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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 15:34:13 GMT
I must have been lucky then. The school I went to didn't have any of that from teacher to pupil. Sure, you'd get the odd sarcastic teacher that would say the odd thing or two, but nothing like that. I am glad that schools have improved (at least in that respect). My son is a teacher and he can't believe what teachers could get away with in the 1960s & 70s. Mind you, the teachers my parents had in the 1940s & 50s were far worse. Some of the stories they used to tell would have made my hair curl (if I had any) and most would now be doing time for GBH (at least). We had one teacher who had interrogated suspected German spies during the War. There were times in class when it seemed like he had forgotten that the War was over! One lad in my sister's class took an overdose in the classroom because of the treatment he received from one particular teacher. We had a boy in my class called John Bate. When the teacher called out the register he was always "Master......". Can you imagine how embarrassing that was for him as a 13 year old boy in a mixed class? Again when we were 13/14, one lad turned up in his Prince of Wales tonics instead of the regulation uniform trousers. The English teacher made him take off his trousers and he had to sit at a desk in his underpants in her storeroom for the rest of the lesson (maybe even longer). One thing people forget nowadays is that corporal punishment was allowed in Catholic schools long after it was abolished (or discreetly dropped) in most schools. We had the jam spoon at 5, the slipper at 6, the ruler at 7 and the cane from 9 to 16. Mind you even I was a bit surprised when I went to the 6th form at Holy Joes and discovered that "the strap" was made (in Dublin) specifically and solely for the purpose of beating kids. The happiest days of our lives (or so we are told). Christ!!
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 15:45:59 GMT
I am glad that schools have improved (at least in that respect). My son is a teacher and he can't believe what teachers could get away with in the 1960s & 70s. Mind you, the teachers my parents had in the 1940s & 50s were far worse. Some of the stories they used to tell would have made my hair curl (if I had any) and most would now be doing time for GBH (at least). We had one teacher who had interrogated suspected German spies during the War. There were times in class when it seemed like he had forgotten that the War was over! One lad in my sister's class took an overdose in the classroom because of the treatment he received from one particular teacher. We had a boy in my class called John Bate. When the teacher called out the register he was always "Master......". Can you imagine how embarrassing that was for him as a 13 year old boy in a mixed class? Again when we were 13/14, one lad turned up in his Prince of Wales tonics instead of the regulation uniform trousers. The English teacher made him take off his trousers and he had to sit at a desk in his underpants in her storeroom for the rest of the lesson (maybe even longer). One thing people forget nowadays is that corporal punishment was allowed in Catholic schools long after it was abolished (or discreetly dropped) in most schools. We had the jam spoon at 5, the slipper at 6, the ruler at 7 and the cane from 9 to 16. Mind you even I was a bit surprised when I went to the 6th form at Holy Joes and discovered that "the strap" was made (in Dublin) specifically and solely for the purpose of beating kids. The happiest days of our lives (or so we are told). Christ!!
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Post by scfc75 on May 19, 2020 15:50:36 GMT
Swerving a little off topic I know, but It’s pretty unimaginable for me that there was ever a time when a teacher could openly and legitimately strike a child with a weapon.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 15:53:17 GMT
I am glad that schools have improved (at least in that respect). My son is a teacher and he can't believe what teachers could get away with in the 1960s & 70s. Mind you, the teachers my parents had in the 1940s & 50s were far worse. Some of the stories they used to tell would have made my hair curl (if I had any) and most would now be doing time for GBH (at least). We had one teacher who had interrogated suspected German spies during the War. There were times in class when it seemed like he had forgotten that the War was over! One lad in my sister's class took an overdose in the classroom because of the treatment he received from one particular teacher. We had a boy in my class called John Bate. When the teacher called out the register he was always "Master......". Can you imagine how embarrassing that was for him as a 13 year old boy in a mixed class? Again when we were 13/14, one lad turned up in his Prince of Wales tonics instead of the regulation uniform trousers. The English teacher made him take off his trousers and he had to sit at a desk in his underpants in her storeroom for the rest of the lesson (maybe even longer). One thing people forget nowadays is that corporal punishment was allowed in Catholic schools long after it was abolished (or discreetly dropped) in most schools. We had the jam spoon at 5, the slipper at 6, the ruler at 7 and the cane from 9 to 16. Mind you even I was a bit surprised when I went to the 6th form at Holy Joes and discovered that "the strap" was made (in Dublin) specifically and solely for the purpose of beating kids. The happiest days of our lives (or so we are told). Christ!! The Christian Brothers and Convent schools were notorious for the beatings kids took but something I noticed in them was that kids never misbehaved in class .They went way over the top with straps and canes but teachers controlled the class. You're right re straps, was a company made them especially for beating kids and prisoners. I think Brother Dwan at St Joes had one that was the same one used in Killmainhan Gaol for beating unruly prisoners
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Post by PotterLog on May 19, 2020 16:06:43 GMT
Swerving a little off topic I know, but It’s pretty unimaginable for me that there was ever a time when a teacher could openly and legitimately strike a child with a weapon. That time is now in a lot of places in the world, including several US states.
