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Post by chad on Jul 29, 2024 16:29:20 GMT
A estimated 800 thousand households who may be eligible for pension credit don’t claim it They will now loose their heating allowance Not only are labour happy to keep children in starvation They now want to pensioners to freeze to death Whilst in the meantime giving their paymasters the public services unions a inflation busting pay rise Never has it been truer be careful who you vote for Pensioners won't go out flipping police cars or setting fire to buses. Easy money. You just watch me 😊
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Post by superjw on Jul 29, 2024 16:42:28 GMT
Pay the well paid doctors over the odds and screw the pensioners Well who saw that coming. Rail workers will be on strike next after their 20% This opens the door to a lot of the public sector to start striking for their share If a (22.3%) pay rise was on the cards, get the pickets out…
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Post by xchpotter on Jul 29, 2024 16:54:54 GMT
They knew what they were voting for, stop moaning.
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Post by stokeson on Jul 29, 2024 17:36:21 GMT
All benefits should be means tested. I remeber well that film director tosser ? Say he got a very nice bottle of wine with his WFA....Theres plenty of super rich pensioners and the vunerable will be protected.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 29, 2024 17:40:56 GMT
All benefits should be means tested. I remeber well that film director tosser ? Say he got a very nice bottle of wine with his WFA....Theres plenty of super rich pensioners and the vunerable will be protected. Means testing costs a fortune.......
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Post by stokeson on Jul 29, 2024 17:46:17 GMT
All benefits should be means tested. I remeber well that film director tosser ? Say he got a very nice bottle of wine with his WFA....Theres plenty of super rich pensioners and the vunerable will be protected. Means testing costs a fortune....... Yes I know its a massive problem if it costs more than it saves but im talking about in principal.
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Post by lawrieleslie on Jul 29, 2024 17:53:41 GMT
[quote author=" stokeson" source="/post/8200550[/b]/thread" timestamp="1722274581"]All benefits should be means tested. I remeber well that film director tosser ? Say he got a very nice bottle of wine with his WFA....Theres plenty of super rich pensioners and the vulnerable will be protected.[/quote] The 800,000, 1 in 3, households who are entitled to Pension Credit but don’t know it’s available will not. In addition to announce this just 3 months before it’s due to be paid is nothing short of criminal. Many pensioners will have taken WFA into account when budgeting annual costs for heating. Also wonder what Liz Kendall's part is in this or has she been swept aside by Reeves.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 17:58:17 GMT
2 cheeks of the same arse. Absolutely disgusting. I deal with an ex-Army veteran when I go out into Manchester volunteering (yeah yeah virtue signalling wanker etc etc), one of the brightest most switched on blokes I've ever met. He also happens to be an alcoholic with a horrific story that's got him to where he is in life but it's devastating to see someone who could be capable of doing whatever he wanted to suffer the way he does. And whilst it's not directly related to the Starmer government I have to say that the situation on the streets in Manchester is getting worse, when Burnham first implemented his strategy of eradicating rough sleeping within 3 years there was a real positive sign that that could happen, the amount of people we're dealing with now I would suggest that is definitely not the case...... It’s definitely getting worse in the area I work in. I like the idea of what the Finns do and that’s essentially give homeless people a flat with the aim of turning their life around from the ground up. I’m guessing we just don’t have the money to do this here? As you’re clearly well involved, what would your solution be?
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Post by plug on Jul 29, 2024 18:03:48 GMT
I deal with an ex-Army veteran when I go out into Manchester volunteering (yeah yeah virtue signalling wanker etc etc), one of the brightest most switched on blokes I've ever met. He also happens to be an alcoholic with a horrific story that's got him to where he is in life but it's devastating to see someone who could be capable of doing whatever he wanted to suffer the way he does. And whilst it's not directly related to the Starmer government I have to say that the situation on the streets in Manchester is getting worse, when Burnham first implemented his strategy of eradicating rough sleeping within 3 years there was a real positive sign that that could happen, the amount of people we're dealing with now I would suggest that is definitely not the case...... It’s definitely getting worse in the area I work in. I like the idea of what the Finns do and that’s essentially give homeless people a flat with the aim of turning their life around from the ground up. I’m guessing we just don’t have the money to do this here? As you’re clearly well involved, what would your solution be? Over here, you'd have an epidemic of people getting themselves evicted so they could get this 'free apartment'.
