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Aug 13, 2024 16:59:20 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 13, 2024 16:59:20 GMT
I haven’t said there isn’t an issue. Knife crime is a problem in London. It is nearly as high as it was when Boris Johnson was mayor, but nobody paid much attention to it then. I have lived in Truro, Stoke and London (about a third of my life in each, and I have excluded places I have loved in for under 5 years) and I have had more personal experience of crime in Stoke, then Truro, followed by London (not committed by me before anyone says it (Badger)). Knife crime? Thankfully i have never come across knife crime anywhere. It is high in London though. That doesn’t make it a no go city etc
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Post by tommycarlsberg on Aug 13, 2024 16:59:34 GMT
Full of pretentious tossers I’m afraid. I've been in here at the behest of work associates and I can attest that it's indeed the cuntiest pub in London,if not the entire UK.* *And I've been to The Shacklewell Arms It doesn't surprise me you feel that way which is about the biggest compliment I could pay you.
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Aug 13, 2024 17:05:45 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2024 17:05:45 GMT
Thankfully i have never come across knife crime anywhere. It is high in London though. That doesn’t make it a no go city etc It is a stabbings thread mate, crime in general i would imagine to be possibly higher elsewhere per square mile or whatever metric is used but we are talking knife crime in particular aren’t we? I haven’t read the last few pages, I just get a sense of Deja vu when you post on here though like a sixth sense😉
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Aug 13, 2024 17:19:47 GMT
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 13, 2024 17:19:47 GMT
Thankfully i have never come across knife crime anywhere. It is high in London though. That doesn’t make it a no go city etc It is a stabbings thread mate, crime in general i would imagine to be possibly higher elsewhere per square mile or whatever metric is used but we are talking knife crime in particular aren’t we? I haven’t read the last few pages, I just get a sense of Deja vu when you post on here though like a sixth sense😉 You need to read more of the thread. I was responding to someone who said you can’t walk through Leicester Square with children. I did. We all survived.
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2024 17:23:15 GMT
It is a stabbings thread mate, crime in general i would imagine to be possibly higher elsewhere per square mile or whatever metric is used but we are talking knife crime in particular aren’t we? I haven’t read the last few pages, I just get a sense of Deja vu when you post on here though like a sixth sense😉 You need to read more of the thread. I was responding to someone who said you can’t walk through Leicester Square with children. I did. We all survived. I gave it up a while ago, there comes a point where it’s useless knocking.
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Post by elystokie on Aug 13, 2024 17:34:57 GMT
Thankfully i have never come across knife crime anywhere. It is high in London though. That doesn’t make it a no go city etc It is a stabbings thread mate, crime in general i would imagine to be possibly higher elsewhere per square mile or whatever metric is used but we are talking knife crime in particular aren’t we? I haven’t read the last few pages, I just get a sense of Deja vu when you post on here though like a sixth sense😉 The main thrust of the argument between oggy and tezzy as far as I can see has been the culpability or otherwise of Sadiq Khan, so the argument stands. Objection overruled 😉
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Post by milton58 on Aug 13, 2024 17:35:31 GMT
i dont think sticking a few guys posting shit online in prison solves anything makes great headlines it seems very authtarian to me and brushes the real issues aside ********** pleaded guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and was handed a sentence of 32 months sex pest in tonights sentinel not given jail time put on register....this country is fucked...kier coming down hard on anyone who was involved in the unrest to nip in the bud...before it escalated it's bollocks
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Aug 13, 2024 17:36:36 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2024 17:36:36 GMT
It is a stabbings thread mate, crime in general i would imagine to be possibly higher elsewhere per square mile or whatever metric is used but we are talking knife crime in particular aren’t we? I haven’t read the last few pages, I just get a sense of Deja vu when you post on here though like a sixth sense😉 The main thrust of the argument between oggy and tezzy as far as I can see has been the culpability or otherwise of Sadiq Khan, so the argument stands. Objection overruled 😉 In that case I agree with Tezzy. Bring back stop and search, is that his job?🤷🏻♂️(Khan I mean)
