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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2024 18:20:23 GMT
And which particular polical group are systematically orchestrating street violence around the country? The Greens? The Lib Dems? The far left? No the far right with an explictly racist agenda. You are right politically motivated violence shouldn't be tolerated regardless of the political complexion of the perperpetrators. Fact is the current crop of perpetrators are on the far right. The people running around the country with knives and machetes are not far right are they? Or do you believe that they are? Are the pro Palestinian marches far right? You can't just say all the problems in the country are far right. It doesn't add up does it. I’ll tell you what it is. It’s a load of made up bollocks stoking the fire of division. It’s what the lefties want, anarchy in the U.K. just as it’s been for decades. They want a totally lawless country and at the moment they’re winning. I fear this weekend will be carnage in this country but nothing compared to what will happen in the not to distant future
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Post by thehartshillbadger on Aug 2, 2024 18:21:05 GMT
So far looks like he’s going to be shit. But I’ll wait a while. It’s like writing a new signing off after 15 minutes of his debut He has had a start that noone could have possibly foreseen. I didn't want him in but I'm willing to give him a chance to see how he will deal with it all. I wish him the best of luck because it is not a job I would personally want. In a nutshell
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 2, 2024 18:25:34 GMT
The people running around the country with knives and machetes are not far right are they? Or do you believe that they are? Are the pro Palestinian marches far right? You can't just say all the problems in the country are far right. It doesn't add up does it. I’ll tell you what it is. It’s a load of made up bollocks stoking the fire of division. It’s what the lefties want, anarchy in the U.K. just as it’s been for decades. They want a totally lawless country and at the moment they’re winning. I fear this weekend will be carnage in this country but nothing compared to what will happen in the not to distant future I agree mate. Genuine concerns are shut down now with the racist tag nowadays and I genuinely do not know where we go as a nation if these concerns are not discussed. There are racists out there who jump on the bandwagon but they are a minority in my opinion. People are scared to speak out now because they are tarred with that brush by the left. I can't get my head around that because in Nazi Germany people were afraid to speak out against things that concerned them, the exact regime and politics that the left claim to dispise.
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Post by wannabee on Aug 2, 2024 18:34:33 GMT
A good summary on current state of affairs: Precisely what I've been saying to Mr Coke Austerity with Interest Rates at Historically Low Rates is Bonkers and results in Stagnation, he thinks UK have done well and we're in the shit because of EU At least Labour intent is to increase Government Investment and stimulate Private Investment albeit at much higher Interest Rates thanks to Liz Truss.
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Post by desman2 on Aug 2, 2024 18:44:57 GMT
And which particular polical group are systematically orchestrating street violence around the country? The Greens? The Lib Dems? The far left? No the far right with an explictly racist agenda. You are right politically motivated violence shouldn't be tolerated regardless of the political complexion of the perperpetrators. Fact is the current crop of perpetrators are on the far right. The people running around the country with knives and machetes are not far right are they? Or do you believe that they are? Are the pro Palestinian marches far right? You can't just say all the problems in the country are far right. It doesn't add up does it. Unfortunately you can if your brain is addled with your own ideology. People create scapegoats to deflect from their own mistakes. They use these buzz words and target individuals when the problems are created by those in power. The current situation is down to both Labour and Tory governments and them alone. Simply blaming someone like Farage or Robinson is ridiculous. They are the get out clause and that's all. Current events go much further than anything they might or might not say. It goes with a history of Government policy and nothing else. I follow no ideology nor have any leanings one way or the other. I certainly don't jump on bandwagons slagging off individuals who have their own opinions. Just because their opinion doesn't match with yours ( meaning people in general ) doesn't automatically mean their opinion is wrong. Once we go down the route of using power to silence anyone without listening at all then we will be well and truly fucked in the long run.
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Post by middleoftheboothen on Aug 2, 2024 18:56:37 GMT
The people running around the country with knives and machetes are not far right are they? Or do you believe that they are? Are the pro Palestinian marches far right? You can't just say all the problems in the country are far right. It doesn't add up does it. Unfortunately you can if your brain is addled with your own ideology. People create scapegoats to deflect from their own mistakes. They use these buzz words and target individuals when the problems are created by those in power. The current situation is down to both Labour and Tory governments and them alone. Simply blaming someone like Farage or Robinson is ridiculous. They are the get out clause and that's all. Current events go much further than anything they might or might not say. It goes with a history of Government policy and nothing else. I follow no ideology nor have any leanings one way or the other. I certainly don't jump on bandwagons slagging off individuals who have their own opinions. Just because their opinion doesn't match with yours ( meaning people in general ) doesn't automatically mean their opinion is wrong. Once we go down the route of using power to silence anyone without listening at all then we will be well and truly fucked in the long run. Completely agree mate. Where do we go from here? That is what worries me. I just want my children to grow up knowing that they will be safe from any harm and I'm sure that is the same as most people want.
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Post by Paul Spencer on Aug 3, 2024 1:04:28 GMT
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Post by henry on Aug 3, 2024 8:13:47 GMT
A least Morris and Mabel will be able to keep their heating on throughout winter...oh hang on... If morris and Mabel were living in a £1.5m house there would be no reason why they couldn’t keep their heating on… Seriously though council tax is a massively outdated system that only benefits the rich, it’s a very quick way of people in crazy expensive houses paying their fair share Totally agree it benefits the rich. Are there enough rich people with big houses in S-o-T to off set the lower end ?