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 18:05:26 GMT
It’s definitely getting worse in the area I work in. I like the idea of what the Finns do and that’s essentially give homeless people a flat with the aim of turning their life around from the ground up. I’m guessing we just don’t have the money to do this here? As you’re clearly well involved, what would your solution be? Over here, you'd have an epidemic of people getting themselves evicted so they could get this 'free apartment'. Attitudes like this are part of the problem for sure.
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Post by ravey123 on Jul 29, 2024 18:22:35 GMT
To be means tested as all discretionary benefits should be I certainly don't need it i read the new rules if you paid stamp all your life and just recieve state pension you wont be getting it. if you have not paid stamp and just recieve pension credits you will get it Work all your life, pay your taxes then get shafted for more when you retire. This country is a disgrace
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Post by henry on Jul 29, 2024 19:02:17 GMT
i read the new rules if you paid stamp all your life and just recieve state pension you wont be getting it. if you have not paid stamp and just recieve pension credits you will get it Work all your life, pay your taxes then get shafted for more when you retire. This country is a disgrace It's not a good advert for having a work place pension.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 29, 2024 19:18:06 GMT
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Post by gawa on Jul 29, 2024 19:23:59 GMT
I just hope people are sensible enough to see that this Labour is anything but left wing. Not even centre left.
So if the next 5 years are shit, it doesn't mean further right is the answer even if our media want to continue pretending labour are left wing. They aren't.
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Post by prestwichpotter on Jul 29, 2024 20:43:04 GMT
I deal with an ex-Army veteran when I go out into Manchester volunteering (yeah yeah virtue signalling wanker etc etc), one of the brightest most switched on blokes I've ever met. He also happens to be an alcoholic with a horrific story that's got him to where he is in life but it's devastating to see someone who could be capable of doing whatever he wanted to suffer the way he does. And whilst it's not directly related to the Starmer government I have to say that the situation on the streets in Manchester is getting worse, when Burnham first implemented his strategy of eradicating rough sleeping within 3 years there was a real positive sign that that could happen, the amount of people we're dealing with now I would suggest that is definitely not the case...... It’s definitely getting worse in the area I work in. I like the idea of what the Finns do and that’s essentially give homeless people a flat with the aim of turning their life around from the ground up. I’m guessing we just don’t have the money to do this here? As you’re clearly well involved, what would your solution be? Finland get most of these types of policy right, yes some would argue it’s not scaleable but we could pilot it and see how it goes. The cost of short term accommodation, crisis centres, crime and antisocial behaviour, mental health departments, the NHS as whole makes it a no brainier really. Even if we went down the Macari Foundation route of pods and worked our way up to an apartment/small house it would be worth a shot. The dehumanisation of people on the streets is the worst thing of all from what I’m constantly told, 2 mins chatting to someone can be the lift that individual needs to get them through another dangerous, shitty day. Something has to change…….
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Post by bayernoatcake on Jul 29, 2024 20:55:55 GMT
It’s definitely getting worse in the area I work in. I like the idea of what the Finns do and that’s essentially give homeless people a flat with the aim of turning their life around from the ground up. I’m guessing we just don’t have the money to do this here? As you’re clearly well involved, what would your solution be? Finland get most of these types of policy right, yes some would argue it’s not scaleable but we could pilot it and see how it goes. The cost of short term accommodation, crisis centres, crime and antisocial behaviour, mental health departments, the NHS as whole makes it a no brainier really. Even if we went down the Macari Foundation route of pods and worked our way up to an apartment/small house it would be worth a shot. The dehumanisation of people on the streets is the worst thing of all from what I’m constantly told, 2 mins chatting to someone can be the lift that individual needs to get them through another dangerous, shitty day. Something has to change……. Yeah it definitely has. There needs something to be done that is there to get them out of the cycle and to help them. No one (government level) seems to want to do anything meaningful though to sort it? I don’t get it. It’d be interesting to see how many that go into the Macari centre and are given an address and that little bit of a leg up go on and sort their lives out. I really hope it’s a good percentage.
