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Post by Scrotnig on May 15, 2020 16:45:10 GMT
Absolutely no point in planning anything around "wait until there's a vaccinne". As most of the scientists will tell you, the greatest likelihood is that there will never be one. It's interesting, have you seen that clip of the Swedish scientist talking to a New Zealand TV programme about coming out of lockdown? He makes the point that governments made zero pan as to how we should come out of lockdown. So, literally, this mythical vaccine is the only change case to our current lockdown, other than just coming out of lockdown into a second peak. There is no other plan. Staying in lockdown forever isn't an option and was never the attention. The economy needs to keep going otherwise there's no funding for healthcare or anything else.
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Post by Pedropotter on May 15, 2020 17:00:08 GMT
I'll go for the start of the 2023/24 season.
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Post by simple on May 16, 2020 10:20:31 GMT
It will depend on who is willing to take the blame if it spreads.In Singapore,South Korea the Pepole do as they are told,So is they say grounds can open with every two seats empty and two meter spacing at the turnstiles then they would do that because if they didn’t they would have a big baton wield at them. We would say our human rights are been violated.But football will collapse without crowds ,many teams will disappear,at this moment we are lucky to have a owner who backs us,but he is in his 70s. Most players will have to be made redundant most staff will have to be made redundant,then when the go ahead is given it will be a free for all signing players.
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Post by peekay67 on May 17, 2020 17:36:42 GMT
When are we predicting fans will return to stadiums? My opinion is. best case scenario: things start progressing fairly well and fans return around October/November time. worst case scenario: we get a second peak of the virus and wait until August 2021 to get back. most realistic scenario: a January 2021 return to watch second half of the season when does everyone else think? Come Autumn, and the flu season starts, everyone with cough and fever will have to isolate unless we have instant result tests by then. Plus it may be a second wave AND the flu. Who knows? It will be what will be, but I think it may be long term not at a footie stadium. I hope not. But we will see.
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Post by sharonbeech21 on May 21, 2020 20:39:11 GMT
Dont think we will see any football.this year. I think it will probably be January 2021 for second half of the season providing there isnt another peak of the virus
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on May 21, 2020 20:41:11 GMT
Said weeks ago August 21 earliest
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Post by mickstupp on May 21, 2020 22:08:27 GMT
We’ve been practicing social distancing on our row in block 18 all season
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Post by cheadlepotter on May 21, 2020 23:27:22 GMT
We’ve been practicing social distancing on our row in block 18 all season You’re nothing special. Vale fans have been doing it for years.
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Post by shooters on May 23, 2020 14:29:04 GMT
Maybe next season starts in September when schools return in full. Separate tiers or blocks for those over 65 or at risk , underlying health issues or for the cautious who still choose to go, with more social distancing. The rest, and those that have to carry on with work etc anyway to survive will have to carry on and build up immunity keeping well away from the other group- timed entry/exit and separate car park or buses etc can all be organised and a little.looser on social distancing. The two groups at risk/less at risk should n't mix for a good while yet where possible. No away fans or tested before /coached in and out. Track and trace apps to put a block on crowds and movement if outbreak, and then games go back behind closed doors if bad. The world has to deal with it , manage it and beat it otherwise all just going to be indoors watching old reruns of only fools and horses.
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Post by thestatusquo on May 23, 2020 15:08:26 GMT
It will depend on who is willing to take the blame if it spreads.In Singapore,South Korea the Pepole do as they are told,So is they say grounds can open with every two seats empty and two meter spacing at the turnstiles then they would do that because if they didn’t they would have a big baton wield at them. We would say our human rights are been violated.But football will collapse without crowds ,many teams will disappear,at this moment we are lucky to have a owner who backs us,but he is in his 70s. Most players will have to be made redundant most staff will have to be made redundant,then when the go ahead is given it will be a free for all signing players. No problem up the Vale then 😀
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Post by AlliG on May 23, 2020 15:10:33 GMT
Maybe next season starts in September when schools return in full. Separate tiers or blocks for those over 65 or at risk , underlying health issues or for the cautious who still choose to go, with more social distancing. The rest, and those that have to carry on with work etc anyway to survive will have to carry on and build up immunity keeping well away from the other group- timed entry/exit and separate car park or buses etc can all be organised and a little.looser on social distancing. The two groups at risk/less at risk should n't mix for a good while yet where possible. No away fans or tested before /coached in and out. Track and trace apps to put a block on crowds and movement if outbreak, and then games go back behind closed doors if bad. The world has to deal with it , manage it and beat it otherwise all just going to be indoors watching old reruns of only fools and horses. How many days before kick-off would fans have to start to arrive for all that to happen? How would the pre-entry "frisk" be carried out? Most grounds currently have the minimum allowable toilet facilities. Presume we would have to go back to the "good old days on the terraces" approach. I don't see how crowds can be allowed to return (at least at any event where more than say 5,000 people attend) until all social distancing restrictions are removed. It could be done with automatic temperature checks and compulsory facemasks but beyond that, it doesn't seem feasible.
