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Post by FullerMagic on Sept 26, 2020 19:53:27 GMT
I can't see that, Rob. Still think it was needless, even having just seen several replays. At 1-0, you surely just go for a boring, standard finish there, even on your wrong foot. Perhaps it’s just residual pining for the days when we had top level players who could bust that kind of thing out as a matter of course. But it didn’t strike me as showboating, more trying something, which creative people do. To me it didn’t look like a straightforward finish, the keeper was straight out onto it. Just watched a couple more replays - can see where you're coming from having paused it when it breaks to him. Very hard to judge when he just has a split second to assess things. I'll forgive him as we won! Rabona aside, he does look really promising.
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Post by Deleted on Sept 26, 2020 19:57:24 GMT
Hes a quality player.
Let's get behind him, hey?
He oozes class.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2020 20:03:01 GMT
Don’t understand the stick for the rabona, unless it’s just standard Yer Da mistrust of skill. It was hardly a sitter, it came to him quickly, it was close to the keeper and he improvised to try and surprise him and it very nearly worked. No. It’s unnecessary. Do the simple thing and just score. He made the chance harder, that’s never good.
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Post by houstonsteve on Sept 26, 2020 20:09:53 GMT
God forbid a Stoke player tries any kind of split second skill. Thats about 6 inches too high from being EPL goal of the season. Looking forward to when he is fully fit, and has some service in the box, rather than having to come 30 yards down the pitch to find the ball.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 26, 2020 20:12:38 GMT
Don’t understand the stick for the rabona, unless it’s just standard Yer Da mistrust of skill. It was hardly a sitter, it came to him quickly, it was close to the keeper and he improvised to try and surprise him and it very nearly worked. No. It’s unnecessary. Do the simple thing and just score. He made the chance harder, that’s never good. I don’t think it is simple though. The keeper’s immediately on him.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 26, 2020 20:14:24 GMT
No. It’s unnecessary. Do the simple thing and just score. He made the chance harder, that’s never good. I don’t think it is simple though. The keeper’s immediately on him. He is and he’s out of control, I think you should be scoring or winning a peno there.
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Post by cobhamstokey on Sept 26, 2020 20:16:30 GMT
Good player. Should be one of the first names on the teamsheet.
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Post by Bera’s Beano on Sept 26, 2020 20:16:34 GMT
I’m sure he “knew” he was offside so just went for an interesting one.
He looked genuinely gutted he’d wasted it when the flag didn’t go up.
Great effort though.
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Post by foxysgloves on Sept 26, 2020 20:47:09 GMT
No. It’s unnecessary. Do the simple thing and just score. He made the chance harder, that’s never good. I don’t think it is simple though. The keeper’s immediately on him. And Fletcher isn’t square to goal. He’s in an awkward position. He definitely doesn’t strike me as the showboating type either!
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Post by Mint Berry Barks on Sept 26, 2020 21:33:44 GMT
Right bunch of misery guts on here.
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Post by terryconroysmagic on Sept 26, 2020 22:23:27 GMT
I thought he was poor and I’m not convinced that he couldn’t have connected with the ball “normally” and given himself a better chance of scoring. He had a couple of ok touches but so far I’ve been underwhelmed
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Post by datguy on Sept 26, 2020 22:30:07 GMT
Thought he was one of the better ones out there today.
In hindsight the rabona was stupid but to be fair to him, it was a snap decision. Could he have rounded the keeper? Maybe, but the keeper was fast out of the blocks.
The tidy play he did for Clucas' one-on-one is something Vokes simply doesn't offer either.
A solid 7/10. Promising.
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Post by mtrstudent on Sept 27, 2020 0:41:32 GMT
Lad looked knackered by that point but I loved the rabona attempt. Doubt he had enough puff left in him to go round the keeper anyway.
