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Post by werrington on May 18, 2020 15:28:12 GMT
I never got personal about their appearance ....the two scenarios are not comparable mate And people do go too far which was my point after that Ipswich match which I was trying to point out but it just became a joke to people so I gave up Ipswich? I disagree mate and having seen you in action with regards to a certain capped one😄I beg to differ😄 I must be hardened off to it after years of abuse Ipswich away I never once gave Pulis personal abuse about his appearance Steve ....never |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 18, 2020 15:29:42 GMT
Ipswich? I disagree mate and having seen you in action with regards to a certain capped one😄I beg to differ😄 I must be hardened off to it after years of abuse Ipswich away I never once gave Pulis personal abuse about his appearance Steve ....never Ok I believe you🤔😄 |
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Post by Pugsley on May 18, 2020 15:30:26 GMT
Also felt it was a great response by Nick Hancock. Absolutely. |
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Post by felonious on May 18, 2020 15:40:14 GMT
It was certainly unusual seeing a heartfelt and fulsome apology wasn't it. They're very much out of fashion these days. It shouldn’t of been needed as he shouldn’t of done it in the first place I used to cringe listening to it back then as much as I do listening to similar stuff now As somebody who went through school wearing glasses it cut like a knife and some words used back then still make my stomach churn now Here’s a thread I started with similar to what this thread is all about 15 months ago and just look at some of the replies on it in regards personal abuse oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286333/personal-abuse-woods-clucasThese are grown people also ....still, it’s only a laugh Remember it well, it was as depressing as this one will become. |
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Post by lordb on May 18, 2020 16:07:07 GMT
really enjoyed Chadwick & Gallagher under Boskamp
two great signings by Rudge
Broomes & Buxton though...
anyway when Chadwick felt he had to move closer to his home (fair enough) TP's signing of Liam Lawrence was very timely & in the end an even better player
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Post by Seymour Beaver on May 18, 2020 16:17:47 GMT
No we get it worse to our face. Or physically attacked for it. Right, which is terrible, but it's the huge, relentless national exposure of it that make Chadwick and Jason Lee's cases noteworthy isn't it. And I'm sure they got more of it to their face than most too. I thought it was quite enlightening. And as said above, a mature and candid response from Hancock, even if he did choose to deliver it in his pyjamas from the stairwell of a beer cellar. Fundamental difference between Chadwick and Lee. I never felt comfortable even at the time about Chadwick as it was personal about the face he was born with. Lee's fashion choice of a hairstyle was fair game - as were the multitude of daft barnets Beckham displayed during his playing career. |
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Post by Pretty Little Boother on May 18, 2020 16:34:05 GMT
I don't even think Chadwick is noticeably ugly, he's a bit on the goofy side of average maybe when you specifically look for it, but if you passed 19 year old Luke Chadwick in the middle of Hanley on a weekend you wouldn't give him a second glance.
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 18, 2020 16:35:21 GMT
I don't even think Chadwick is noticeably ugly, he's a bit on the goofy side of average maybe when you specifically look at him, but if you passed 19 year old Luke Chadwick in the middle of Hanley on a weekend you wouldn't give him a second glance. Baddumtisch. |
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Post by wherty on May 18, 2020 17:09:49 GMT
Became friends with luke when he was at stoke but became a little distant when he left. Caught back up with him again 2 years ago via Facebook and he's still a top lad and very humble.
If you read this Nick or anybody knows Nick Hancocks username then I'm more than happy to pass on his details. Saying that I'm sure the personal apology has already been done by now.
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Post by scfc1863 on May 18, 2020 17:23:50 GMT
I seem to remember Luke collapsing during a game at Southend, can't recall what caused it but it was a hot day.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on May 18, 2020 17:27:24 GMT
I seem to remember Luke collapsing during a game at Southend, can't recall what caused it but it was a hot day. Opening day of the season I think |
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Post by werrington on May 18, 2020 17:33:06 GMT
I seem to remember Luke collapsing during a game at Southend, can't recall what caused it but it was a hot day. Heat exhaustion |
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Post by PotterLog on May 18, 2020 19:09:56 GMT
Right, which is terrible, but it's the huge, relentless national exposure of it that make Chadwick and Jason Lee's cases noteworthy isn't it. And I'm sure they got more of it to their face than most too. I thought it was quite enlightening. And as said above, a mature and candid response from Hancock, even if he did choose to deliver it in his pyjamas from the stairwell of a beer cellar. Fundamental difference between Chadwick and Lee. I never felt comfortable even at the time about Chadwick as it was personal about the face he was born with. Lee's fashion choice of a hairstyle was fair game - as were the multitude of daft barnets Beckham displayed during his playing career. Yes fair point. He said he kept it like that for longer than he wanted to out of defiance. Fair play to him. |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 18, 2020 20:15:06 GMT
2 things here. 1. what the fuck has happened to Nick Hancock? Has he just come out of an audition for the next Addams Family movie? 2. My one lasting memory of Luke Chadwick was his penalty against Hull at home in the 2006 season (I think) chipped it into Myhills arms without him having to move a muscle. I honestly have to say it was the worst penalty I've ever witnessed being taken by anyone. Just FYI Paul Gallagher missed another penalty and we lost 3-0 with Darryl Russel scoring an own goal got to admit it just wasn't our day (big Jon Parking scored against us as well). From the Oatcake archives - Luke ChadwickGouranga.  |
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Post by AlbertTatlock on May 18, 2020 20:19:21 GMT
Just for the record  Gouranga. |
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Post by george2again on May 19, 2020 1:14:57 GMT
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but sure I remember an Oatcake article with a picture of a Vale striker ( can’t remember his name) with the title ‘ A face only a mother could love’. Am I dreaming this ?
