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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 28, 2024 10:25:34 GMT
As badger as already said you mean the general public You and Badger are wrong of course. Those on your video are not the "general public" are they mate? They're a small bunch of racist knobheads. Again I'm curious as to why you keep sharing stuff like this when you insist to us all who question you that you're definitley not the same as them? Small bunch😂you are funny |
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Post by Northy on Oct 28, 2024 10:33:04 GMT
Who are the thugs supposed to be? No doubt he'll get off with a slap on the wrist from his boss. Looks like that is in Frodsham ? He was the MP for the Northwich area until the boundary changes came into force at the last election. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2024 11:10:21 GMT
You and Badger are wrong of course. Those on your video are not the "general public" are they mate? They're a small bunch of racist knobheads. Again I'm curious as to why you keep sharing stuff like this when you insist to us all who question you that you're definitley not the same as them? Small bunch😂you are funny Can you answer my question please? |
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Oct 28, 2024 11:15:46 GMT
Small bunch😂you are funny Can you answer my question please? Bore off |
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Post by iancransonsknees on Oct 28, 2024 11:17:47 GMT
Makes sense to appoint the experts, they know how to fiddle the system.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2024 11:29:38 GMT
Can you answer my question please? Bore off So no then. |
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Post by Gawa on Oct 28, 2024 11:50:47 GMT
I find it hard to believe that generally intelligent people fall for some of the shit that these organisations come out with. Margaret Hodge accused the very same organisation of "being more concerned with undermining Labour than rooting out antisemitism" This was after Corbyn and under Starmer of course, I mean you couldn't make this stuff up. A non-Jewish board member posed as a Jew under the name "David Goldstein" (or something similar) so he could make up tales of antisemitism by the so-called hard left. They don't give two shits about the scourge of actual anti-Semitism......... The comment from GAWA I was replying to was "This is the changed labour party" I replied that Amesbury was part of the Corbyn wing of the Labour Party My original explanation was insufficient for GAWA to accept and so I followed up with a link to the fellow MPs he has been grouped with and no i don't believe that shit either but Amesbury is far from being part of "the changed Labour" this being a slur on anyone that supports Starmer as opposed to Corbyn which is what I was replying to. But he never has been part of a corbyn wing. You used an accusation of antisemitism to imply that. The fact you're still doubling down on it doesn't reflect well on you. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2024 14:10:37 GMT
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2024 14:12:29 GMT
this does not affect manchester or london because they are run by labour mayors and have different funding |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 28, 2024 14:14:56 GMT
Utter bullshit. To put no fine a point on things. Labour's plan to raise the bus fare cap from £2 to £3 has sparked concerns, but it's not specifically targeted at former coal mining areas in northern England at all. The increase is part of a broader budget strategy to manage public finances and maintain essential services. While the fare hike will impact all regions, including former coal mining areas, it's not a direct attack on these communities. Former coal mining areas do face unique challenges, such as higher unemployment and social disadvantage. Ensuring affordable and reliable public transport is crucial for these communities, and Labour has emphasised the importance of maintaining a fare cap to support rural and disadvantaged areas. |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2024 14:17:15 GMT
Utter bullshit. To put no fine a point on things. Labour's plan to raise the bus fare cap from £2 to £3 has sparked concerns, but it's not specifically targeted at former coal mining areas in northern England at all. The increase is part of a broader budget strategy to manage public finances and maintain essential services. While the fare hike will impact all regions, including former coal mining areas, it's not a direct attack on these communities. Former coal mining areas do face unique challenges, such as higher unemployment and social disadvantage. Ensuring affordable and reliable public transport is crucial for these communities, and Labour has emphasised the importance of maintaining a fare cap to support rural and disadvantaged areas. ok Mrs Starmer |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 28, 2024 14:22:19 GMT