He had to drop deep but showed solid control and distribution, I'm convinced we'd have looked properly shit without him.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 27, 2020 2:13:28 GMT
I'd like to apologise to Fletcher for calling him all the names under the sun at this point! All's well that ends well Taking it round the keeper wouldn’t have necessarily been any easier than what he tried from that position. And presumably he doesn’t have the right foot for a deft chipped finish. And he very nearly scored the GOTS. PL’s verdict: touch of class. (With the minor disclaimer that if I’d seen it live I’d probably have been swearing saltily at him as well)
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Post by LankyPotter on Sept 27, 2020 2:26:09 GMT
Perhaps he didn’t trust his weaker right foot to get under the ball enough with the keeper immediately upon him to chip it over him. He is a striker that has played internationally and in the premier league, he knows better than any of us.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2020 8:26:40 GMT
Perhaps he didn’t trust his weaker right foot to get under the ball enough with the keeper immediately upon him to chip it over him. He is a striker that has played internationally and in the premier league, he knows better than any of us. And he can’t use his right foot. These international footballers. 🤦♂️ I was on about this yesterday actually with a mate of mine, these blokes have been footballers in a professional environment probably since they were 10/12 on average and most of them can’t use both of their feet adequately. So poor.
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Post by bolders on Sept 27, 2020 9:32:47 GMT
Perhaps he didn’t trust his weaker right foot to get under the ball enough with the keeper immediately upon him to chip it over him. He is a striker that has played internationally and in the premier league, he knows better than any of us. And he can’t use his right foot. These international footballers. 🤦♂️ I was on about this yesterday actually with a mate of mine, these blokes have been footballers in a professional environment probably since they were 10/12 on average and most of them can’t use both of their feet adequately. So poor. You have been writing since you were a young’en can you use both hands and produce the same quality?
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Post by lordb on Sept 27, 2020 9:34:47 GMT
Didn't he simply think he was offside?
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 27, 2020 9:55:36 GMT
And he can’t use his right foot. These international footballers. 🤦♂️ I was on about this yesterday actually with a mate of mine, these blokes have been footballers in a professional environment probably since they were 10/12 on average and most of them can’t use both of their feet adequately. So poor. You have been writing since you were a young’en can you use both hands and produce the same quality? It’s not even nearly the same thing to be fair.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2020 9:57:54 GMT
And he can’t use his right foot. These international footballers. 🤦♂️ I was on about this yesterday actually with a mate of mine, these blokes have been footballers in a professional environment probably since they were 10/12 on average and most of them can’t use both of their feet adequately. So poor. You have been writing since you were a young’en can you use both hands and produce the same quality? That has nothing to do with how I do my job.
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Post by nottsover60 on Sept 27, 2020 10:04:05 GMT
Didn't he simply think he was offside? I think this is probably the best explanation. I can't believe any professional footballer would try this at 1-0. It's a good job Preston didn't score the equaliser in those last 15 minutes when they probably deserved one. We wouldn't have been quite as appreciative of his skill then.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 27, 2020 14:44:26 GMT
Perhaps he didn’t trust his weaker right foot to get under the ball enough with the keeper immediately upon him to chip it over him. He is a striker that has played internationally and in the premier league, he knows better than any of us. And he can’t use his right foot. These international footballers. 🤦♂️ I was on about this yesterday actually with a mate of mine, these blokes have been footballers in a professional environment probably since they were 10/12 on average and most of them can’t use both of their feet adequately. So poor. Yeah it’s insane how many times a pro player passes up (or messes up) a routine chance because they’re afraid of using their wrong foot. Should be central to young players’ development, they should be practising that constantly.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2020 15:11:24 GMT
And he can’t use his right foot. These international footballers. 🤦♂️ I was on about this yesterday actually with a mate of mine, these blokes have been footballers in a professional environment probably since they were 10/12 on average and most of them can’t use both of their feet adequately. So poor. Yeah it’s insane how many times a pro player passes up or (messes up) a routine chance because they’re afraid of using their wrong foot. Should be central to young players’ development, they should be practising that constantly. Definitely. Is it a fault of the coaching? You would expect them to want all of their players being able to use both feet. My left foot is useless and this is what bought the conversation on 😂
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Post by Gary Hackett on Sept 27, 2020 15:17:24 GMT
I think he was just trying to impress his new fan base.