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Post by wagsastokie on Aug 3, 2024 9:09:31 GMT
The fairest system is the poll tax Individuals paying for the services they use A single person living in a five bedroom house will use a fifth of the local services than five living in a three bedroom house
It should have nothing to do with property values or bank balances
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Post by adri2008 on Aug 3, 2024 9:47:52 GMT
The fairest system is the poll tax Individuals paying for the services they use A single person living in a five bedroom house will use a fifth of the local services than five living in a three bedroom house It should have nothing to do with property values or bank balances This makes total sense to me but people don't actually want fair though do they else we'd all be paying the same rate of income tax etc. across the board. Personally I'd tax everything at the same rate whether it was income, dividends, capital gains etc. Just simpifly the entire system.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 3, 2024 10:14:00 GMT
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 3, 2024 10:21:05 GMT
So far looks like he’s going to be shit. But I’ll wait a while. It’s like writing a new signing off after 15 minutes of his debut He's Gerry McMahon.
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Post by mrcoke on Aug 3, 2024 13:32:12 GMT
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Post by The Drunken Communist on Aug 3, 2024 18:52:38 GMT
As good a time as any I suppose...
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Post by desman2 on Aug 3, 2024 19:49:13 GMT
As good a time as any I suppose... Don't come back
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Post by iancransonsknees on Aug 3, 2024 21:00:07 GMT
He's united the Irish unionists and republicans in 4 weeks, he'll be claiming that as a success at least.
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Post by Deleted on Aug 4, 2024 6:23:40 GMT
As good a time as any I suppose... He's got to cancel that surely?
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Post by prestwichpotter on Aug 4, 2024 7:24:59 GMT
As good a time as any I suppose... He's got to cancel that surely? Too late to get his deposit back unfortunately.......
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 4, 2024 8:37:09 GMT
Remember a few weeks ago when people voted Starmer because they thought he'd improve the country 😂
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Post by metalhead on Aug 4, 2024 8:41:35 GMT
I don't think the current situation can be blamed on Starmer.
He's not having a great time though, admittedly.
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Post by pmjh on Aug 4, 2024 9:20:52 GMT
Remember a few weeks ago when people voted Starmer because they thought he'd improve the country 😂 So you think the current problems are down to a government of a few weeks, not the incompetent tossers of 14 years. Priceless!
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Post by scfcbiancorossi on Aug 4, 2024 9:26:37 GMT
I don't think the current situation can be blamed on Starmer. He's not having a great time though, admittedly. If it was the World Cup he's struggling to even qualify for the tournament after defeats to Liechtenstein and Luxembourg. He's already lost the supporters and his own dressing room. He's going to be a complete disaster isn't he.
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Post by ian57 on Aug 4, 2024 9:32:11 GMT
He’s not a very good politician and he’s definitely not a leader and he has also alienated a large percentage of the population.
I would rathe have rishi back and he wasn’t much better.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Aug 4, 2024 9:55:24 GMT
As good a time as any I suppose... He's got to cancel that surely? If he doesnt hes not fit for office he needs to make a national tv address early this week
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Post by sticky on Aug 4, 2024 10:48:55 GMT
I’ve been away so not seen a great deal of the news.. where is he? What’s he being saying and doing? Boris was a useless fucker and got slammed for his inaction of the pandemic (rightly so) this seems like starmers pandemic, he needs to do and say the right things Quick honeymoon for the pair of them tbf
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Post by werrington on Aug 4, 2024 10:52:19 GMT
I’ve been away so not seen a great deal of the news.. where is he? What’s he being saying and doing? Boris was a useless fucker and got slammed for his inaction of the pandemic (rightly so) this seems like starmers pandemic, he needs to do and say the right things Quick honeymoon for the pair of them tbf I said exactly this yesterday talking to friends
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Post by adri2008 on Aug 4, 2024 10:54:14 GMT
I’ve been away so not seen a great deal of the news.. where is he? What’s he being saying and doing? Boris was a useless fucker and got slammed for his inaction of the pandemic (rightly so) this seems like starmers pandemic, he needs to do and say the right things Quick honeymoon for the pair of them tbf This the issue with the 'win by default' strategy. No good will from the electorate.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Aug 4, 2024 10:54:45 GMT
I’ve been away so not seen a great deal of the news.. where is he? What’s he being saying and doing? Boris was a useless fucker and got slammed for his inaction of the pandemic (rightly so) this seems like starmers pandemic, he needs to do and say the right things Quick honeymoon for the pair of them tbf If it’s anything like his presser the other day he’s better off not speaking in my opinion
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Post by sticky on Aug 4, 2024 11:05:47 GMT
I’ve been away so not seen a great deal of the news.. where is he? What’s he being saying and doing? Boris was a useless fucker and got slammed for his inaction of the pandemic (rightly so) this seems like starmers pandemic, he needs to do and say the right things Quick honeymoon for the pair of them tbf If it’s anything like his presser the other day he’s better off not speaking in my opinion Il try find it. Just comes across a bit weak and wishy washy when ever I hear him talk. Saying that what the hell would you say🤷🏼♂️
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Post by ian57 on Aug 4, 2024 11:12:34 GMT
He's got to cancel that surely? If he doesnt hes not fit for office he needs to make a national tv address early this week he’s not fit for office in any capacity imo after his performance last week.
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