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Post by salopstick on Aug 13, 2024 17:42:43 GMT
i dont think sticking a few guys posting shit online in prison solves anything makes great headlines it seems very authtarian to me and brushes the real issues aside ********** pleaded guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and was handed a sentence of 32 months The riots were wrong The shit spouted online are wrong Some of these sentences are ridiculous 32 months when paedos get let off with soft sentences makes these sentences for the riots very authoritarian. You could argue that successive governments by their inaction over immigration are stirring up the same racial hatred
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Post by salopstick on Aug 13, 2024 17:43:39 GMT
Thankfully i have never come across knife crime anywhere. It is high in London though. That doesn’t make it a no go city etc It makes certain parts of it no go
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2024 17:46:01 GMT
********** pleaded guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and was handed a sentence of 32 months The riots were wrong The shit spouted online are wrong Some of these sentences are ridiculous 32 months when paedos get let off with soft sentences makes these sentences for the riots very authoritarian. You could argue that successive governments by their inaction over immigration are stirring up the same racial hatred Your last point is the one I’ve been trying to make before on this thread so expect a load of shit for that view😉
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Aug 13, 2024 17:48:31 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Aug 13, 2024 17:48:31 GMT
The main thrust of the argument between oggy and tezzy as far as I can see has been the culpability or otherwise of Sadiq Khan, so the argument stands. Objection overruled 😉 In that case I agree with Tezzy. Bring back stop and search, is that his job?🤷🏻♂️(Khan I mean) Apparently everything is his job or his fault, including stabbings in other cities 🤷
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Aug 13, 2024 17:49:46 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2024 17:49:46 GMT
In that case I agree with Tezzy. Bring back stop and search, is that his job?🤷🏻♂️(Khan I mean) Apparently everything is his job or his fault, including stabbings in other cities 🤷 Is it his job to implement stop and search of deemed necessary?
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Aug 13, 2024 18:12:28 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Aug 13, 2024 18:12:28 GMT
Apparently everything is his job or his fault, including stabbings in other cities 🤷 Is it his job to implement stop and search of deemed necessary? Not a clue.
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Post by oggyoggy on Aug 13, 2024 18:20:08 GMT
Thankfully i have never come across knife crime anywhere. It is high in London though. That doesn’t make it a no go city etc It makes certain parts of it no go No it doesn’t
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Aug 13, 2024 18:22:56 GMT
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Post by emretezzy on Aug 13, 2024 18:22:56 GMT
Is it his job to implement stop and search of deemed necessary? Not a clue. No its batman apparently.
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Aug 13, 2024 18:24:50 GMT
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 13, 2024 18:24:50 GMT
Is it his job to implement stop and search of deemed necessary? Not a clue. Makes sense😉 Let’s say it is up to him, what’s he fucking about at?
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Aug 13, 2024 18:49:23 GMT
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Post by elystokie on Aug 13, 2024 18:49:23 GMT
Makes sense😉 Let’s say it is up to him, what’s he fucking about at? Dunno but whatever it is it seems to be working for the voters 🤷
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Aug 13, 2024 21:33:51 GMT
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Post by gawa on Aug 13, 2024 21:33:51 GMT
I know he isn't everyone's cup of tea and I don't necessarily agree with everything he says here. But Westminster is a much duller place without Galloway.
It's a shame Farage ducked a debate with him. Would have made excellent viewing.
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Post by skip on Aug 13, 2024 23:58:52 GMT
I like* how Croydon has it's own non-London postcode (CR), and is neither London nor Kent. Proper hinterlands shizzle. it’s Surrey not Kent mate. I knew that when I wrote it but for some reason didn't correct it. So, yes.
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Post by skip on Aug 14, 2024 0:05:02 GMT
I know he isn't everyone's cup of tea and I don't necessarily agree with everything he says here. But Westminster is a much duller place without Galloway. Awe. c'mon, he's just a grifting little cunt.
