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Post by scfcbrian on May 14, 2020 17:27:25 GMT
When are we predicting fans will return to stadiums? My opinion is. best case scenario: things start progressing fairly well and fans return around October/November time. worst case scenario: we get a second peak of the virus and wait until August 2021 to get back. most realistic scenario: a January 2021 return to watch second half of the season
when does everyone else think?
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Post by citynickscfc on May 14, 2020 17:31:47 GMT
When are we predicting fans will return to stadiums? My opinion is. best case scenario: things start progressing fairly well and fans return around October/November time. worst case scenario: we get a second peak of the virus and wait until August 2021 to get back. most realistic scenario: a January 2021 return to watch second half of the season when does everyone else think? I'm not sure it's worth the risk anytime soon? Maybe this is the future of sport 🤔 unfortunately. I certainly don't want to be riding my families and close ones life any more than necessary, certainly not for short term entertainment. Stadium hygiene is absolutely disgusting, and that has been the case for fast far too long. It's literally the pigstye of venues next to concert events and festivals. Really really disgusting acceptance of hygiene negligence.
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Post by scfcbrian on May 14, 2020 17:34:16 GMT
When are we predicting fans will return to stadiums? My opinion is. best case scenario: things start progressing fairly well and fans return around October/November time. worst case scenario: we get a second peak of the virus and wait until August 2021 to get back. most realistic scenario: a January 2021 return to watch second half of the season when does everyone else think? I'm not sure it's worth the risk anytime soon? Maybe this is the future of sport 🤔 unfortunately. I certainly don't want to be riding my families and close ones life any more than necessary, certainly not for short term entertainment. Stadium hygiene is absolutely disgusting, and that has been the case for fast far too long. It's literally the pigstye of venues next to concert events and festivals. Really really disgusting acceptance of hygiene negligence. Prediction mate? Reward for anyone who gets it😜
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Post by citynickscfc on May 14, 2020 17:38:11 GMT
I'm not sure it's worth the risk anytime soon? Maybe this is the future of sport 🤔 unfortunately. I certainly don't want to be riding my families and close ones life any more than necessary, certainly not for short term entertainment. Stadium hygiene is absolutely disgusting, and that has been the case for fast far too long. It's literally the pigstye of venues next to concert events and festivals. Really really disgusting acceptance of hygiene negligence. Prediction mate? Reward for anyone who gets it😜 I'm guessing about 16,000 crowds but honestly? With the mentality of most? We will probably sell out as soon as the government (experts?lol) say it's safe- queue the mass onslaught of the elderly and vulnerable. I can't see any other outcome unfortunately. The economic pressures and lies will be too much, like bait for the masses. Prediction? - it will be September I'm guessing. Even with a second peak as you call it, which is inevitable and/or you can say that we have not had anywhere near a peak due to the very low numbers who gave actually had it (predicted to be around 5-10% only?) So it will rather be 'the peak' but that's too much of a scary reality and far too difficult for people to swallow, I think they will just say 'we must be resilient' and 'we are doing everything we can', 'we must be strong' etc.
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Post by scfcbrian on May 14, 2020 17:40:31 GMT
Prediction mate? Reward for anyone who gets it😜 I'm guessing about 16,000 crowds but honestly? With the mentality of most? We will probably sell out as soon as the government (experts?lol) say it's safe- queue the mass onslaught of the elderly and vulnerable. I can't see any other outcome unfortunately. The economic pressures and lies will be too much, like bait for the masses. Prediction? - it will be September I'm guessing September sounds very early mate but fair enough, I agree, as soon as football is back then it will be a sell out
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Post by citynickscfc on May 14, 2020 17:46:47 GMT
I'm guessing about 16,000 crowds but honestly? With the mentality of most? We will probably sell out as soon as the government (experts?lol) say it's safe- queue the mass onslaught of the elderly and vulnerable. I can't see any other outcome unfortunately. The economic pressures and lies will be too much, like bait for the masses. Prediction? - it will be September I'm guessing September sounds very early mate but fair enough, I agree, as soon as football is back then it will be a sell out I think the government are just expecting the public to get used to people dieing of this illness, people are already accepting it and the lack of law implemented/adjusted in the UK has been embarrassing. Lots of 'you should' 'it could' 'maybe think about this and and that' but no law. At least in Finland everything must go through law for the government to implement it, and that goes for guidance as people instantly say 'so is there a law' and if there isn't then it isn't justifiable. People generally trust laws, but in the UK at least there is still low trust and tolerance of government and law (unlike here) I guess that's where the government are and were afraid.