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Post by george2again on May 19, 2020 9:00:46 GMT
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but sure I remember an Oatcake article with a picture of a Vale striker ( can’t remember his name) with the title ‘ A face only a mother could love’. Am I dreaming this ? Remembered, Joe Allon. |
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Post by mattyd on May 19, 2020 9:35:08 GMT
Just for the record Gouranga. Mauled by the Tigers |
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Post by Seymour Beaver on May 19, 2020 9:52:31 GMT
Fundamental difference between Chadwick and Lee. I never felt comfortable even at the time about Chadwick as it was personal about the face he was born with. Lee's fashion choice of a hairstyle was fair game - as were the multitude of daft barnets Beckham displayed during his playing career. Yes fair point. He said he kept it like that for longer than he wanted to out of defiance. Fair play to him. Absolutely - his hair to do what he wants with. In doing so he probably actually raised his profile far higher than it would have been as just a journeyman footballer. Which given that an extreme hairstyle is an expression of vanity then getting noticed is exactly what he wanted. Perhaps just didn't always manifest itself in the way thay he might have liked. |
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Post by AlliG on May 19, 2020 10:40:58 GMT
It was certainly unusual seeing a heartfelt and fulsome apology wasn't it. They're very much out of fashion these days. It shouldn’t of been needed as he shouldn’t of done it in the first place I used to cringe listening to it back then as much as I do listening to similar stuff now As somebody who went through school wearing glasses it cut like a knife and some words used back then still make my stomach churn now Here’s a thread I started with similar to what this thread is all about 15 months ago and just look at some of the replies on it in regards personal abuse oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286333/personal-abuse-woods-clucasThese are grown people also ....still, it’s only a laugh I suspect one of the problems was the frequency and length of time that he was made the butt of the jokes which wore him down. As an example, I was one of two kids in my class during the 1960s who wore reading glasses in class. (Those cheap tortoiseshell plastic NHS ones usually with bits of sellotape to hold them together as you were only allowed one new pair a year). At the time Daktari was on the TV. The programme was set in an African nature reserve and featured Clarence the cross-eyed lion. The first time the teacher called me "Clarence" was not a problem and probably made me smile. After a week it began to pall. After a month I was pretty brassed off and even more so after a year. 50+ years later the only thing I can remember about Mr Dennison is that he called me "Clarence" every time he spoke to me for a year. |
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Post by scfc75 on May 19, 2020 11:01:27 GMT
It shouldn’t of been needed as he shouldn’t of done it in the first place I used to cringe listening to it back then as much as I do listening to similar stuff now As somebody who went through school wearing glasses it cut like a knife and some words used back then still make my stomach churn now Here’s a thread I started with similar to what this thread is all about 15 months ago and just look at some of the replies on it in regards personal abuse oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286333/personal-abuse-woods-clucasThese are grown people also ....still, it’s only a laugh I suspect one of the problems was the frequency and length of time that he was made the butt of the jokes which wore him down. As an example, I was one of two kids in my class during the 1960s who wore reading glasses in class. (Those cheap tortoiseshell plastic NHS ones usually with bits of sellotape to hold them together as you were only allowed one new pair a year). At the time Daktari was on the TV. The programme was set in an African nature reserve and featured Clarence the cross-eyed lion. The first time the teacher called me "Clarence" was not a problem and probably made me smile. After a week it began to pall. After a month I was pretty brassed off and even more so after a year. 50+ years later the only thing I can remember about Mr Dennison is that he called me "Clarence" every time he spoke to me for a year. We had a similar teacher in junior school, early 80’s. incredible looking back what was just accepted as the norm really... this guy made it his personal mission to make every pupil in his class cry at some point. He’d have the whole class join in on a sing-song targeting one individual, or humiliate them in some way (one lad was made to stand at the front and hold a chair out at arms length and not allowed to lower it - poor kid was sobbing). These things really stay with some kids right through their lives. Bullying was rife back then and whilst some things have got better, it still is. |
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Post by werrington on May 19, 2020 11:03:12 GMT