Utter bullshit. To put no fine a point on things. Labour's plan to raise the bus fare cap from £2 to £3 has sparked concerns, but it's not specifically targeted at former coal mining areas in northern England at all. The increase is part of a broader budget strategy to manage public finances and maintain essential services. While the fare hike will impact all regions, including former coal mining areas, it's not a direct attack on these communities. Former coal mining areas do face unique challenges, such as higher unemployment and social disadvantage. Ensuring affordable and reliable public transport is crucial for these communities, and Labour has emphasised the importance of maintaining a fare cap to support rural and disadvantaged areas. ok Mrs Starmer I’m not a massive fan of the man myself, but it’s always worth challenging the nonsense and hyperbole from those on either side - far right and loony left. |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2024 14:27:29 GMT
I’m not a massive fan of the man myself, but it’s always worth challenging the nonsense and hyperbole from those on either side - far right and loony left. whilst Huddy can often be described as loony left he has a point labour now control the budget and everything coming out is only affecting the working middle classes. |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2024 14:46:44 GMT
Utter bullshit. To put no fine a point on things. Labour's plan to raise the bus fare cap from £2 to £3 has sparked concerns, but it's not specifically targeted at former coal mining areas in northern England at all. The increase is part of a broader budget strategy to manage public finances and maintain essential services. While the fare hike will impact all regions, including former coal mining areas, it's not a direct attack on these communities. Former coal mining areas do face unique challenges, such as higher unemployment and social disadvantage. Ensuring affordable and reliable public transport is crucial for these communities, and Labour has emphasised the importance of maintaining a fare cap to support rural and disadvantaged areas. It affects Red Wall constituencies directly, of course it does. The most impoverished usually hit the hardest by rises like this. So no, bullshit it 'aint, mate, |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 28, 2024 14:59:38 GMT
Utter bullshit. To put no fine a point on things. Labour's plan to raise the bus fare cap from £2 to £3 has sparked concerns, but it's not specifically targeted at former coal mining areas in northern England at all. The increase is part of a broader budget strategy to manage public finances and maintain essential services. While the fare hike will impact all regions, including former coal mining areas, it's not a direct attack on these communities.
Former coal mining areas do face unique challenges, such as higher unemployment and social disadvantage. Ensuring affordable and reliable public transport is crucial for these communities, and Labour has emphasised the importance of maintaining a fare cap to support rural and disadvantaged areas.Sounds like government rhetoric to be blunt. The time and effort going into just not taxing the super wealthy is admirable though, it's even got cross party support but much better a working class family living in the arse end of nowhere has to pay more for their bus fare...... |
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Post by prestwichpotter on Oct 28, 2024 15:00:36 GMT
I’m not a massive fan of the man myself, but it’s always worth challenging the nonsense and hyperbole from those on either side - far right and loony left. And by the same token it's always best to challenge the liberal/centrist bullshit meaningless platitudes that they spew out constantly........  |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 28, 2024 15:07:12 GMT
If he were a Tory and it were sexual assault he’d be protected and kept anonymous by the party and certainly not have the whip withdrawn! Piss poor whataboutery! They'd have swept it under the carpet if a member of the public hadn't filmed it. Look forward to him being fast tracked to jail over the next 2 weeks for a 5yr stretch. How is it whataboutary!? Labour have dealt with this very quickly. Rightly so. Surely even you would praise them for it. But it was very different for Tories accused of worse crimes. We all know that. If he is charged and he pleads guilty, I am sure he will be dealt with as quickly as the system can. If he is charged and pleads not guilty, then it will take much longer because that is how a justice system works. We don’t lock people up without charge or without the right to defence, however pitiful the defence could be in the circumstances! |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 28, 2024 15:17:02 GMT
If he were a Tory and it were sexual assault he’d be protected and kept anonymous by the party and certainly not have the whip withdrawn! Absolute bollocks and you know it This mp is suspended because within hours video evidence was available in the public domain What will be interesting is if two tier kier pressures the dpp into a quick charge and he’s in court within days Forgotten about the handling of Chris Pincher have you? The police will investigate, the CPS decide on charging, and the man has a right to plead. But it shouldn’t be rushed else it risks him getting off. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 28, 2024 15:20:13 GMT