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Post by lordb on May 14, 2020 17:58:29 GMT
Obviously no one really knows Gut feeling says January 2021
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Post by PotterLog on May 14, 2020 17:58:39 GMT
I genuinely feel like it might be never at the moment.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 17:59:49 GMT
I'm guessing about 16,000 crowds but honestly? With the mentality of most? We will probably sell out as soon as the government (experts?lol) say it's safe- queue the mass onslaught of the elderly and vulnerable. I can't see any other outcome unfortunately. The economic pressures and lies will be too much, like bait for the masses. Prediction? - it will be September I'm guessing September sounds very early mate but fair enough, I agree, as soon as football is back then it will be a sell out Not long after I don't think. Pubs in Dublin are pushing to open in July, can't see it myself, looking August earliest for me. Football can see October/Nov. As for crowds, yep I agree. If Burger King, KFC and the the bloody tip can create so much enthusiasm and traffic chaos then football should be more popular than ever
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Post by ravey123 on May 14, 2020 18:17:39 GMT
I genuinely feel like it might be never at the moment. I’ve missed about 4 home games in 30 years. But I will not be attending until the cases have dropped to single figures per day for at least 2 weeks. I’m not risking my family for footie. I’ve come to the conclusion this last 6 weeks that I actually don’t miss the football that much anyway. Perhaps I may get out of the habit of going and this becomes my tipping point - time will tell.
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Post by dutchstokie on May 14, 2020 18:18:30 GMT
Just thinking about this today.....
If you look at the basics, when a goal goes in, what do people do? They start shouting and screaming, this releasing huge amounts of gob droplets, beer, spit - the lot...... its reality.
You go down to the bar at half time, sink a pint and have a sing song..... more gob, beers and fluids flying round
I very much doubt we Will see any fans this side of Christmas at matches unfortunately
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Post by 19notbeaten72 on May 14, 2020 20:02:40 GMT
I read tonight that a second peak is almost a certainty & could be a lot worse than what we have seen already. Its predicted to hit us as winter sets in around November time. If thats the case it could be a very long time before we get to visit any football grounds again.
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Post by boskampsflaps on May 14, 2020 20:15:33 GMT
The start of the 2021/22 season.
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Post by Olgrligm on May 14, 2020 20:18:03 GMT
The start of the 2021/22 season. Yeah, before August 2021 just seems reckless.
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Post by fulagoals on May 14, 2020 20:39:08 GMT
Saturday 24th Oct 2020 Stoke City v Aston Villa 1st v 2nd 🤣
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Post by y_oh_y_delilah on May 14, 2020 22:54:29 GMT
Obviously no one, not even the eminent professors, doctors, scientists or politicians, know the answer to that. For me personally, after 48 years a season ticket holder, I’m fairly resigned to the fact I’ll never see Stoke City play a live game again. Truly hope I’m being overly pessimistic but at least my final game, in that case, would be a 5-1 victory.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 14, 2020 23:08:45 GMT
August 2022 is when I think crowds will be fully back in grounds, though you may see smaller attendances allowed before then. Nothing at all before August 2021 though.
Me personally....as per the poster above I’ve probably seen my last live game. Disappointing but I’ve already seen the best of this club in the Prem years so I’m ok with it. I think. I hope.
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Post by danceswithclams on May 14, 2020 23:33:00 GMT
2050
All the players will be robots and the stadium is holographic. Fans 'attend' by having ultra-realistic augmented reality matchday experience beamed directly into their mind via cerebral implant.
James Milner is the only human still playing.