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Post by mattyd on May 19, 2020 17:08:21 GMT
Swerving a little off topic I know, but It’s pretty unimaginable for me that there was ever a time when a teacher could openly and legitimately strike a child with a weapon. Cane, ruler, slipper, all weapons of choice back in the day.
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Post by Squeekster on May 19, 2020 17:16:32 GMT
I don't know how young some are on here but my comp days teachers would throw board rubbers slap you,it was the norm.
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Post by tonyg6hbq on May 19, 2020 17:38:34 GMT
I must have been lucky then. The school I went to didn't have any of that from teacher to pupil. Sure, you'd get the odd sarcastic teacher that would say the odd thing or two, but nothing like that. I am glad that schools have improved (at least in that respect). My son is a teacher and he can't believe what teachers could get away with in the 1960s & 70s. Mind you, the teachers my parents had in the 1940s & 50s were far worse. Some of the stories they used to tell would have made my hair curl (if I had any) and most would now be doing time for GBH (at least). We had one teacher who had interrogated suspected German spies during the War. There were times in class when it seemed like he had forgotten that the War was over! One lad in my sister's class took an overdose in the classroom because of the treatment he received from one particular teacher. We had a boy in my class called John Bate. When the teacher called out the register he was always "Master......". Can you imagine how embarrassing that was for him as a 13 year old boy in a mixed class? Again when we were 13/14, one lad turned up in his Prince of Wales tonics instead of the regulation uniform trousers. The English teacher made him take off his trousers and he had to sit at a desk in his underpants in her storeroom for the rest of the lesson (maybe even longer). One thing people forget nowadays is that corporal punishment was allowed in Catholic schools long after it was abolished (or discreetly dropped) in most schools. We had the jam spoon at 5, the slipper at 6, the ruler at 7 and the cane from 9 to 16. Mind you even I was a bit surprised when I went to the 6th form at Holy Joes and discovered that "the strap" was made (in Dublin) specifically and solely for the purpose of beating kids. The happiest days of our lives (or so we are told). Remember at Joes how we baited the teachers though to get the strap and some forms kept league tables who got it the most. Steptoe/sub/inky. We all took the p i s s 🤣
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Post by tonyg6hbq on May 19, 2020 17:40:10 GMT
The Christian Brothers and Convent schools were notorious for the beatings kids took but something I noticed in them was that kids never misbehaved in class .They went way over the top with straps and canes but teachers controlled the class. You're right re straps, was a company made them especially for beating kids and prisoners. I think Brother Dwan at St Joes had one that was the same one used in Killmainhan Gaol for beating unruly prisoners The big long split strap that Wub had😱
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Post by mjb2 on May 19, 2020 17:45:59 GMT
SJC (55-65) was scandalous with frustrated "Christian" Brothers beating the hell (literally) out of us. Many were brutal sadists who would be imprisoned in this day and age. One or two were ineffective in using the strap but when you have a mate collapse unconscious from the punishment it is hard to be forgiving!
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Post by mrrburgundy on May 19, 2020 17:48:07 GMT
He was on the Undr the Cosh podcast not so long ago, I thought he came across really well. By the end of his career, he finally realised his lifetime ambition of playing for Cambridge United. From the ones I have listened to, the Luke Chadwick episode was my favourite. He seems a proper decent guy. I stopped listening to the podcast because I found some of the players just came across as idiots and the stuff they thought was funny, wasn't.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 20:18:13 GMT
The Christian Brothers and Convent schools were notorious for the beatings kids took but something I noticed in them was that kids never misbehaved in class .They went way over the top with straps and canes but teachers controlled the class. You're right re straps, was a company made them especially for beating kids and prisoners. I think Brother Dwan at St Joes had one that was the same one used in Killmainhan Gaol for beating unruly prisoners The big long split strap that Wub had😱 The Tawse strap. Strange you could buy teacher's straps thinking back. I once got strapped on a broken wrist. Imagine that now. Was broken in 3 places and late for a lesson so was strapped on the breaks. Was a bit sore.
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Post by Deleted on May 19, 2020 23:41:49 GMT
He was on the Undr the Cosh podcast not so long ago, I thought he came across really well. By the end of his career, he finally realised his lifetime ambition of playing for Cambridge United. From the ones I have listened to, the Luke Chadwick episode was my favourite. He seems a proper decent guy. I stopped listening to the podcast because I found some of the players just came across as idiots and the stuff they thought was funny, wasn't. Same here. Parkin and his mate from Bolton are really unfunny - they’re just so basic. Every time anyone talks about a big win or a promotion, Parkin is quick with “I bet you had a good drink that night?” Clive Allen and Mark Crossley clearly dont warm to the hosts - because they’re decent blokes with a brain.
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