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Post by benjaminbiscuit on Jul 29, 2024 22:01:19 GMT
22% doctors increase 2 million pensioners out if fuel benefit 5% fir teachers and prison officers etc Can't see interstellar rates coming down while that flows through and infra structure projects cancelled which effects the much talked about budget Going to be a bloodbath for some in the Oct budget
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Post by henry on Jul 30, 2024 6:52:44 GMT
So with all the added benefits that come with getting pension credits, the government are actually taking away the money from those worse off.
Well done everyone who voted Labour, you did a good job.
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Post by superjw on Jul 30, 2024 7:44:48 GMT
So with all the added benefits that come with getting pension credits, the government are actually taking away the money from those worse off. Well done everyone who voted Labour, you did a good job. Yep, people get what they voted for. In people’s blind desperation to oust the conservatives, they haven’t actually realised that the reality can and possibly will be much worse.
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 8:26:44 GMT
This aged well🤔although we all regret things we say sometimes 😶
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Post by henry on Jul 30, 2024 8:40:09 GMT
They’ve only been in power 3 weeks and already rewarding the work shy. Vermin
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Post by phileetin on Jul 30, 2024 9:15:23 GMT
and they removed the proposed cap of £86000 on social care costs as well .
pensioners truly shafted .
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Post by noustie on Jul 30, 2024 9:18:57 GMT
Finland get most of these types of policy right, yes some would argue it’s not scaleable but we could pilot it and see how it goes. The cost of short term accommodation, crisis centres, crime and antisocial behaviour, mental health departments, the NHS as whole makes it a no brainier really. Even if we went down the Macari Foundation route of pods and worked our way up to an apartment/small house it would be worth a shot. The dehumanisation of people on the streets is the worst thing of all from what I’m constantly told, 2 mins chatting to someone can be the lift that individual needs to get them through another dangerous, shitty day. Something has to change……. Yeah it definitely has. There needs something to be done that is there to get them out of the cycle and to help them. No one (government level) seems to want to do anything meaningful though to sort it? I don’t get it. It’d be interesting to see how many that go into the Macari centre and are given an address and that little bit of a leg up go on and sort their lives out. I really hope it’s a good percentage. I reckon the main driver is there'll be folk getting rich off the back of it - shit systems, charging a fortune and nowt changes so just rinse repeat. In comparison probably not a lot of money in building simple cheap housing get them back on their feet. Remember seeing a program on the fella was homeless for a time and founded the Big Issue - he was in it for the money.
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Post by noustie on Jul 30, 2024 9:19:53 GMT
and they removed the proposed cap of £86000 on social care costs as well . pensioners truly shafted . Reeves bullshit too that Hunt was lying - SNP called out Labour's funding blackhole in the election campaign and got 'fake news'.
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Post by henry on Jul 30, 2024 9:30:01 GMT
Going to be a lot of buyers remorse with this fucking lot.
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Post by Deleted on Jul 30, 2024 9:36:58 GMT
It’s definitely getting worse in the area I work in. I like the idea of what the Finns do and that’s essentially give homeless people a flat with the aim of turning their life around from the ground up. I’m guessing we just don’t have the money to do this here? As you’re clearly well involved, what would your solution be? Finland get most of these types of policy right, yes some would argue it’s not scaleable but we could pilot it and see how it goes. The cost of short term accommodation, crisis centres, crime and antisocial behaviour, mental health departments, the NHS as whole makes it a no brainier really. Even if we went down the Macari Foundation route of pods and worked our way up to an apartment/small house it would be worth a shot. The dehumanisation of people on the streets is the worst thing of all from what I’m constantly told, 2 mins chatting to someone can be the lift that individual needs to get them through another dangerous, shitty day. Something has to change……. They do it in Houston as well. It’s been very effective, both in tackling the level of homelessness and in reducing overall cost and crime.
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Post by Huddysleftfoot on Jul 30, 2024 10:15:29 GMT
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Post by crouchpotato1 on Jul 30, 2024 10:17:42 GMT
and they removed the proposed cap of £86000 on social care costs as well . pensioners truly shafted . Was this announced yesterday mate?
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Post by ian57 on Jul 30, 2024 10:21:12 GMT
This labour government absolutely detests the white working class of this country.
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Post by salopstick on Jul 30, 2024 10:33:31 GMT
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