I’m not a massive fan of the man myself, but it’s always worth challenging the nonsense and hyperbole from those on either side - far right and loony left. As I have discovered, if you ever praise anything Starmer does, you’re a fanboy for life according to various people on here who see everything as black and white and without nuance. |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 28, 2024 15:22:29 GMT
I’m not a massive fan of the man myself, but it’s always worth challenging the nonsense and hyperbole from those on either side - far right and loony left. whilst Huddy can often be described as loony left he has a point labour now control the budget and everything coming out is only affecting the working middle classes. Do the rich not employee people, pay IHT, CGT, tax on dividends, tax on rental income, or private school fees? Is it only the middle classes? How do you go after the rich only without impacting those who aren’t quite so rich? Wealth tax, perhaps (but they will all leave we are told!) |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2024 15:44:31 GMT
Who are the thugs supposed to be? No doubt he'll get off with a slap on the wrist from his boss. Looks like that is in Frodsham ? He was the MP for the Northwich area until the boundary changes came into force at the last election. step forward Andy Burnham |
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Post by Northy on Oct 28, 2024 15:47:38 GMT
Looks like that is in Frodsham ? He was the MP for the Northwich area until the boundary changes came into force at the last election. step forward Andy Burnham That would be a step down for him though? |
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2024 15:51:17 GMT
step forward Andy Burnham That would be a step down for him though? not if he has aspirations i quite like andy burnham seems a decent sort |
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Post by Ariel Manto on Oct 28, 2024 16:18:10 GMT
Utter bullshit. To put no fine a point on things. Labour's plan to raise the bus fare cap from £2 to £3 has sparked concerns, but it's not specifically targeted at former coal mining areas in northern England at all. The increase is part of a broader budget strategy to manage public finances and maintain essential services. While the fare hike will impact all regions, including former coal mining areas, it's not a direct attack on these communities. Former coal mining areas do face unique challenges, such as higher unemployment and social disadvantage. Ensuring affordable and reliable public transport is crucial for these communities, and Labour has emphasised the importance of maintaining a fare cap to support rural and disadvantaged areas. It affects Red Wall constituencies directly, of course it does. The most impoverished usually hit the hardest by rises like this. So no, bullshit it 'aint, mate, It is utter bullshit. There is no direct attack on former coal mining areas which your post said. |
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Post by ian57 on Oct 28, 2024 16:31:22 GMT
The red wall constituencies are being punished for brexit in 2016 and then for voting Tory in 2019.
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Post by salopstick on Oct 28, 2024 16:34:07 GMT
The red wall constituencies are being punished for brexit in 2016 and then for voting Tory in 2019. i doubt that to be the case but the optics are there |
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Oct 28, 2024 16:35:24 GMT
It affects Red Wall constituencies directly, of course it does. The most impoverished usually hit the hardest by rises like this. So no, bullshit it 'aint, mate, It is utter bullshit. There is no direct attack on former coal mining areas which your post said. Good lord....you are an eternal pedant, you are. And usually wrong as well. |
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Oct 28, 2024 16:35:56 GMT
I’m not a massive fan of the man myself, but it’s always worth challenging the nonsense and hyperbole from those on either side - far right and loony left. As I have discovered, if you ever praise anything Starmer does, you’re a fanboy for life according to various people on here who see everything as black and white and without nuance. Indeed, welcome to my world🤣 |
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Post by oggyoggy on Oct 28, 2024 17:30:14 GMT
The red wall constituencies are being punished for brexit in 2016 and then for voting Tory in 2019. To be fair, those are two monumental fuck ups! |
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Post by mickeythemaestro on Oct 28, 2024 18:02:11 GMT
The red wall constituencies are being punished for brexit in 2016 and then for voting Tory in 2019. To be fair, those are two monumental fuck ups! We'd probably still be locked down if labour had won the 2019 election. For that alone I'm glad they didn't win. |
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