After all the boring 'football' these last few seasons he would have been an instant legend if it had gone in.
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Post by The Toxic Avenger on Sept 27, 2020 15:25:57 GMT
Yeah it’s insane how many times a pro player passes up or (messes up) a routine chance because they’re afraid of using their wrong foot. Should be central to young players’ development, they should be practising that constantly. Definitely. Is it a fault of the coaching? You would expect them to want all of their players being able to use both feet. My left foot is useless and this is what bought the conversation on 😂 You'd think there would be a fair degree of personal responsibility on the players to work at it too tbf. Tom Finney used to train with a plimsoll on his stronger foot to discourage him using it so he could work on improving his left.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Sept 27, 2020 15:29:12 GMT
Definitely. Is it a fault of the coaching? You would expect them to want all of their players being able to use both feet. My left foot is useless and this is what bought the conversation on 😂 You'd think there would be a fair degree of personal responsibility on the players to work at it too tbf. Tom Finney used to train with a plimsoll on his stronger foot to discourage him using it so he could work on improving his left. Oh definitely and I nearly added that because even at school/Meir KA they did drills where we could only use our weaker foot and me being me thought it was a load of bullshit 🤦♂️😂 It was only when I played 5 a side properly when I was 19/20 where I could actually pass with my left.
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Post by Northy on Sept 27, 2020 16:09:20 GMT
I'd like to apologise to Fletcher for calling him all the names under the sun at this point! All's well that ends well Taking it round the keeper wouldn’t have necessarily been any easier than what he tried from that position. And presumably he doesn’t have the right foot for a deft chipped finish. And he very nearly scored the GOTS. PL’s verdict: touch of class. (With the minor disclaimer that if I’d seen it live I’d probably have been swearing saltily at him as well) all's he had to do was lay it off to his right with the keeper on the floor and Brown was it, had a clear site of goal with no defenders around.
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Post by bgreen13 on Sept 27, 2020 16:26:16 GMT
Taking it round the keeper wouldn’t have necessarily been any easier than what he tried from that position. And presumably he doesn’t have the right foot for a deft chipped finish. And he very nearly scored the GOTS. PL’s verdict: touch of class. (With the minor disclaimer that if I’d seen it live I’d probably have been swearing saltily at him as well) all's he had to do was lay it off to his right with the keeper on the floor and Brown was it, had a clear site of goal with no defenders around. *Tommy Smith.
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 27, 2020 17:20:14 GMT
Taking it round the keeper wouldn’t have necessarily been any easier than what he tried from that position. And presumably he doesn’t have the right foot for a deft chipped finish. And he very nearly scored the GOTS. PL’s verdict: touch of class. (With the minor disclaimer that if I’d seen it live I’d probably have been swearing saltily at him as well) all's he had to do was lay it off to his right with the keeper on the floor and Brown was it, had a clear site of goal with no defenders around. He was very close to him though, keeper might have easily dived to gather. I think it was an unorthodox but legitimate effort
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Post by PotterLog on Sept 27, 2020 19:29:48 GMT
Yeah it’s insane how many times a pro player passes up or (messes up) a routine chance because they’re afraid of using their wrong foot. Should be central to young players’ development, they should be practising that constantly. Definitely. Is it a fault of the coaching? You would expect them to want all of their players being able to use both feet. My left foot is useless and this is what bought the conversation on 😂 I‘m pretty decent with both feet and I sometimes even take pennos with my right (weaker) foot. To be fair though it’s a natural thing rather than having practiced religiously or anything like that. Probably why it annoys me so much, I can’t comprehend how these pros are not as good as me 😉
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