they had a lot of the ball if I remember rightly but i think it was a fairly comfortable win? I’m convinced we just have a bunch of cunts who think they can can just turn up and win games
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 10, 2020 21:24:44 GMT
Hull are at least going down fighting, showing decent attitude and playing like it actually means something to them. If we lose Sunday I don’t see us surviving Nor me. I'm absolutely bricking it. Unlike the players- those twats probably haven't even looked who we're playing. Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now
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Post by Paul Spencer on Jul 10, 2020 21:25:47 GMT
Of course but that doesn't alter the fact that a Luton win, was the worst possible result for us today. It probably was, but reality might have other ideas in the future...we just don't know. If we draw tomorrow and go above Huddersfield, then neither Luton nor Huddersfield get above 47 points, today's result could be argued as the one that keeps us up. It's all ifs, buts, maybes. The games we desperately, unequivocally need to go one way this weekend are Charlton v Reading, Hull v Millwall and Middlesbrough v Bristol City. If any of the home sides win then it fucks us up, especially Hull. They're the ones I'll be shitting myself over. Barnsley v Wigan though is another, like today, that we think we might know the best outcome for, but which could end up, depending on future results, seeing the perceived 'best' outcome actually turn out to be the worst one! If we win on Sunday and had Luton lost today and Barnsley lose tomorrow, then both teams would need to win all their remaining games to finish above us, even if we didn't pick up another point for the rest of the season but if Barnsley win tomorrow (and coupled with the Luton win today) then our win against Brum doesn't carry anywhere near as much purchase. And if we actually lose against Brum, then the Luton and Barnsley wins pile intense pressure on us, that wouldn't have been anywhere near the same level had they both lost. Obviously completely agree on the Charlton, Hull and Boro games.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Jul 10, 2020 21:31:35 GMT
Nor me. I'm absolutely bricking it. Unlike the players- those twats probably haven't even looked who we're playing. Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now “Play trans” Is this a new mixed gender league 😱
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Post by Olgrligm on Jul 10, 2020 21:37:04 GMT
oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/292125/stephen-ward?page=1You'll have to take my word for it, but I was very much suggesting that Luton would stay up before tonight's game. I'm not buying into any of that stuff about 'oh, well, we deserve to go down', either. I just think that the best chance of us surviving would be with the pool of teams still in the mire spread as wide as possible, rather than a straight shootout between us and Hull/Luton/Barnsley. If Huddersfield had won tonight, I don't think it would have meant that it would have resulted in a straight shoot out between just us Hull, Luton and Barnsley at all. And furthermore, it would have meant that Luton would have to win two of their remaining three games to finish above us, even if we didn't pick up another single point. I will admit that I hadn't twigged that Luton only have three games left - I've got a bit muddled up with games taking place seemingly at random times and dates. Whichever way things happen, and whatever the other clubs do, we need four points from four games to stay up and our fate is entirely in our hands. The only exception to that would be if Wigan get a 20 point deduction, in which case they couldn't match us even if they won all of their games, and Wednesday get a 12 point deduction. In that case, we would have to do something pretty catastrophic to go down.
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Post by smallthorner on Jul 10, 2020 21:38:41 GMT
Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now “Play trans” Is this a new mixed gender league 😱 Crossdressing rooms??
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Post by Uncle cheese on Jul 10, 2020 21:46:53 GMT
Nor me. I'm absolutely bricking it. Unlike the players- those twats probably haven't even looked who we're playing. Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now Millwall do have something to play for but your right I do think these 3 may win tomorrow
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Post by Trouserdog on Jul 10, 2020 21:48:21 GMT
It probably was, but reality might have other ideas in the future...we just don't know. If we draw tomorrow and go above Huddersfield, then neither Luton nor Huddersfield get above 47 points, today's result could be argued as the one that keeps us up. It's all ifs, buts, maybes. The games we desperately, unequivocally need to go one way this weekend are Charlton v Reading, Hull v Millwall and Middlesbrough v Bristol City. If any of the home sides win then it fucks us up, especially Hull. They're the ones I'll be shitting myself over. Barnsley v Wigan though is another, like today, that we think we might know the best outcome for, but which could end up, depending on future results, seeing the perceived 'best' outcome actually turn out to be the worst one! If we win on Sunday and had Luton lost today and Barnsley lose tomorrow, then both teams would need to win all their remaining games to finish above us, even if we didn't pick up another point but if Barnsley win tomorrow (and with the Luton win today) then our win against Brum doesn't carry anywhere near as much purchase. And if we actually lose against Brum, then the Luton and Barnsley wins pile intense pressure on us, that wouldn't have been anywhere near the same level had they both lost. Obviously completely agree on the Charlton, Hull and Boro games. I do agree that Luton winning was the least desirable outcome for us based on probability, so don't want to disappear down a rabbithole of ifs, buts and maybes for the purpose of playing devil's advocate, but I think the point stands that we shouldn't get too downhearted about these sort of results while we can only perceive the likelihood of different future outcomes (if only for the sake of trying to stay positive!) Make no mistake, Huddersfield are absolute shite, and getting them below us COULD be vital. Looking at their results, the only teams they've beaten in the last few months have been fellow relegation strugglers and every time I watch them they look abysmal. Sheff Wed away, West Brom home, Millwall away not the easiest set of fixtures either. I mean, how bad must they be to lose 2-5 to us!? Fucking hell, we really have to win on Sunday.
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Post by heworksardtho on Jul 10, 2020 22:18:24 GMT
We only need to worry about ourselves , fuck this tin pot league and shit teams 😎
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Post by upthefud on Jul 11, 2020 0:17:03 GMT
We could be the first team in history to be relegated as the result of a world wide Pandemic. Had this bloody virus nota happened we were on a roll. Put that in your Stats Borris and Cousins. 🥺 👎 Hearts were literally relegated because the SPL didn’t resume
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Post by Davef on Jul 11, 2020 16:00:10 GMT
Nor me. I'm absolutely bricking it. Unlike the players- those twats probably haven't even looked who we're playing. Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now Looks like you need a new crystal ball.
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Post by AlliG on Jul 11, 2020 16:14:20 GMT
Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now Looks like you need a new crystal ball. But he didn't say whether they were male to female or female to male trans as surely that would make a difference.
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Post by lordb on Jul 11, 2020 16:28:08 GMT
Nor me. I'm absolutely bricking it. Unlike the players- those twats probably haven't even looked who we're playing. Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now You keep forgetting that just because we can be shit si can other sides.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 11, 2020 16:49:54 GMT
Fancy Charlton Hull and Boro could all win , no crowd anxiety and playing trans who are in the quiet zone now Looks like you need a new crystal ball. m I agree it’s been working fine till now but I really didn’t exist them all to lose Just makes tomorrow a huge opportunity Rather than the last throw of the dice bit whatever the others do it’s up to us I’ll spend the night on eBay looking for a new ball
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Post by Deleted on Jul 11, 2020 17:49:23 GMT
Another result to confirm , what many already suspect ...that there is a problem with the running of Stoke city FC , regardless of who is the manager
Basically Rowett or NJ would find it for some reason , easier to manage at Millwall or Luton , than at Stoke
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Post by Billy the kid on Jul 12, 2020 8:58:32 GMT
Anyone from Birmingham down could still drop, with a win today would put us at the top of the pile. With 3 games to go it’s all very much to play for, despite our last 3 opponents.
Christ it’s all very close.
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