It shouldn’t of been needed as he shouldn’t of done it in the first place I used to cringe listening to it back then as much as I do listening to similar stuff now As somebody who went through school wearing glasses it cut like a knife and some words used back then still make my stomach churn now Here’s a thread I started with similar to what this thread is all about 15 months ago and just look at some of the replies on it in regards personal abuse oatcakefanzine.proboards.com/thread/286333/personal-abuse-woods-clucasThese are grown people also ....still, it’s only a laugh I suspect one of the problems was the frequency and length of time that he was made the butt of the jokes which wore him down. As an example, I was one of two kids in my class during the 1960s who wore reading glasses in class. (Those cheap tortoiseshell plastic NHS ones usually with bits of sellotape to hold them together as you were only allowed one new pair a year). At the time Daktari was on the TV. The programme was set in an African nature reserve and featured Clarence the cross-eyed lion. The first time the teacher called me "Clarence" was not a problem and probably made me smile. After a week it began to pall. After a month I was pretty brassed off and even more so after a year. 50+ years later the only thing I can remember about Mr Dennison is that he called me "Clarence" every time he spoke to me for a year. It grinds people down doesn’t it and it stays mate,It seriously shapes people’s future lives From school kids is horrific enough but when mature ( loosely ) grown adults continue it then it seriously grinds people down when in reality they should be enjoying life Still it’s only a laugh eh |
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Post by thevoid on May 19, 2020 11:21:25 GMT
I don't even think Chadwick is noticeably ugly, he's a bit on the goofy side of average maybe when you specifically look for it, but if you passed 19 year old Luke Chadwick in the middle of Hanley on a weekend you wouldn't give him a second glance. He's Brad Pitt by Hanley standards. |
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Post by thevoid on May 19, 2020 11:24:59 GMT
Forgive me if I’m wrong, but sure I remember an Oatcake article with a picture of a Vale striker ( can’t remember his name) with the title ‘ A face only a mother could love’. Am I dreaming this ? Remembered, Joe Allon. He could eat an apple through a tennis racquet, that fucker. I wonder if Rob Beckett's his love child? |
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Post by theonlooker on May 19, 2020 11:48:51 GMT
Bloody hell, what schools did some of you go to? Teachers bullying kids like that? Man alive!
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Post by lordb on May 19, 2020 11:51:41 GMT
Bloody hell, what schools did some of you go to? Teachers bullying kids like that? Man alive! Any school ever? If schools no longer tolerate bullying by teachers then that's brilliant |
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Post by theonlooker on May 19, 2020 12:09:48 GMT
Bloody hell, what schools did some of you go to? Teachers bullying kids like that? Man alive! Any school ever? If schools no longer tolerate bullying by teachers then that's brilliant I must have been lucky then. The school I went to didn't have any of that from teacher to pupil. Sure, you'd get the odd sarcastic teacher that would say the odd thing or two, but nothing like that. |
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Post by AlliG on May 19, 2020 15:29:13 GMT
Any school ever? If schools no longer tolerate bullying by teachers then that's brilliant I must have been lucky then. The school I went to didn't have any of that from teacher to pupil. Sure, you'd get the odd sarcastic teacher that would say the odd thing or two, but nothing like that. I am glad that schools have improved (at least in that respect). My son is a teacher and he can't believe what teachers could get away with in the 1960s & 70s. Mind you, the teachers my parents had in the 1940s & 50s were far worse. Some of the stories they used to tell would have made my hair curl (if I had any) and most would now be doing time for GBH (at least). We had one teacher who had interrogated suspected German spies during the War. There were times in class when it seemed like he had forgotten that the War was over! One lad in my sister's class took an overdose in the classroom because of the treatment he received from one particular teacher. We had a boy in my class called John Bate. When the teacher called out the register he was always "Master......". Can you imagine how embarrassing that was for him as a 13 year old boy in a mixed class? Again when we were 13/14, one lad turned up in his Prince of Wales tonics instead of the regulation uniform trousers. The English teacher made him take off his trousers and he had to sit at a desk in his underpants in her storeroom for the rest of the lesson (maybe even longer). One thing people forget nowadays is that corporal punishment was allowed in Catholic schools long after it was abolished (or discreetly dropped) in most schools. We had the jam spoon at 5, the slipper at 6, the ruler at 7 and the cane from 9 to 16. Mind you even I was a bit surprised when I went to the 6th form at Holy Joes and discovered that "the strap" was made (in Dublin) specifically and solely for the purpose of beating kids. The happiest days of our lives (or so we are told). |
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Post by jesusmcmuffin on May 19, 2020 15:32:34 GMT
We had a nun teacher who called one kid Porky Pig and another kid Custard because of the colour of his skin. To be honest was taken on the chin and whilst I think people are way too precious and find fault in just about anything today it was a bit harsh looking back. Custard apparently adopted the nickname in his teens so no harm done there
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Post by PotterLog on May 19, 2020 15:33:08 GMT
Yes fair point. He said he kept it like that for longer than he wanted to out of defiance. Fair play to him. Absolutely - his hair to do what he wants with. In doing so he probably actually raised his profile far higher than it would have been as just a journeyman footballer. Which given that an extreme hairstyle is an expression of vanity then getting noticed is exactly what he wanted. Perhaps just didn't always manifest itself in the way thay he might have liked. I prefer to think that was just the way he wanted his hair and had the confidence to say "F you" to the haters |
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