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Post by Deleted on May 14, 2020 23:58:07 GMT
Obviously no one, not even the eminent professors, doctors, scientists or politicians, know the answer to that.For me personally, after 48 years a season ticket holder, I’m fairly resigned to the fact I’ll never see Stoke City play a live game again. Truly hope I’m being overly pessimistic but at least my final game, in that case, would be a 5-1 victory. The Coronavirus thread is full of folk who know more than them
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Post by dutchstokie on May 15, 2020 6:51:53 GMT
Obviously no one, not even the eminent professors, doctors, scientists or politicians, know the answer to that.For me personally, after 48 years a season ticket holder, I’m fairly resigned to the fact I’ll never see Stoke City play a live game again. Truly hope I’m being overly pessimistic but at least my final game, in that case, would be a 5-1 victory. The Coronavirus thread is full of folk who know more than them Thats where the proffesors and doctors get their info from……. I thought that everyone knew this
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Post by raythesailor on May 15, 2020 7:10:28 GMT
Jan 2021 will be the earliest I will even start to think about it.
A lot of water will pass under the bridge between now and then. This could go on for some time. Sad but as someone said earlier my last game at Stoke may be a 5–1 victory.
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Post by flea79 on May 15, 2020 12:10:15 GMT
i dont see us returning for a long time.
i am not going to be following and paying to watch streams of the team, i may look at results/highlights but part of the joy of the game for me is being in the grounds and the biting cold and massive highs and lows of following, not to mention the other fans who provide me with memories fond and otherwise
i hope it doesnt come to this
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Post by StokeOnTour on May 15, 2020 12:16:35 GMT
not until there's a vaccine
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2020 12:17:47 GMT
In Taiwan where they haven't had a new case for a month they are allowing crowds of 2000 for their baseball games.
I still reckon August 2021 at the earliest.
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Post by greystokie on May 15, 2020 12:30:46 GMT
I predict the first game of the new season. Coronavirus will still be around at that time to some degree but I don't think the economy can stand a protracted lock down for much longer than another month. People will just have to decide, themselves, the level of risk they are prepared to take. Age and general health will have a major part to play in arriving at this decision.
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Post by Deleted on May 15, 2020 13:06:35 GMT
In Taiwan where they haven't had a new case for a month they are allowing crowds of 2000 for their baseball games. I still reckon August 2021 at the earliest. Singapore only 21 deaths in total as well. 10 in last 2 months.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on May 15, 2020 13:13:51 GMT
The thing is, what would have to happen to make it safe for normal activity like attending footie matches happen? As it stands, there's absolutely nothing preventing a second spike in cases if we did ease such lockdown measures. The only thing to change that would be a vaccine. And that sounds like it'll be mid-2021 before it's available, and it'll take months to roll out after that: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51665497
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Post by bayernoatcake on May 15, 2020 13:18:37 GMT
In Taiwan where they haven't had a new case for a month they are allowing crowds of 2000 for their baseball games. I still reckon August 2021 at the earliest. Singapore only 21 deaths in total as well. 10 in last 2 months. South Korea have had naff all in a month or two as well. I worked with a couple who now live in Honk Kong and they put stuff on Instragram stories where they're down the beach and life looks pretty ordinary.
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Post by Scrotnig on May 15, 2020 15:13:00 GMT
The thing is, what would have to happen to make it safe for normal activity like attending footie matches happen? As it stands, there's absolutely nothing preventing a second spike in cases if we did ease such lockdown measures. The only thing to change that would be a vaccine. And that sounds like it'll be mid-2021 before it's available, and it'll take months to roll out after that: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51665497Absolutely no point in planning anything around "wait until there's a vaccinne". As most of the scientists will tell you, the greatest likelihood is that there will never be one.
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Post by Kenilworth_Stokies on May 15, 2020 15:50:35 GMT
The thing is, what would have to happen to make it safe for normal activity like attending footie matches happen? As it stands, there's absolutely nothing preventing a second spike in cases if we did ease such lockdown measures. The only thing to change that would be a vaccine. And that sounds like it'll be mid-2021 before it's available, and it'll take months to roll out after that: www.bbc.co.uk/news/health-51665497Absolutely no point in planning anything around "wait until there's a vaccinne". As most of the scientists will tell you, the greatest likelihood is that there will never be one. It's interesting, have you seen that clip of the Swedish scientist talking to a New Zealand TV programme about coming out of lockdown? He makes the point that governments made zero pan as to how we should come out of lockdown. So, literally, this mythical vaccine is the only change case to our current lockdown, other than just coming out of lockdown into a second peak. There is no other plan.
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