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 14, 2024 8:00:50 GMT
********** pleaded guilty to publishing written material to stir up racial hatred and was handed a sentence of 32 months The riots were wrong The shit spouted online are wrong Some of these sentences are ridiculous 32 months when paedos get let off with soft sentences makes these sentences for the riots very authoritarian. You could argue that successive governments by their inaction over immigration are stirring up the same racial hatred The sentences for those inciting and involved in the riots are at the high end as part of a deliberate policy to deter people from getting involved in riots. And it's working. As it did when Starmer introduced the approach as Chief Prosecutor during tbe 2011 riots. You can call it authoritarian if you like but the main thing is in terms of preventing criminal danage and violence it's doing the job. The sentencing of paedophiles may be an issue but it has nothing to do with sentencing policy to deter rioting - in fact they very idea that rioters should be given lighter sentences because paedophiles are is just bizarre.
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Post by phileetin on Aug 14, 2024 8:37:38 GMT
so somebody who fucks up a dustbin deserves a harsher penalty than someone who fucks up a child ?
yeah , i can see where you're coming from .
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Aug 14, 2024 8:40:53 GMT
so somebody who fucks up a dustbin deserves a harsher penalty than someone who fucks up a child ? yeah , i can see where you're coming from . He's not saying that at all, is he?
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Aug 14, 2024 8:41:11 GMT
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Post by starkiller on Aug 14, 2024 8:41:11 GMT
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Post by phileetin on Aug 14, 2024 9:18:16 GMT
so somebody who fucks up a dustbin deserves a harsher penalty than someone who fucks up a child ? yeah , i can see where you're coming from . He's not saying that at all, is he? not exactly , but the gist is there.
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Post by salopstick on Aug 14, 2024 9:34:45 GMT
Yet the prime minister and his aides have pointedly avoided answering questions about the underlying causes of the riots. Apparantly the reason for this message discipline is a concern that discussing causes might be misinterpreted as suggesting some of the unrest was justified. www.bbc.co.uk/news/live/czdpnn88n2ptIMO the violence on both sides and prior in Leeds is not justified however it adds crednce to my suggestion that sucessive governments have not done enough to tackle immigration issues, not just the people but the effects of and it does fuel some of violence and hate
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Aug 14, 2024 12:56:27 GMT
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 14, 2024 12:56:27 GMT
so somebody who fucks up a dustbin deserves a harsher penalty than someone who fucks up a child ? yeah , i can see where you're coming from . Error...no. I'm saying reducing the sentence for rioting doesn't solve the problem of too lenient sentences for pardophiles. It's a ridiculous argument. Why are the right obsessed with pardophiles? Is it because if you include "paedophile" in a discussion anything you do can't possibly be that bad and anyone who argues with what you say must be pro paedophilia?
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Post by CBUFAWKIPWH on Aug 14, 2024 12:57:16 GMT
He's not saying that at all, is he? not exactly , but the gist is there. No it isn't.
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Post by spitthedog on Aug 14, 2024 13:12:38 GMT
The riots were wrong The shit spouted online are wrong Some of these sentences are ridiculous 32 months when paedos get let off with soft sentences makes these sentences for the riots very authoritarian. You could argue that successive governments by their inaction over immigration are stirring up the same racial hatred The sentences for those inciting and involved in the riots are at the high end as part of a deliberate policy to deter people from getting involved in riots. And it's working. As it did when Starmer introduced the approach as Chief Prosecutor during tbe 2011 riots. You can call it authoritarian if you like but the main thing is in terms of preventing criminal danage and violence it's doing the job. The sentencing of paedophiles may be an issue but it has nothing to do with sentencing policy to deter rioting - in fact they very idea that rioters should be given lighter sentences because paedophiles are is just bizarre. Exactly, it would get even more warped if you brought comparisons with sentences for Dangerous Driving offences, Fraud, Protesting, Rape, Domestic Violence, carrying an offensive weapon etc into it. Comparing across all these doesn't help one bit. For example, if they wanted longer sentences I suppose they might have considered stopping the traffic on the M25? Can always look good though, depending on the argument you are wanting to make.
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