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Post by franklin66 on May 23, 2020 15:57:02 GMT
I'll go to a game tomorrow I cant stand anymore of this lockdown its soul destroying.
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Post by Trouserdog on May 23, 2020 16:13:42 GMT
I think there'll be some kind of staggered approach to it at first: limited numbers spaced out in stadiums, but God knows when that will be.
Leagues 1 and 2 are unlikely to even go ahead next season if spectators aren't allowed in at all. At best I can see the Prem and Championship maybe playing a half-season where every team plays each other once and all games are televised, mostly via the red button etc.
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Post by danceswithclams on May 26, 2020 0:54:08 GMT
How would the pre-entry "frisk" be carried out? All stewards to be issued with ginormous plastic hands like the ones Kenny Everett used to have, thus ensuring a safe 2m distance when performing the pre-entry search*. [*Taken from the official published SAGE guidence]
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Post by Deleted on May 26, 2020 3:05:40 GMT
How would the pre-entry "frisk" be carried out? All stewards to be issued with ginormous plastic hands like the ones Kenny Everett used to have, thus ensuring a safe 2m distance when performing the pre-entry search*. [*Taken from the official published SAGE guidence] As long as it isn't actually Kenny Everett. Would take hours searching the fans
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Post by superalexneil on May 26, 2020 7:37:13 GMT
I'll go for the start of the 2023/24 season. Seriously?
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Post by scfc75 on May 26, 2020 7:51:54 GMT
How would the pre-entry "frisk" be carried out? All stewards to be issued with ginormous plastic hands like the ones Kenny Everett used to have, thus ensuring a safe 2m distance when performing the pre-entry search*. [*Taken from the official published SAGE guidence] I’ll be honest, the frisk we’ve been getting for a while now is so minimal, it might aswell be conducted from 2m away. I could honestly have carried any weapon into the ground in the past few seasons with no trouble.
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Post by maninasuitcase on May 26, 2020 8:26:51 GMT
All stewards to be issued with ginormous plastic hands like the ones Kenny Everett used to have, thus ensuring a safe 2m distance when performing the pre-entry search*. [*Taken from the official published SAGE guidence] I’ll be honest, the frisk we’ve been getting for a while now is so minimal, it might aswell be conducted from 2m away. I could honestly have carried any weapon into the ground in the past few seasons with no trouble. They kept letting LMH into the ground and he was the biggest weapon ive ever seen in a ground.
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Post by Pedropotter on May 26, 2020 16:49:04 GMT
I'll go for the start of the 2023/24 season. Seriously? Just a wild stab in the dark mate.
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Post by superalexneil on May 26, 2020 20:06:47 GMT
Just a wild stab in the dark mate. Fucking hell mate hope not i think 2021
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Post by toptom007 on May 26, 2020 20:19:54 GMT
Guessing the end of next season. We are already seeing the Home advantage completely dissapear in german football and once the english clubs see this too, I doubt they will want to have the rules change mid season again.
Whats really sad is it might be possible it never returns. Clubs seeing the same proffits from TV ect when the stadium is empty they might not bother with the expence of bringing it back.
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Post by heworksardtho on May 27, 2020 6:13:46 GMT
Not until a vaccine has be found and by then 20/30 clubs would have gone bust
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Post by flea79 on May 27, 2020 8:52:21 GMT
Guessing the end of next season. We are already seeing the Home advantage completely dissapear in german football and once the english clubs see this too, I doubt they will want to have the rules change mid season again. Whats really sad is it might be possible it never returns. Clubs seeing the same proffits from TV ect when the stadium is empty they might not bother with the expence of bringing it back. if this happens im done with the game, i have been saying for ages that this a wet dream for sky, the only way to watch your team is to pay them, they will move heaven and earth to keep us out of them grounds
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Post by scfcbrian on Jun 6, 2020 16:54:43 GMT
Well then
Looks like the aim is to have 25% capacity crowds by September. Any reason why we wont have full capacity stadiums by this winter, if there is no second wave of the virus?
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Post by lordb on Jun 6, 2020 17:06:16 GMT
Well then Looks like the aim is to have 25% capacity crowds by September. Any reason why we wont have full capacity stadiums by this winter, if there is no second wave of the virus? Where's that from?
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Post by Scrotnig on Jun 6, 2020 17:24:53 GMT
Looks like the aim is to have 25% capacity crowds by September. Sez who?
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Post by Deleted on Jun 6, 2020 17:25:30 GMT
How would the pre-entry "frisk" be carried out? All stewards to be issued with ginormous plastic hands like the ones Kenny Everett used to have, thus ensuring a safe 2m distance when performing the pre-entry search*. [*Taken from the official published SAGE guidence] And the fans could be issued with massive Kenny Everett US General shoulders to ensure social distancing inside the ground.
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Post by Squeekster on Jun 6, 2020 17:52:05 GMT
I've heard boxing day was the target being looked at to get fans back in.
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Post by Scrotnig on Jun 6, 2020 18:08:35 GMT
Not going to be fans at games until *at least* the start of the 2021/2022 season, in my opinion.
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Post by walton corner on Jun 6, 2020 18:52:05 GMT
June 27th
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